Why Priest Can't Marry?

If I might ask... why are you so keyed up on this issue? I mean, who the hell cares really? So if you want to be married then don't be a priest... fill some other role or subscribe to a different churc

Lady is one of those fundaMENTALists who think that the RCC is the Whore of Revalations.

That's why.
 
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Originally posted by Lady
whatsupyall
**I call my biological father Dad, however, calling priest father,
imagine how confusing that is to a young child?mad: And enforcing this tradition on the babes as well. [/B]

LOL, YOU CALL HIM DAD, BUT MANY OTHERS CALL THEIR FATHER "FATHER". SO NOW ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT EVERYONE WHO DONT USE THE WORD "DAD" TO CALL HIS FATHER IS EVIL? LOL, ARE YOU OK? FOR NOW ON, I SHOULD NEVER CALL MY "FATHER" FATHER BUT CALL HIM "HEY DUDE", OR "HELLO DADDY". YOU ARE ALMOST JACKED UP IN THE HEAD (NOT YET FULLY, BUT I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR RESPONSE)...ONCE AGAIN, YOU TAKE THE BIBLE TOO LITERALLY, AND PLEASE, DONT EVEN TELL ME EARTH IS ONLY 6,000 YEARS OLD OK?



Originally posted by Lady

** Lets not confuse respect with authority
.[/B]

"FULL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME BY THE FATHER BOTH IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, AS THE FATHER HAS SENT ME SO I SEND YOU" ONCE AGAIN JESUS HANDED HIS AUTHORITY OVER TO THE APOSTLES.. CAN YOU READ THAT??? THT IS THE 2ND TIME I POSTED IT...




Originally posted by Lady

** [Reread William Branham article

LOL, READ ABOUT THE R.C.C. BEING THE WHORE OF BABYLON? IF YOU CALL THE CHURCH THAT IS ANTI CONDOMS, ANTI CONTRACEPTION, ANTI-PORN, ANTI-ABORTION, IF U CALL THAT "MOTHER OF HARLOTS", THEN WHAT DO YOU CALL THE PROTESTANT CHURCH "STRIPPERS FOR CHRIST"? OR "GAY CHURCH FOR CHRIST"? OR WHAT ABOUT DAVID KARESH, IN TEXAS, THE WHACKO CULT, WHO THINKS HE SERVED JESUS CHRIST, THAT IS THE RESULT OF PROTESTING AGAINST THE TRUTH, YOUR ALL DIVIDED, NOT ONE OF YOU LISTENS TO THE OTHER BECAUSE U DONT ACCEPT AUTHORITY OF JESUS CHRIST, YOU DONT LISTEN TO JESUS, JESUS HANDED HIS AUTHORITY TO THE APOSTLES, FROM THERE TO THE R.C.C, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED, THERES A "INCEST FOR CHRIST" OR POLYGAMIST FOR CHRIST, THERES EVEN THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD, YOU YOURSELF CAN BUILD A CHURCH IN YOUR GARAGE, AND CALL IT "THE CHURCH OF LADY MINISTRY" AND THEN ADD UP YOUR OWN STYLE BY WEARING THONGS EVERY SUNDAY. NOW ANYONE CAN MAKE THEIR OWN CHURCH..





Originally posted by Lady

**Mother of Harlots
**Rationalize...... hmm.. why can't priest marry again?
** Don't thank me.B]Thank the R.C.C for allowing confusion in its faith.


** So whats the point of purgatory or Hell? [/B]

I DONT WANT TO ANSWER ABOUT "WHY CANT PEOPLE WHO CHOSE NOT TO MARRY MARRY? WHY CANT THEY JUST MARRY EVEN IF THEY DONT WANT TO MARRY AND MADE A VOW NOT TO MARRY"", LADY I DONT WANT TO ANSWER THAT ANYMORE..

THE CHURCH ALLOWED CONFUSION? IT DOESNT ALLOW IT, BUT IT CANNOT STOP IGNORANT PEEPS FROM TRASH TALKING AND LYING..
ABOUT PURGATORY AND PRAYING FOR THE DEAD, READ THE BOOK OF "MACCABEES". GOD SAID "IT IS GOOD AND WHOLESOME TO PRAY FOR THE DEAD", READ FOR YOURSELF TO FIND OUT MORE. THATS WHY PPROTESTANTS DONT BELIEVE IN PURGATORY AND PRAYING FOR THE DEAD, BECAUSE YOUR BIBLE IS LACKING AND EMPTY, MARTIN LUTHER TOOK OUT WHAT ORIGINALLY BELONGS THERE TO FIT HIS DESCRIPTION OF THE "DREAM CHURCH", A CHURCH WHERE HE CAN BE A PERVERT AND NOONE WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

AGAIN, PRIEST AND BISHOPS AND POPES MAAKE MISTAKES, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOUR BRAIN...
 
Originally posted by Lady
So if you understand Catholicism please inform me why priest can't marry?

A man becomes more, cognizant and powerfull, when he does not waste his semen. He has total self-control.
Experienced yogis can make their semen travel up into their brain which causes enlightenment, by way of "kundalini."
Semen is very powerful.

A priest is trained, preferably from a young age, proper celibacy, not to repress their senses, but to use them in the service of God. At a certain age, 25 i think, after he has undergone his training and is ready, he decides whether he wants to remain a celibate for the rest of his life, or become a family man, but only discharging his semen for the purpose of procreation.

