Gay Churches Decline / Fundamental Churches Grow

[Provita]

Aint it funny? Secular nations have higher miral standards, less crime rates, and pretty much no wars, than non-secular nations... and yet them Athiests are "morally-bankrupt" ... heh

 

[Lawdog]

Aint it funny? Secular nations have higher miral standards, less crime rates, and pretty much no wars, than non-secular nations... and yet them Athiests are "morally-bankrupt" ... heh

Thats garbage. They have become experts at Sin. Look at Holland. Do you think they are happy?

So why dont you tell me why you are no longer what you said?

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We do not deny their existance, but we deny their omnipotence, for they are devils.

9- You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt

We feel sorry when the sick evolutionists claim that no God participated in their creation. We do not wish them to dehumanize themselves further.

8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Trinity god

We confess that there is but One God, three persons. This is not polytheism.

7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -- including women, children, and trees!

Thats right, because Islam is not a revealed religion and they have no right to slaughter people. God however has aright to do whatever he wants with his creation.

6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

We do not laugh at their beliefs, but we understand that certain truth have come down to them from our primordial religion.

5- You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the scientifically established age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations old.

We do not believe that our anscetors were less capable than us in determining the progression of time. In fact they are more reliable than modern evolutionists.

4- You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".

We suspect that a huge portion of souls will go to Hell, but no one can say for sure.

3- While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove Christianity.

The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways.

2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

Prayer always works, but often not in the way we expect.

1- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a Christian

Knowledge of the Faith is not representable by mere historic facts and figures. Ignorant Christians are leap years beyond your "scientific" and claimed understanding of things.

 

[thedevilsreject]

Thats garbage. They have become experts at Sin. Look at Holland. Do you think they are happy?

So why dont you tell me why you are no longer what you said?

how do you know if they are happy or not

 

[Oli]

Look at Holland. Do you think they are happy?

Yes. I've been, and they're generally happy and friendly.

 

[Lawdog]

how do you know if they are happy or not

If they were truly happy, would they need to sustain a vice-ridden society?

 

[(Q)]

If they were truly happy, would they need to sustain a vice-ridden society?

Would that be the atheist vice-ridden society or the theist vice-ridden society you refer?

Isn't being a theist a vice in itself?

 

[Lawdog]

No one ever claimed that christians are free from sin.

A vice is a bad habit. Being a Christian can sometimes cause the bad habit of thinking of oneself as morally superior. Of course Christians are morally superior in doctrine. However it is wrong for them to think of themselves as having morally superior behavior.

They do have a morally superior doctrine. In their behavior they are sinners like everyone else.

It is a sin, for example, to look upon others as evil or badly behaived.
It is not a sin to look upon them as ignorant or distorted.

 

[imaplanck.]

Christians dont commit as much sin as atheists because they listen to the word of god. It's OK to sin but not OK if you dont repent them to god.

 

[Lawdog]

Its never ok to sin.

The sins we commit are more serious, more deserving of punishment.

Actually Christians commit less number of sins, but will suffer much greter pains than an atheist would for punishment of unrepentance.

 

[imaplanck.]

Its never ok to sin.

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I know but god forgives you if you repent.

 

[spidergoat]

The existence and success of the Vatican contradicts the whole premise of this thread.

 

[Lawdog]

I know but god forgives you if you repent.

But the problem there is the sin of presumption. Christ told the prostitute "go, and sin no more"

We cannot presume on God's mercy.

If you sin and die right afterwards, which is often the case, you could go to Hell for not having repented before death!

 

[Lawdog]

The existence and success of the Vatican contradicts the whole premise of this thread.

why?

 

[Provita]

lawdog, if someone rapes your daughter repeatidly and then kills her, and then is truley sorry, and asks God's forgiveness, you honestly believe he will go to heaven (granted he confessed all other, minor, sins)

 

[(Q)]

Christians dont commit as much sin as atheists because they listen to the word of god. It's OK to sin but not OK if you dont repent them to god.

Atheists never commit sins. How can they commit something which has no meaning for them?

 

[(Q)]

I know but god forgives you if you repent.

Not a very smart system, considering theists can go and do whatever they want and simply repent.

How many sins can a theist commit and repent? Limitless?

 

[(Q)]

It's OK to sin but not OK if you dont repent them to god.

It's OK to kill and repent?

 

[Woody]

Q said:

How many sins can a theist commit and repent? Limitless?

seventy times seven

 

[imaplanck.]

It's OK to kill and repent?

Yes it's OK to kill for god, especially infidels like you!

 

[spidergoat]

why?

Why? They are a bunch of men dressed up in finery, served by young boys in the most lavish, gold-encrusted and fabulous palaces in Italy... The Catholic Church is full of repressed homosexuals. They are going broke paying off lawsuits from the boys they molested.