Notes Around
Alright, to touch on just a few points from this comedic disaster, and starting at the beginning:
Madanthonywayne said:
So you organize an event featuring a bunch of topless women and are "enraged" that men show up to enjoy the show?
I would think you might be overlooking a point, except that you
raised the point later in the thread:
Plus, don't forget about the male tendency to be hypnotized by the sight of breasts ....
This has always been something of a joke in my circles, but I started noticing the point in earnest
a couple years ago. Isn't it to some degree bigoted to reduce men to mere mechanical objects? Are we not human? Yet I've discovered that pointing to men's apparent inability to control their sex drives is only offensive if the point is made as a criticism of men. If offered in their defense, it's apparently perfectly acceptable.
I think if men who are accustomed to spending parts of their summers working topless had to endure the kind of ogling and sexual harassment women are broadly subject to, they would probably think twice before stripping off in the midday heat.
Of course, if gays decided to deliberately make the point by harassing shirtless het men, people would scream and cry about the dirty-minded homos, and this is why they should be stuffed back in the closet.
That men showed up for the sexual thrill only reinforces the protesters.
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Neverfly said:
It's better than me being a dick.
Indeed. If you were a dick, you'd periodically be required to wear a suffocating raincoat while being stuffed into a dank cave and forced to do jumping jacks until you puked.
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S.A.M. said:
Its a crying shame when you find headlines like these:
Why Can't Men Wear Panties?
Generally speaking, men have painted themselves into a corner.
The problem with men wearing panties, even after we cut away all the sexism, is sort of technical. That is ... um ... there's really nothing attractive or comfortable about, say, a thin strip of nylon mesh squeezing a couple of fleshy pockets out to either side.
Or, to be blunt, unless we have what are generally considered diminutive genitals, we don't exactly fit properly into lingerie. And, yes, I am speaking from experience here.
To the other, I have encountered men's versions of what is often considered women's lingerie. I've worn thongs before, and even still have a couple in my drawer. Presently I have "string bikini" underwear, with only a thin strip of fabric at the hip. About the only women's underwear that will remotely fit men properly are what we commonly refer to as "granny panties", which most people don't find sexy at all.
Beyond that, it's all an issue of style: right now, frilly lace just isn't considered "masculine". And plenty of what we might refer to as "sensible" women's underwear comes with various prints on the fabric, men's prints are usually masculine: stripes, paisley, plaid, &c. No flowers. No cutesy squiggles. I don't think I could even find men's bikini underwear with
Family Guy or beer mug print without delving into the specialty retail corners of the gay community.
To the one, all it requires is a commercial trend. To the other, there are some people I just don't ever want to see with lace or satin frill peeking out between their thighs, or from the folds of fat-laden flesh. And that boundary has no real gender attachment to it.
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Omega133 said:
Yeah today guy's wouldn't wear that.
I might. I still prefer to buy button-down shirts at least a size too large, and leave the cuffs unbuttoned. It's more comfort than fashion, but all else being equal, give me a well-fitted rayon shirt with a Mandarin collar and some sort of ruffle at the cuff, and I would probably wear it. The actual design of the lace or whatever would only be relevant in terms of thematic consistency; I wouldn't wear stripes with a more flowery lace, or paisley with linear decoration.
Then again, that's me, and cannot by any logic be held representative of most guys.