The men who do not discharge their semen, due to self-control, are closer to God, as they do not have a trace of lust, in their hearts, and thus becomes the most potent teachers of spiritual life, he becomes renounced. This type of life is very rare and demands the highest intelligence.

This account is not from the RCC, it an account of the santana dharma, the eternal occupation of the soul, which comes under the system of "varnashram dharma" which categorises different types of roles for humans, to make a harmonious and God-conscious system. I suspect that the RCC regulations are taken from that.

Love

Jan Ardena.
 
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The men who do not discharge their semen, due to self-control, are closer to God, as they do not have a trace of lust, in their hearts, and thus becomes the most potent teachers of spiritual life, he becomes renounced. This type of life is very rare and demands the highest intelligence.


**Confusing and intresting, yet, marriage is blessed by God, if desired. It shouldn't cause one to move further from God.
:)
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: The doctrine of the Nicolaitanes

Originally posted by whatsupyall
LOL, YOU CALL HIM DAD, BUT MANY OTHERS CALL THEIR FATHER "FATHER". SO NOW ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT EVERYONE WHO DONT USE THE WORD "DAD" TO CALL HIS FATHER IS EVIL? LOL, ARE YOU OK? FOR NOW ON, I SHOULD NEVER CALL MY "FATHER" FATHER BUT CALL HIM "HEY DUDE", OR "HELLO DADDY". YOU ARE ALMOST JACKED UP IN THE HEAD (NOT YET FULLY, BUT I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR RESPONSE)...ONCE AGAIN, YOU TAKE THE BIBLE TOO LITERALLY, AND PLEASE, DONT EVEN TELL ME EARTH IS ONLY 6,000 YEARS OLD OK?



**Calling men Father in a religious aspect is forbidden according to our Bible or do I have a book the R.C.C doesn't have


"FULL AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ME BY THE FATHER BOTH IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, AS THE FATHER HAS SENT ME SO I SEND YOU" ONCE AGAIN JESUS HANDED HIS AUTHORITY OVER TO THE APOSTLES.. CAN YOU READ THAT??? THT IS THE 2ND TIME I POSTED IT...


**Not control over the people but authoriy over the word





OL, READ ABOUT THE R.C.C. BEING THE WHORE OF BABYLON? IF YOU CALL THE CHURCH THAT IS ANTI CONDOMS, ANTI CONTRACEPTION, ANTI-PORN, ANTI-ABORTION, IF U CALL THAT "MOTHER OF HARLOTS", THEN WHAT DO YOU CALL THE PROTESTANT CHURCH


*** Harlots of the WHORE

I DONT WANT TO ANSWER ABOUT "WHY CANT PEOPLE WHO CHOSE NOT TO MARRY MARRY? WHY CANT THEY JUST MARRY EVEN IF THEY DONT WANT TO MARRY AND MADE A VOW NOT TO MARRY"", LADY I DONT WANT TO ANSWER THAT ANYMORE..

**There is no logical answer on why priest can't marry

THATS WHY PPROTESTANTS DONT BELIEVE IN PURGATORY AND PRAYING FOR THE DEAD, BECAUSE YOUR BIBLE IS LACKING AND EMPTY, MARTIN LUTHER TOOK OUT WHAT ORIGINALLY BELONGS THERE TO FIT HIS DESCRIPTION OF THE "DREAM CHURCH", A CHURCH WHERE HE CAN BE A PERVERT AND NOONE WILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.


**Purgatory....... YEAH RIGHT.:D

AGAIN, PRIEST AND BISHOPS AND POPES MAAKE MISTAKES, JUST WANT TO REMIND YOUR BRAIN./QUOTE]

** That exactly why they should stop claiming THE ONE TRUE CHURCH
 
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Originally posted by Lady
**Confusing and intresting, yet, marriage is blessed by God, if desired. It shouldn't cause one to move further from God.
:)


It doesn't cause a householder to move further from God, but a celibate moves closer to God, because he has renounced the pleasures of this material world. A renounced celibate, sacrifices everything, including himself in this world, and relies absolutely on God. For this act, God has no choice but reciprocate in the same manner.

By sacrifice, i don't mean burning goats and sheep at some alter, but giving up everything and subsisting on whatever God supplies (food, water,).

Love

Jan Ardena.
 
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Originally posted by Jan Ardena
A man becomes more, cognizant and powerfull, when he does not waste his semen. He has total self-control.
Experienced yogis can make their semen travel up into their brain which causes enlightenment, by way of "kundalini."

Self-control is the root of all power. Practicing self-control has it merits and rewards.

However this bit about semen traveling into the brain smells like utter bullshit.
Do you have any scientific evidence what-so-ever?

