There is 'meaning and purpose to life'

Felix 'The cool cat'':cool:'
Thanx! I don't know Sir Loone but people like him have there head so far up there, OOOPPS off topic, He will just never under stand that this has to happen within us and by us or it will never happen at all. Food for thought.
 
Earth dying.....

Earth is dying and you are talking.
Why don't we do something together, don't know what, but that'll come.
The Earth is gone before our children are and we are to blame.....
But keep on talking, talk, talk to the very last minute
:confused:
 
Banshee
I'm open to any suggestions as to what can be done. But realize one thing. even if every person registered here were to agree still to reach anyone that could possible make this global are slim.
We do need to do something but what?
 
People like you is what we need. People who want to help to come forward for Earth. And every one who is against the pollution and the destruction of rain-forests and so on......

That's what we need. All of us, here from the forums and everybody you know......

Take 'em with you and tell them how urgent it is that we do something before Earth dies.........

I don't know if it'll help, we can try, can't we....
Now we've nothing, then we may have something........when?......When we struggled enough to get Earth back, for we destroyed her first.
This is a real difficult subject, I really don't have an answer.
Wish I had, really, wish I had.

In fact we need all humans to stand up against this terrible misabuse of the Earth we live on..
That'll never happen, so what does that make me?? A useless dreamer???
Be careful with your answer......
 
*Originally posted by felix
Tony, Tony, Tony. I said "no" that's not what I was thinking of. As in, I wasn't thinking of that quote.
*
I get that.

*I simply assumed it had some relevence to my question since you act so knowledgable about the bible.*
So, that is why you quoted it?

*So how did it become irrelevant to the question AFTER you used it, but was relevant WHEN you used it?*
Simple.
When I use it, it is relevant to the point, afterwards we are on to a different point.

*I know it's really just a fear of the unknown that causes you to appear so hateful. *

Riiiiight.
What "unknown" would that be?

*Originally posted by Cris
But how do we know that his god is a tyrant? Easy, just look at the 10 commandments. They are all framed in the form of authoritarian commands. There are no concessions to the needs and desires of mankind; there is no consent to a democratic system. It is simple authoritarian tyranny. And tyranny also implies terror and that is also consistent when one considers the punishments for breaking any of the 10 commandments, in 9 out 10 the penalty is death.
*

That is all well and good, but...

The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
(Luke 16:16, KJV).

Your point is well taken up to the time of John the Baptist, which was a while ago.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

(Matthew 22:37-40, KJV).

Nothing particularly onerous there.

*Originally posted by tiassa
And here we find an even more sickening irony: the "consent" of the faithful, who believe that to not consent invites punishment.
*

But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
(Psalms 37:20, KJV).

The punishment isn't what the Catholics say it is.
There is no eternal torment.

*Originally posted by felix
I think the thing that most sets us apart from other nations is that we have the highest rate of crime and murder than anyone else.
*
Not even close.

The Catholics have killed more people than have ever lived in the US.
The Communist Chinese have killed the equivalent of almost half of the population of the US.
The Russian communists have killed the equivalent of a tenth of the US population.

Those were listed as neither crimes nor murders, so the statistics are extremely skewed.

It is far more dangerous to live in a communist country than in the US.
Few Americans are living with a 10% risk of getting killed by their own government, whereas every single resident of communist countries is living with that.

*Originally posted by Banshee
Take 'em with you and tell them how urgent it is that we do something before Earth dies.........
*
Easy to talk.
What is the "something" that everyone is supposed to do?

*In fact we need all humans to stand up against this terrible misabuse of the Earth we live on.. *
Count me in.
If there is anything I'm against, it is "terrible misabuse."

Just plain, old, regular abuse is soooo much better.

*That'll never happen, so what does that make me?? A useless dreamer??? *
Tough riddle.
I'll guess Yes?
 
Originally posted by tony1

It is far more dangerous to live in a communist country than in the US.
Few Americans are living with a 10% risk of getting killed by their own government, whereas every single resident of communist countries is living with that.
Taken out of context, yes you're right. Felix in my opinion was talking of civilians not of the government.

They're many of cities in the US where you must fear the 12 year old standing on the corner. He may be selling drugs and have his Tech9 tucked in his baggy jeans. Then they have to fear the '64 Impala creeping down the street at 2 miles per hour. You at least have a warning in the war zone, say... round the clock machine gun fire, falling artillery shell sound, exploding hand grenades... you know you are in a war zone.

Given your sarcastic tone, I see your point, read it as fast as you can, write the first thing that pops to mind, throw in some biblical quotes, and call it a day. DUDE, TAKE THE TIME TO SMELL THE INCENSE. People are taking the time to post a reply, give them the courtesy of fully reading it, in their intended context.

Have a nice day:)
 
Tony,

So you understand the Bible to say that the wicked will just go out of existance eventually?

Why hasn't Satan burned up into nothing?

Have you compiled Bible studies? I'd be interested in reading them to compare notes.

Ben
 
Tony, it is sunday.
Please go to your church, say your prayers.
Damn us, devils of the forums and leave us alone.

