what defines marriage?
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I don't know what defines marriage because I think each is unique as each of us are.
But I do know what it takes to keep it working. A lot of communication and willingness to compromise. There has to be a desire from each to make it work, or it won't.
Oh, yes, lots of sex and keep it interesting, new etc.
I agree with you Lori on one point. The reason we get together and stay together is sex. This is something that we can't deny.
In fact many couples stay together for sex even when they don't get along. They don't want to risk not having it when they want it.
But I do know what it takes to keep it working. A lot of communication and willingness to compromise. There has to be a desire from each to make it work, or it won't.
Oh, yes, lots of sex and keep it interesting, new etc.
I agree with you Lori on one point. The reason we get together and stay together is sex. This is something that we can't deny.
In fact many couples stay together for sex even when they don't get along. They don't want to risk not having it when they want it.
river-wind
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The choice by the individual to get married has little to do with the social support for the institution.
And to be less formal, I see little gain to your relationship for the ceremony. Do you magically love each other more because you told everyone else that you plan to stick together?
Without the assumption of religious benefit (telling god your love for one another); I don't think marriage changes anything in an otherwise committed and loving relationship; other than complicate taxes.
I think Sex is a powerful thing, for both partners. In addition to the biological effects, it can cause both great emotional reactions. In both cases (biological & emotional), the effects from carelessly engaging in sexual activity can be devastating.
Careful engagement, however, can be greatly wonderful and rewarding; married or not.
I do think that restricting oneself to sex within a monogamous, loving relationship makes using sex in a careful and responsible way thousands of times easier; therefor I recommend it.
I don't hate anyone, Lori, that would be another lie on your part.
You're one of the worst hypocrites here. You go on and on about your Jeebus and god and then turn around and commit fornication out of wedlock.
our's is pure and we don't deprive each other.
Pure garbage. You're going to burn. Your god will get you for committing sin, Lori. If you believe what you believe, you know this to be true.
river-wind
Valued Senior Member
As for the common Christian definition of marriage, having sex prior to the public ceremony sealing the covenant between husband, wife and god, is a sin.
http://www.gotquestions.org/sex-before-marriage.html
http://www.layhands.com/IsPremaritalSexASin.htm
That said, people read things they way they want. That's why there's so many Abrahamic religions.
http://www.gotquestions.org/sex-before-marriage.html
http://www.layhands.com/IsPremaritalSexASin.htm
That said, people read things they way they want. That's why there's so many Abrahamic religions.
I don't think it is a patronising way to look at it. And if marriage is about being desired then you can expect to be divorced once you reach the age where you have lost your youthful beauty. Plus i never said anything about "overlooking" the others faults. What i was talking about was accepting the other person has them and continuing in the relationship through Love, which includes a bit of long suffering towards the bad points of another while enjoying their good points.
For company. I did not say that it was the ONLY question i would ask. I said the question was the most important one for me.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
There are many different ways of saying oh yeah. :shrug: ?
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
Ah yes, thats an important C as well. Many marriages might be saved [and savoured better] with some attention to communication.
So compromise, communication, caring and commitment.
I don't know how old you are, but I assure you, for most women desire lasts way beyond the first flush of youth. But yes, men are likely to be more susceptible to younger women, especially if they are of the less discriminating kind.
So your needs are secondary to those of possible children in a marriage, for you?
Typical. Your god agrees with you because you say so. You tell me to read the bible to see this agreement, yet the bible does not agree with you as you have fornicated out of wedlock. Are you feeling the temperature rising, yet? A burning sensation?
Yes, I'm sure you'll justify your abomination just like any believer who attempts to justify their actions, but it will still be YOU roasting on a spit. LOL!
Look here Lori, you make the bed and lie in it. Plenty more where this came from..