~Raithere
 
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Originally posted by Lady
**Calling men Father in a religious aspect is forbidden according to our Bible or do I have a book the R.C.C doesn't have

JACOB CALLED ABRAHAM "FATHER ABRAHAM", SO IS JACOB THEN EVIL? ARE YOU SAYING HE IS NOT RELIGIOUS? IM SURE BILLY GRAHAMS'S SON CALLED HIS FATHER "FATHER BILL", IS HIS SON THEN EVIL AND NOT RELIGIOUS? IN FACT BY YOU CALLING YOUR DAD "DAD" MEANS "FATHER", IN OTHER LANGUAGEES IT IS CALLED "ABBA", IN FACT THE BIBLE IS TRANSLATED TO ENGLISH, THE ORIGINAL WORD WAS "ABBA", IF YOU TAKE THE BIBLE TOO LITERALLY, MAYBE U SHOULD THEN SAY "CALL NOONE ON EARTH "ABBA" FOR THERE IS ONLY ONE "ABBA", LOL...
LADY, I SUSPECT ALL YOUR LIFE YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED TO BE TAUGHT WE R THE "HARLOTS OF THE WHORE", THATS REALLY REALLY SAD, THAT IS LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISED AND TOLD GOD IS A MYTH ALL THEIR LIFE THATS WHY EVEN IF U GIVE THEM ALL THE EVIDENCE, THEY WONT LISTEN, BECAUSE THEY R CONIVNCE GOD IS A MYTH, THATS HOW THEY R BROUGHT OUT IN LIFE, AS U R BROUGHT OUT THINKING WE ARE THE ANTI-CHRIST OR THE "HARLOTS OF WHORE", U AND YUR PREACHER IS SAD....



Originally posted by Lady
**Not control over the people but authoriy over the word

WHOEVER SAYS R.C.C. TAKES AWAY THE FREEWILL OF MAN? U R LIKE THE ATHEIST "PREDETERMINATION" THINGY. THE CHURCH, YOU, OR EVEN GOD HIMSELF CONTROLS NOONE FOR WE ALL HAVE FREEWILL.
ONCE AGAIN JESUS HANDED HIS AUTHORITY OVER TO THE APOSTLES, WHICH ARE OF COURSE HUMANS, BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THE APOSTLES AND THE CHURCH TAKES AWAY YOUR FREEWILL....





Originally posted by Lady
*** Harlots of the WHORE

**There is no logical answer on why priest can't marry

ST. PETER WAS NEVER MARRIED, ST. PAUL WAS NEVER MARRIED, YOUR SO CALLED "PROPHET MARTIN LUTHER" NEVER GOT MARIED, SO THEN THEY ARE EVIL AND ARE DAMNED TO HELL?



Originally posted by Lady
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**Purgatory....... YEAH RIGHT.:D

BRAINWASHED ATHEIST= "GOD? YEAH RIGHT"....

Originally posted by Lady
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** That exactly why they should stop claiming THE ONE TRUE CHURCH

THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE CHURCH, WHERE THE PERFECTION OF MORALITY, VIRTUES, AND RIGHT CIVILIZED WAY OF LIFE IS TAUGHT, THE REST MAY HAVE S0ME TRUTHS IN IT, BUT NOT COMPLETE, LACKING, AGAIN THERE ARE LEVELS OF TRUTH, LEVELS OF MORALITY (PROTESTANTS, BUDDHISM, HINDUISM, ETC)..R.C.C. WHERE THE BIBLE COMES FROM, MAGISTERIUM, DOCTRINES, AND TRADITION OF ABRAHAM, HAS THE FULLNESS AND PERFECTION OF VIRTUE AND MORALITY, SOLUTIONS TO EVERFY PROBLEMS AND EVERY SITUATION THE WORLD FACES, DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE, BUT FOR ALL, A FACT....THERE MAYBE MANY GODS, BUT THOU SHALL NOT HAVE OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM...THERE MAYBE MANY GODS AND IDOLS, BUT ONLY THE GOD OF ABRAHAM IS THE ONE AND TRUE GOD, IN OTHER WORDS THE GOD OF VIRTUE, RESPECT, PATIENT, AND LOVING MAN IS THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD, THE GODS OF PERVERTS (KARMA SUTRA, HINDUISM), THE GODS OF DISRESPECTFULL AND HATEFULL MAN IS A WEAK GODS....( this is another topic).
NOW WE ARE ALL SINNERS, BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMINTING MISTAKES AND GUILTY ABOUT IT, OR DOING IT AND PROMOTING IT AND DEFENDING IT AND PRACTICING IT.
IF PRIEST, POPES, ET.C SINNED, THEY DIDNT WRITE IT DOWN AS A DOCUMENT OF TRUTH FOR THE REST TO FOLLOW, SHOW ME WHERE IS IT IN THE CATECHISM WHERE ITS OK TO MOLEST, CURSE, RAPE, MURDER, NONE! JESUS KNOW HUMANS IN GENERAL SINS, HEAVEN AND EARTH IS CORRUPT AND WILL PASS AWAY "BUT HIS WORDS, THE TRUTH WILL NOT"....
 
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Originally posted by Jan Ardena
The men who do not discharge their semen, due to self-control, are closer to God, as they do not have a trace of lust, in their hearts, and thus becomes the most potent teachers of spiritual life, he becomes renounced. This type of life is very rare and demands the highest intelligence.

This account is not from the RCC, it an account of the santana dharma, the eternal occupation of the soul, which comes under the system of "varnashram dharma" which categorises different types of roles for humans, to make a harmonious and God-conscious system. I suspect that the RCC regulations are taken from that.
Hi Jan Ardena,
I guess it is one of the many ways of reaching God as per Sanatana Dharma, because many sages/rishis/saints were also married!
 
