Jesus Failed

[spidergoat]

Not at all. He can forgive whoever he wants. You asked about how I felt.

Congratulations, that's secular morality.

 

[billvon]

Congratulations, that's secular morality.

Well, not quite. That's secular emotional response i.e. "how I feel." The moral decisions I make - that's morality.

 

[spidergoat]

Morality is the result of emotions - guilt and empathy.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Don't know about that. Then again, I was raised in a church where social work was more important than converting people. So my interpretation of what a Christian does may be a little skewed. (i.e - Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? - James 2:15-16)

Ah, a cafeteria Christian.

 

[Michael 345]

Ah, a cafeteria Christian.

Fill their belly, they will fill the church

 

[cluelusshusbund]

Wrong. All the people that say they are Christians are Christians. It's just that Christianity is psychological enabling mechanism that allows people to do what they want and still feel like their guilt is forgiven.

Im a true Christan so i dont sin... i just do what i want which dont include sinnin.!!!

In Concluson:::

I have no guilt to be forgivin.!!!

 

[Michael 345]

Im a true Christan so i dont sin... i just do what i want which dont include sinnin.!!!

In Concluson:::

I have no guilt to be forgivin.!!!

So you would be the chosen one to throw the first stone???

 

[cluelusshusbund]

So you would be the chosen one to throw the first stone???

No... not sinnin makes me a target to be stoned/persecuted... much like Jesus bein nailed to a bord.!!!

 

[Michael 345]

No... not sinnin makes me a target to be stoned/persecuted... much like Jesus bein nailed to a bord.!!!

Wasn't it jc who said - let he who is without sin cast the first stone???

 

[davewhite04]

Wrong. All the people that say they are Christians are Christians. It's just that Christianity is psychological enabling mechanism that allows people to do what they want and still feel like their guilt is forgiven.

Do you actually think Christians actively pursue wrongdoing? They are just human like you. .Every Christian I know acknowledge they aren't perfect, and try that bit extra to love thy neighbour. Repentance is a core value in Christianity, unless you can't repent from sin you are using the Lord's name in vain.

 

[davewhite04]

Wasn't it jc who said - let he who is without sin cast the first stone???

Yep, and I say, if it was an eye for an eye we'd all be blind.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Fill their belly, they will fill the church

That's not what it means. Cafeteria Christians pick and chose, taking only the parts they like from the Bible and ignoring the rest.

 

[Michael 345]

That's not what it means. Cafeteria Christians pick and chose, taking only the parts they like from the Bible and ignoring the rest.

OK I miss read yours but I agree and even though mine not same you it does apply

 

[Michael 345]

Yep, and I say, if it was an eye for an eye we'd all be blind.

Has that not been changed to "Do not seek personal vengeance but take it to a court (legal redress) for resolution?

 

[spidergoat]

Do you actually think Christians actively pursue wrongdoing? They are just human like you. .Every Christian I know acknowledge they aren't perfect, and try that bit extra to love thy neighbour. Repentance is a core value in Christianity, unless you can't repent from sin you are using the Lord's name in vain.

What's the purpose of repentance?

 

[davewhite04]

What's the purpose of repentance?

If a murderer(normally convicted) turns to Jesus then he ideally will not murder again once he's released, same for any crime. It's to change your ways so they are more in line with love thy neighbour as yourself, and love thy G-d with all your heart(which is basically to keep the 10 commandments).

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I thought it was so criminals would look better when they went before the parole boards.

 

[davewhite04]

Morality is the result of emotions - guilt and empathy.

How do you know?

 

[spidergoat]

How do you know?

Because if you don't have empathy for another person, you won't act morally towards them.

 

[davewhite04]

Because if you don't have empathy for another person, you won't act morally towards them.

What is moral and immoral?