*hint* ...the bible
"HEB 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept
pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
1CO 7:5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so
that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that
Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control."
first of all, WHERE IN THE FUCK IS A MODERATOR??? because i know damn well it would have taken all of 2 seconds before one was up a professed religious person's ass for saying the above.
secondly, the above quotes represent what you have stated to hate about religion and religious people. THOSE ARE YOUR QUOTES. AND you'll blame religion for them. therefore YOU are the biggest hypocrite here and anywhere for that matter.
thirdly, i have stated very clearly that i equate sexual intercourse with marriage. i've stated that in other threads as well. that happens to be why i was celibate for 8 years prior to having sex with my husband. that equation is taken straight out of the bible, and coincides with what god has taught me personally about sex and marriage.
i know this is way too heady for you Q, but the topic here is "what defines marriage?" i've given my answer...sex. sex defines marriage imo.
you can answer the question in your own opinion, or you can contribute intelligently and politely like the rest of us.
Of course, she is a hypocrite, just like most other believers. What's truly sickening about the whole thing is when believers turn to the same scriptures to tell us what to believe and how to live.
What does a moderator have to do with your abomination to your god?
The quotes came from the same bible you believe to be the word of your god. You are free to check them yourself, but you probably haven't read the bible or else you would know yourself. This has absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with your sins against your god. It would appear that you'll burn in hell for an eternity as a result.
There are other verses that state you should probably be put to death for your sins, but that would be far too extreme, don't ya think?
No one cares what you equate when the bible clearly states you fornicated out of wedlock and will burn in hell for doing so. If you don't believe in your god and your bible, just say so.
If its' straight out of the bible, then show it to me. I've already provided several quotes from the bible indicating you've seriously sinned against your god with the end result that your marriage would be a sham.
Good for you. That clearly demonstrates your hypocrisy. That is the entire point. The bible has a different view than you do, so you must do as the bible tells you to do or else.
I contributed some of the most relevant material showing quite clearly your abomination. Too bad for you and the time you'll spend in hell. That isn't my opinion, it is the law of your god and your beliefs.
My fanaticism? Isn't it the believers here who are telling us what to believe and how to live, fanatically? And, aren't those very same believers doing the exact opposite of what they are telling us?
Fanaticism indeed.
anyone who might take a look at your posts here would think it was you. wouldn't they?
the purpose of this thread is to ask the question "what defines marriage?" to you, personally, and many people, believers or not, myself included, have been able to HANDLE responding to and/or answering that question in an honest and polite way. everyone except for you.
The verses come from the bible, Lori. Haven't read it yet? Maybe you should.
Marriage is defined in the bible, too Lori. Didn't you know that? Maybe you should read it and find out. Since it is defined, my comments are in line with the OP.
What you've done is completely ignore the bible and have personally defined marriage based on your natural instincts.
That sounds very much like "ATHEISM"
the moderator has to do with your flaming and preaching.
i'm not talking about the scripture you quoted, i'm talking about your own words.
and the scripture you did quote does not conflict with what i define marriage to be. nowhere in the bible is marriage defined as a ceremony or a secular contract. it is defined as a covenant between a man, a woman, and god, that is defined by, and centered around sex. i have already stated this. marriage is a communion, where two become one in the flesh. that's a description of sex, and the often naturally occurring product of sex...children.
marriage is also used to describe the relationship between christ and his church when communion with god and each other are restored through him. when we become perfect in the flesh, as christ is, and we are all made whole and in love.
That is a lie, there was no flaming and no preaching. I presented to you the very same thing a believer would present to us, verses from the bible.
Yes, it does.
Your personal preferences towards sex have nothing to do with the bible. Wasn't that made clear with the verses themselves? Are you having trouble with comprehension?
Christ didn't fuck the church out of wedlock, did he? Or, are there some hidden verses in the bible only your are aware?
See, you bleat out your beliefs like a sheep, but when it comes time to be accountable for your actions, you completely ignore them.
The verses come from the bible, Lori. Haven't read it yet? Maybe you should.
Marriage is defined in the bible, too Lori. Didn't you know that? Maybe you should read it and find out. Since it is defined, my comments are in line with the OP.
What you've done is completely ignore the bible and have personally defined marriage based on your natural instincts.
That sounds very much like "ATHEISM"
here is a sampling of what the bible says about marriage.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/marriage
find the definition.