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whatsupyall:
1) What do you know about Karma Sutra and Hinduism? You commented on them- Which books did u refer?
2) Quickly tell me the difference between Karma Sutra and Kama Sutra?
3) Where is the promised list of religious texts (of religions you know of) after so many days?
Originally posted by whatsupyall Ultitruth, sorry for the long delay, school, work, family, friends are sometimes an obstacle, but I will post the answer to your question because God is the center of my life. I will try not to put any caps on it, but the reason why it takes long id because I cant find any webpages to support it because there isnt any I can find, I might end up just typing it straightout right here, maybe today, just hold on....
You are now telling me you are searching websites for that- so you commented without any base?
4) What is the partial truth in other religions?
5) What is the complete truth in RCC?
6) Why did you start life as a Sinner? Why such hopeless pessimism?
(sinners can't be preachers; and we didn't sin!)
7) Do you think the bible is right because it is an OLD BOOK? I have older and more sensible books I can share.
8) Did you realize that there were more sensible thought processes in other faiths when bible was written; and that the writers of bible were not even clever enough to understand and incorporate them?

Please reply:
1) in lower case
2) point by point
3) not exceeding 5 lines per point
4) without Xpletives

(I apologise to all sensible bible-believers for the comments, but can't help)
 
THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM

Revelation 2:14, "Thou hast them that hold the doctrine of Balaam , who taught Balak to cast a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.


Now you just can't have a Nicolaitane set-up in the church and not have this other doctrine come in , too. You see, if you take away the Word of God and the moving of the spirit as a means of worship(" they that worship me must worship me in truth") then you will have to give the people another form of worship as a substitute, and substitution spells Balaamism.


If we are going to understand what the doctrine of Balaam is in the New Testament church we had better go back and see what if was in the Old Testament church and apply it to that third age and then bring it up to the present.


Tmhe story is found in Numbers Chapter 22 through 25. Now we know that Israel was the chosen people of God. They were the Pentecostals of their day. They had taken refuge under the blood, they had all been baptized in the Red Sea and they came up out of the waters, singing in the spirit and dancing under the energy of the Holy Ghost, while Miriam, the prophetess, played her tambourine. Well, after a certain time of journeying, these children of Israel came to Moab. You remember who Moab was. He was the son of Lot by one of his own daughters, and Lot in turn was a nephew of Abraham, so Israel and Moab were related. I want you to see that. The Moabites knew the truth, whether they lived up to it or not.

So Israel came up to the borders of Moab and sent messengers to the king saying, " We are brothers. Let us pass through your land. If our people or our animals eat or drink anything, we will gladly pay for it." But King Balak got very excited. That head of that Nicolaitane bunch was not about to let the church come through with its signs and wonders and divers manifestations of the Holy Ghost, with their faces shining with the glory of God. It was too risky, as he might lose some of his crowd. So Balak refused to let Israel pass through. In fact, so great was his fear of them, that he went to an hireling prophet called Balaam and asked him to mediate between him and God and petition the Almighty to curse Israel, and render them impotent. And Balaam, being eager to take part in political affairs and become a great man , was only too glad to do so. But seeing that he had to approach to, and receive and audience from God to get the people cursed, as he could not do it by himself, he went to ask God if he could have the permission to go. Now isn't that just like the Nicolaitanes we have with us today? They curse everyone that won't go their way

When Balaam asked God for permission go,God turned him down, My that stung! But Balak insisted, promising him even greater rewards and honor. So Balaam went back to God. Now one answer from God should have been enough. But not for self-willed Balaam. When God saw his perversity, he told him to get up and go. Quickly he saddled the donkey and away he went. He should have realized that this was simply God's permissive will and he wouldn't be able to curse them if he went twenty times and tried twenty times. How like Balaam are people today! They believe in three Gods, get baptized in three titles instead of the NAME, and yet God will sent the Spirit upon them as He did upon Balaam, and they will go on believing that they are exactly right, and here they are actually perfect Balaamites. See, the doctrine of Balaam. Go ahead anyway. Do it your way. They say, "Well, God has blessed us. It must be aright." I know he has blessed you. I don't deny that. But it's the same organizational route that Balaam took. It's defiance to God's word. It's false teaching.

So Balaam went wildly down the road until an angel from God stood in his way. But that prophet( bishop, cardinal, chairman, president and general overseer) was so blinded to Spiritual things by the thought of honor and glory and money that he could not see the angel standing with drawn sword. There he stood to block the mad prophet. The little donkey saw him and dodged back and forth until he finally crushed Balaam's foot against a stone wall. The ass stopped and would not go on. He could not. So Balaam jumped off and began beating him. The donkey then began to talk to Balaam. God let that donkey speak in a tongue. That donkey was no hybrid; he was original seed. He said to the blinded prophet, " Am I not your donkey, and haven't I carried you faithfully?" Balaam replied, "Yes, yes, you are my donkey and you have carried me faithfully until now; and if I can't get going, I'm going to kill you.......whoa! what's this, talking to a donkey? That's funny, I thought I heard the donkey talking and I was answering it back."



God has always spoken in a tongue. He spoke at Belshazzar’s feast and then at Pentecost . He is doing it again today. It’s a warning of soon coming judgment.

Then the angel was made visible to Balaam. He told Balaam that except for the donkey he would be dead even now for tempting God. But when Balaam promised to go back, he was sent on with the admonition to say only what God gave him.

So Balaam went down and set up seven altars for the clean beasts of sacrifice. He killed a ram signifying the coming of the Messiah. He knew what to do to approach unto God. He had the mechanics just right; but not the dynamics,; same as now. Can’t you see it, Nicolaitanes?
There was Israel down there in the valley, offering the same sacrifice, doing the same things, but only one had the sighs following. Only one had God in their midst. Form won’t get you anywhere, It can’t take the place of Spirit-manifestation. That is what happened at Nicaea. They put over Balaam’s doctrine, not the doctrine of God. And they stumbled; yea they fell. They became dead men.

After the sacrifice was made, Balaam was ready to prophesy. But God tied his tongue up and he could not curse them He blessed them.


Balak was very angry, but there was nothing that Balaam could do about the Prophecy. It had been spoken by the Holy Ghost,. So Balak told Balaam to go down, into the valley, and look upon their back parts to see if there wasn’t possibly some way he could curse them. The tactics that Balak used are the same tactics they use today. The big denominations look down at the little groups, and anything they find amongst them to make out a scandal they bring it out and shout it. If the moderns live in sin, no one says anything about it; but let one of the elect get into trouble and every paper blasts it across the country. Yes, Israel had her back(carnal) parts. They had their side that wasn’t praise-worthy; But in spite of their imperfections, by the purpose of God that works through election, by grace and not by works, THEY HAD THE CLOUD BY DAY AND THE PILLAR OF FIRE BY NIGHT, THEY HAD THE SMITTEN ROCK, THE BRAZEN SERPENT AND THE SIGNS AND WONDERS.
They were vindicated -not in themselves, but in God.

God didn’t have any respect for those Nicolaitanes with their PHD’s, LLD’s and all their fine organizations and the best that man could boast; but He did have respect unto Israel for they had the Word vindicated amongst them. Certainly Israel didn’t look too polished up, just having come out of Egypt in precipitous flight , but she was a blessed people anyway. All she had ever known for over three hundred years was herding flocks, tending fields and slaving away in fear of death under the Egyptians. But she was free now. She was a blessed people through the sovereignty of God. Certainly Moab looked down on her. All the other nations did too. Organization always looks down on the unorganized or destroy them when they won’t come,

Now someone might ask me, “Brother Brahman, what makes you think that Moab was organized while Israel was not? Where do you get that idea? “ I get it right here in the Bible. It is all typed out here. Everything written in the Old Testament that is in story form is written for our admonition so that we can learn from it. Here it is right in Numbers 23:9, “From the top of the rocks I see him, an from the hills I behold him; lo the people shall dwell ALONE and shall NOT BE RECKONED AMONG THE NATIONS.” There it is. God looking down from the top of the rocks, not in some valley looking for their bad points and condemnng them . God seeing them the way He wanted to see them- from the height of love and mercy. They dwelt ALONE and they weren’t organized.They didn’t have a king. They had a prophet, and the prophet had God in him by the spirit; and the Word came to the prophet and the Word went to the people. They didn’t belong to the World Council of Churches, to the Baptists, Presbyterians, Assembly of God or any other group.They were joined to God. They didn’t need counsel from and council- they had “Thus saith the Lord” in their midst. Hallelujah!

Now in spite of the fact that Balaam knew the proper approach to God and could bring forth a revelation from the Lord by means of a special enduement of power, he was still, for all of that, a bishop in the false group. For what did he do now in order to win favor with Balak? He formulated a plan wherein God would be forced to deal with Israel in death. Just as Satan knew that he could beguile Eve(cause her to fall in fleshly sin) thus causing God to pass His pronounced sentence of death against sin , so Balaam knew that if he could get Israel to sin, God would have to deal with them in death . So he planned a way to get them to come over an join in sin. He sent out invitations to come to the feast of Baal-peor(come over and worship with us). Now Israel, no doubt, had seen the feasts of the Egyptians so they did not feel it was wrong to go and just look on and perhaps eat with the people. (What is wrong with fellowship anyway? We are supposed to love them , aren’t we, or how can we win them?)Being friendly never hurt anyone- or so they thought . But when those sexy Moabitish women began to dance and undress while they whirled around doing their rock and roll and twist, the lust rose up in the Israelites and they were drawn in to adultery, and God in wrath slew forty-two thousand of them.

And that is what Constantine and his successors did at Nicaea and after Nicaea. They invited the people of God to the convention. And when the church sat down to eat, and rose up to play(partaking of church form, ceremonies, and pagan feasts named after Christian rites) she was trapped; she had committed fornication . And God walked out.

When any man turns from the Word of God and joins a church instead of receiving the Holy Spirit, that man dies. Dead! That is what he is. Don’t join a church. Don’t get taken up with Creeds and tradition or anything that takes the place of the Word and the Spirit, or you’re dead. It’s all over. Your’re dead. Eternally separated from God!

That is what has happened in every age since. God delivers the people. They come out by the blood, sanctified by the Word, walk through the waters of baptism and get filled with the spirit; but after awhile the first love cools off and someone gets the idea that they ought to organize themselves, and they organize themselves right back in the second generation and sometimes even before then. They no longer have the Spirit of God, just a form of worship. They are dead They have hybridized themselves with creed and form and there is no life in them.


So Balaam got Israel to comment fornication Do you know that physical fornication is the very same spirit that lies in organized religion ? I said that the spirit of fornication is the spirit of organization. And all fornicators will have their place in the lake of fire. That is what God thinks of organization, And all fornicators will have their place in the lake of fire. That is what God thinks of organization. Yes sir , the whore and her daughters will be in the lake of fire.

Denominations are not of God. They never have been and never will be. It’s a wrong spirit that separates the people into hierarchy and laity; and it’s , therefore, a wrong spirit that separates the people from the people. That’s what organization and denominations do. In organizing they separate themselves from the Words of God, and bring themselves into spiritual adultery.

Now notice that Constantine gave special feasts unto the people. They were the old pagan feasts with new names taken from the church, or in some cases christian rites were taken and abused with pagan ceremonies. He took the worship of the sun-god and changed it to the Son of God. Instead of celebrating on December 21, which is when they used to celebrate the feast to the sun-god, they put it up to December 25th and called it the Son of God’s birthday. But we know that He was born in April when life comes forth,not in December. And they took the feast to Astarte and called it the Easter celebration wherein the Christian is supposed to celebrate the death and resurrection of the Lord. Actually it was a pagan feast to Astarte.

They placed altars in the church. They put in images. They gave the people what they called the apostles’ creed, though you can’t find it in the Bible. They taught the people ancestor worship thereby making the Roman Catholic Church the greatest spiritistic church in the world. Every foul bird was in that cage. And you have the Protestants with their organizations doing the same thing.

They ate things sacrificed to idols. Now I don't say that this really means they were literally eating meats sacrificed to idols. For though the council of Jerusalem has spoken against such, Paul did not made much of it as he said the idols were nothing. It was just a matter of conscience except where it offended another brother and then it was not allowed. Furthermore, this Revelation has to do with Gentiles and not Jews as these are Gentile churches.I see this in the same light I see the words of the Lord, “Except ye eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life in you.

Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. “ You can see that eating is actually partaking in a spiritual sense So when these people were bowing to the images, lighting candles, using pagan holidays, confessing their sins to men(all of which belongs to the devil’s religion.), they were partakers with the devil and not of the Lord. They were in idolatry whether they admitted it or not. They can talk all they want that the altars and the incense are only to remind them of the prayers of the Lord or whatever they think it means; and they can say that when they pray before the image it is just for the sake of emphasis; and that when they confess to the priest, it is really to God they are doing it to in their hearts; and when they say the priest forgives them, it is just that he is doing it in the Name of the Lord; they can say what they want but they are partaking in the well known Babylonian, Satanic religion and have joined themselves to idols and committed spiritual fornication, which means death. They are dead

So the church and the state were married, The church joined up with idols. With the power of the state behind them they felt that now, “The kingdom had come and God’s will had been enforced upon the earth. “ No wonder the Roman Catholic Church is not looking for the return of the Lord Jesus. They are not millennialists. They have their millennium right here. The pope is reigning right now and God is reigning in him. So when he comes , according to them , it has to be when the new heavens and earth are prepared. But they are wrong. That pope is the head of the false church, and there is going to be a millennium, but while that is going on he won’t be in it. He will be somewhere else.


THE WARNING

Revelation 2:16 , “ Repent or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.”

What else can He say? Can God overlook the sin of those who have borne His Name in vain? There is only one way to receive grace in the hour of sin, REPENT. Confess you are wrong. Come to God for forgiveness and for the spirit of God. This is a command from God. To disobey is death, for He says, “ I will make war with you with the sword in My mouth.” The beast made war with the saints, but God will make war with the beast. Those who fought the Word will one day find the Word fighting them. It is a serious thing to take from, or add to the Word of God. For those who changed it and did with it as it suited them, what will their end be but death and destruction? But still the grace of God cried out, “Repent.” Oh , how sweet are the thoughts of repentance.
Nothing in my hands I bring, simply to Thy cross I cling. I bring my sorrow. I repent that I am what I am, and what I have done. Now it is the blood, nothing but the blood of Jesus . What will it be ? Repentance, or the sword of death”
It’s up to you.


By William Marrion Branham

( From An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages)

Voice Of God Recordings

P.O. Box 950, Jeffersonville, Indiana 47131 U.S.A.
 
Re: THE DOCTRINE OF BALAAM

Originally posted by Lady


When any man turns from the Word of God and joins a church instead of receiving the Holy Spirit, that man dies. Dead! That is what he is. Don’t join a church. Don’t get taken up with Creeds and tradition or anything that takes the place of the Word and the Spirit, or you’re dead. It’s all over. Your’re dead. Eternally separated from God!
Joining the church is dead? So Jesus is dead? After all he was subject to tradition, he was baptized, he taught in synagogues. The apostles are dead for forming the Roman Catholic church? Mother Theresa is dead? All the millions of christians today are dead? The Billy Graham ministry is dead? I am dead? Pentecostals are dead?




Originally posted by Lady

Denominations are not of God. They never have been and never will be. It’s a wrong spirit that separates the people into hierarchy and laity; and it’s , therefore, a wrong spirit that separates the people from the people. That’s what organization and denominations do. In organizing they separate themselves from the Words of God, and bring themselves into spiritual adultery.

So all this denominations today are "WRONG" SPIRIT? Penetcostals, methodist, all the millions of christians are commiting adultery and are going to hell? That is so sad, that accusation is so sad. Mother Theresa who dedicated her entire life serving the lord is damned? All the nuns, and priest are going to hell. Lay missionaries, even the Billy Graham ministry is also commiting spiritual adultery?...


Originally posted by Lady

They placed altars in the church. They put in images. They gave the people what they called the apostles’ creed, though you can’t find it in the Bible. They taught the people ancestor worship thereby making the Roman Catholic Church the greatest spiritistic church in the world. Every foul bird was in that cage. And you have the Protestants with their organizations doing the same thing.

So images of God is wrong? The apostles creed is not in the bible because it was made in the year 300 A.D., about 1,000 years before the bible exist...


Originally posted by Lady

So when these people were bowing to the images, lighting candles, using pagan holidays, confessing their sins to men(all of which belongs to the devil’s religion.), they were partakers with the devil and not of the Lord. They were in idolatry whether they admitted it or not.

Again bowing to images and statues of God is wrong? lighting candles is wrong? when does the catholic church celebrate pagan holidays? Give me ONE example...
Your suggesting that those who make statues of God and light candles are partakers of the devil, and are in idolatry whether we admit it or not....Your deluded...


Originally posted by Lady

So the church and the state were married, The church joined up with idols. With the power of the state behind them they felt that now, “The kingdom had come and God’s will had been enforced upon the earth. “ No wonder the Roman Catholic Church is not looking for the return of the Lord Jesus. They are not millennialists. They have their millennium right here. The pope is reigning right now and God is reigning in him. So when he comes , according to them , it has to be when the new heavens and earth are prepared. But they are wrong. That pope is the head of the false church, and there is going to be a millennium, but while that is going on he won’t be in it. He will be somewhere else.


By William Marrion Branham

( From An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages)

Voice Of God Recordings

P.O. Box 950, Jeffersonville, Indiana 47131 U.S.A.

So the teaching of the church is of the devil? So to be antipornography proves the church being evil? Because we are anti-abortion, then we are evil? because we preach the good-news, then we are the devil?
We do await for the coming of Christ. BUT NOT LITERALLY LIKE YOU, WHO TAKE REVELATION LITERALLY; THAT A HUGE LANDSCAPE WITH MANSION HOUSE MADE OUT OF GOLD ON TOP OF IT, AND WILL FALL FROM THE SKY TO EARTH, WHICH IS HEAVEN, THE HOUSE OF GOD...HOW DID IT CAME DOWN? WITH UFO'S HOLDING IT IN EACH CORNER? WHY ARE U TAKING THE SCRIPTURES LITERALLY?

Lady, this letter is what makes somebody hate christianity in general, not just the roman catholic church, or even become atheist...THIS WRITINGS SUGGEST THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO HELL, AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO HELL AS WELL....When that is not true at all, GOD LOVES HIS CHILDREN, ALL OF US, GENTILES OR JEWS, CHRISTIANS OR NOT, ASIANS AND BLACKS, WHITES AND MEXICANS...

THIS ARE THE FALSE PREACHERS, YOU ARE FULFILLING THE PROPHESY OF THE BOOK OF REVELATION, WHEN CONFUSION WILL REIGN BEFORE THE END OF TIMES, SATAN HAS MANY NAMES, AND AMONG THEM IS THE ACCUSER, FATHER OF LIES, MASTER OF CONFUSION AND DELUSION...

IF ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS EVIL, BECAUSE IT TEACHES US ALL TO LOVE ALL RELIGIONS REGARDLESS, SENDS MISSIONARIES IN DYING COUNTRIES, TEACHES US ALL TO RESPECT HUMAN LIFE, FROM ELDERLIES TO BABIES...IF YOU CALL THIS EVIL, THEN WHAT IS GOOD?
THIS LETTER TEACHES THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO HELL...BUDDHIST ARE GOING TO HELL, PROTESTANTS, AND CATHOLICS, UNLESS WE REPENT AND CALL THAT GUY, THEN HE WILL GUIDE US TO THE TRUE PATH (YEAH RIGHT)...HE IS ONE OF MANY MANY FALSE PREACHERS...AND YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER VICTIM OF THE DEVIL'S CUNNING PLAN....

Thats the problem with u taking the bible literally
 
A man becomes more, cognizant and powerfull, when he does not waste his semen. He has total self- control.
Experienced yogis can make their semen travel up into their brain which causes enlightenment, by way of "kundalini."
Semen is very powerful.

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Reality check-
Christmas (the first celebration "mass" of Jesus Christ), pagans have x-mas..
There is all souls day for christians, then there is halloween for pagans...
There is easter celebration, when Jesus ressurected, and theres also the Easter Bunny for pagans...
Mardi-Gra is a christian feast celebration, then the pagans turned it into a sexual feast.
When the aztec indians used to offer up children as a sacrifice for their gods (idols), then Virgin Mary appeared and that same spot where children were offered up for idols, Virgin Mary requested that is where the church should be built in reparation for all the sins of murder commited, till today the church is standing...

There r many celebrations, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE WORLD HAS TO COUNTERACT AGAINST GOD, TO DISTRACT PEOPLE AWAY FROM TRUTH..
AND IF THE DEVIL DOES THAT, GOD ALSO DISTRACTS PEOPLE FROM IDOL WORSHIPING...TWO PLAYS THE SAME GAME....PAGANS HAVE THEIR OWN, CHRISTIANS HAVE THEIR OWN.
MAYBE THE CHRISTIANS HAVE DISTRACTED SOME IDOL CELEBRATION AND TURNED THAT SAME DAY AS CELEBRATI0N FOR GOD, BUT PAGANS ALSO DO THE SAME....
 
Trinity

Why do you baptize in the Name of Jesus in place of the name of the “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost”?




Well, there is no such a thing as a name of “Father, Son, Holy Ghost.” That’s the reason. There was nobody in the Bible ever baptized in the Name of “Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” Every person in the Bible , or three hundred years this side the Bible, was baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ.
Not one apostle, not one Christian, not one time was the “Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost” ever used for baptism until the Catholic Church was organized at the Nicene Council, three hundred and six year's after the death of the last apostle.


There is no such a thing as name of ‘FATHER, SON, AND HOLY GHOST. Father is not a name, Son is not a name, Holy Ghost is not a name. It’s three titles, three office titles to a Name: Jesus Christ. So therefore there is no such a thing as the name of “ Father, Son, Holy Ghost.” There’s no name to it so I baptize in the Name of Jesus Christ which is the Name of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.




By William Marrion Branham
 
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May I ask who this person is? By who's authority can he say what is right, and what is wrong.
What is his educational background? And what are his beliefs WHICH HE CLAIMS TO BE THE TRUTH...
What is his denomination? Is he a member of a "Non denominational church"? Is that his denomination?
The bible have not said that internet porn is a sin. The bible have not said that THERE IS NO Holy Trinity (In fact the bible mentions clearly of the Holy Trinity and I will clarify this later). The bible have not said that ripping off the papers off the new testament and use it for rolling weed is a sin. The bible have not said that child molestation is a sin. The bible have not said that bombing America with atomic bombs is a sin. There are many things the bible have not said but are a sin.
So who gave this guy authority to- judge right from wrong?


Geez Lady, whats wrong with you? Can I get a straight answer from you? Were you raised all your life thinking the Pope is the anti-christ, the devil in the flesh and Catholics are all going to hell and the buddhist and all other religions too. Is this what you have been taught all your life? I want to know, Im curious....
 
Originally posted by whatsupyall
May I ask who this person is? By who's authority can he say what is right, and what is wrong.
What is his educational background? And what are his beliefs WHICH HE CLAIMS TO BE THE TRUTH...


**Like wise the R.C.C.

What is his denomination? Is he a member of a "Non denominational church"? Is that his denomination?

**Non denominational ( Branham. org)

So who gave this guy authority to- judge right from wrong?

** Likewise the R.C.C.


Geez Lady, whats wrong with you?

** Many things except the sixth sense.

Can I get a straight answer from you? Were you raised all your life thinking the Pope is the anti-christ, the devil in the flesh and Catholics are all going to hell and the buddhist and all other religions too. Is this what you have been taught all your life? I want to know, Im curious....


** Taught?Satan couldn't hide his presence whether incarnate or immaterial, futhermore, not all humans are going to hell but NONE are going to man-made safety bins, either.
 
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Originally posted by Lady
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**Like wise the R.C.C.

Fact; 1. The Roman Catholic church is the ORIGINAL church...
Fact: 2. Jesus handed his authority over to Peter, "Feed my sheep". Jesus was the shepherd, and st. Peter was given that same role for the church...."Peter you are my rock, etc. whos sins u shall forgive they shall be forgiven, I will give u the keys to the gate of heaven, etc.".
Fact: 3. St. Peter handed his authority over to the next apostle who is to take over his place, St. Linus, years of reign, 67 to 76, after him is st.Anacletus 76-88, then St. Clement 88-97, (there are now 264 popes after st. Peter, today Pope John Paul 11, 1978- current.) In fact, st. Peter's tomb is still in Vatican Rome....

Are you arguing against this facts? Your bible CAME FROM US, That is stolen from us. Are you denying the historical fact of reformation?



Originally posted by Lady
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**Non denominational ( Branham. org)

Non denominational? Thats a lie, there is no such thing as "non denominational" denomination church...You listen to his interpretation, you listen to his sermons, thus you listen to his authority, OTHERWISE IF YOU DONT LISTEN TO HIS AUTHORITY, WHAT IF YOU THINK ITS OK TO BE GAY AND HE SAID IT IS NOT, WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG? THEN IT WILL END UP HE IS RIGHT, because he has authority IN HIS CHURCH...You are being decieved and lied to...


Originally posted by Lady
** Taught?Satan couldn't hide his presence whether incarnate or immaterial, futhermore, not all humans are going to hell but NONE are going to man-made safety bins, either.

So what are you suggesting? That churches and denominations such as Braha.org are all commiting "SPIRITUAL ADULTERY"? If so, are we going to hell if we dont BECOME LIKE BRAHAM? So are you saying all the catholics in the past went to hell because there is no purgatory and they didnt repent for their "Idol" worshippinmg according to you..

So what are you saying? That all catholics went to hell including st. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Francis, St. Peter, those who compiled the bible are going to hell? After all they didnt confess because of their denominations...

Lady, what can u say about this? Ill wait for yur response....
 
Branham. org...I checked the webpage myself Lady. This guy started his ministry because according to him, he saw an angel and the angel told him to do this and that, like what happened to the apostle...
But why are u so quick on believing this? Jesus warned you about false prophets in the future, did you listen to Him?
How can you say the Roman Catholic church is the false church in Revelation when the fact is, we existed during the time of the apostles. St. peter founded our church, is st. Peter the anti-christ?
You heard of John Smith? The founder of mormons (Or Jehovas witness I think)..He have a story too...He said he saw a frog talking to him, and told him to do this and that, and later in years they change the original writings and said that he saw an angel, this was documented in Discovery channel...
There are even cults who said an angel told them to start a church with 20 wives, take David Karesh in Wacko Texas for example....And people actually listened to him...
You claimed to only believe in the bible, well Jesus said "Peter you are my rock and upon my rock I will build my CHURCH, and not the gates of hell shall prevail against it", and your bible might have changed the word "church" to "FOUNDATION", however u view it, that is a living proof that Jesus FOUNDED the Roman Catholic church through St. Peter, a historical fact, u want to deny this? and might as well deny the whole entire history in earth..Period, you are now like the atheists...
 
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