Your everlasting quotes from bible and people here on the forums are getting very irritating.

By my means, you are the DEVIL of the forums, SO GO TO CHURCH.
For it is sunday, f**k of to your temple, you craze....

Nice things to quote me again, not? That's all you can do, quote your little bible and quote us.
I get the feeling you have nothing to write of yourself..........

Careful you don't burn in church!!!!
 
Originally posted by tony1
It is far more dangerous to live in a communist country than in the US.
Few Americans are living with a 10% risk of getting killed by their own government, whereas every single resident of communist countries is living with that.[/B]
So 100 million Chinese alive today are going to be killed by their government? Where'd you come up with that figure?
 
*Originally posted by DEVILDOG
Taken out of context, yes you're right. Felix in my opinion was talking of civilians not of the government.
*

As I understand "context," in its most literal meaning it refers to text.
But let's take the more general view that "context" for the average person is the country they live in.

How being killed by your own government is "out of context" is something only you would "know."

*They're many of cities in the US where you must fear the 12 year old ... fear the '64 Impala creeping down the street at 2 miles per hour. You at least have a warning in the war zone, say... round the clock machine gun fire, falling artillery shell sound, exploding hand grenades... you know you are in a war zone. *

Not many people are aware of this but where murder is concerned, around 80% of murders are blacks killing other blacks.
If you aren't black, you're risk is quite low.
Even if you are black and you don't hang around ghettos (or the war zones), your risk is still very low.

*People are taking the time to post a reply, give them the courtesy of fully reading it, in their intended context.*

I'm giving people the courtesy of discussing the context, too.

It is all well and good to make a point which depends on a myopic POV, on the sun being just so above the horizon, and your left hand being located on the asdf keys, and holding your tongue just right, but such points are usually pretty much worthless.

Granted, felix was about to score some BIG points about the US being so bad, but the US just isn't all that bad.
Most countries are far worse.
It just plain does not matter if the finger that pulls the trigger on the gun that kills you belongs to a government official or some 12-year-old.
You are dead either way.
In communist countries, it is more likely to be an official, AND you are a LOT more likely to die there than here.

*Originally posted by KalvinB
So you understand the Bible to say that the wicked will just go out of existance eventually?
*

You don't need to concern yourself with my understanding; you can read it for yourself.

But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
(Psalms 37:20, KJV).

And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
(Malachi 4:3, KJV).

As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.
(Psalms 68:2, KJV).

For our God is a consuming fire.
(Hebrews 12:29, KJV).

Therefore they shall be as the morning cloud, and as the early dew that passeth away, as the chaff that is driven with the whirlwind out of the floor, and as the smoke out of the chimney.
(Hosea 13:3, KJV).

For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
(Revelation 6:17, KJV).

Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.
(Jeremiah 5:14, KJV).

Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven in the time of thine anger: the LORD shall swallow them up in his wrath, and the fire shall devour them.
(Psalms 21:9, KJV).

Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
(Jude 1:7, KJV).

And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
(2 Peter 2:6, KJV).


*Why hasn't Satan burned up into nothing? *

He is still busy...

Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand.
(Psalms 109:6, KJV).

*Have you compiled Bible studies?*

For some things.
 
tony1
I'm new here but I can't figure out what the hell you are?
The catholics have killed more people than have ever lived in the U.S.
Yeah You bible quoting idiot.
Easy to talk. What is the "something" that everyone is supposed to do
Easy stop quoting things from a book that the planet never read and help to make her grow and thrive. otherwise your soapbox will be gone. Pretty simple HUH?
If there is anything I'm against, it is "terrible misabuse." Just plain, old, regular abuse is soooo much better.
Oh your Catholic Sorry. Sarcasm suits you well.
Tough riddle. I'll guess yes?
There is no such thing as a useless dreamer . I hate to say it but you wouldn't have a soapbox to stand on unless some "useless dreamer" gave it to you. Prove that wrong. Oh try to base it on fact.(Some thing real.) Try not to quote any thing you didn't write,only things we've written, and try to do it with a smile!O.K.
I can't speak for anyone here but myself, but what have you done to help or save any thing but yourself.(If I spread the word I'll go to heaven.) Dude if your there I don't want to be! Later Bye!
Banshee
I'm glad you feel I could be part of a solutions but like you I'm kind of lost as to what we could do. I think about it a lot but it becomes quite overwhelming.Ass wipes like TONY1 Will question what we have done for this cause the whole time just doing that question what we have done, while he him self sits with his quoting machine in one hand and his other on the keyboard offering nothing! Doing nothing!
(Sorry but I don't even remember the topic, again I apologize!)
 
bad choice of words tony1

Originally posted by tony1
Not many people are aware of this but where murder is concerned, around 80% of murders are blacks killing other blacks.

So does this make the murders any less significant? Did the grand wizard teach you that? I guess the burning of the cross is for illumination, like the symbol used by the methodist church too, right?

Originally posted by tony1
If you aren't black, you're risk is quite low.Even if you are black and you don't hang around ghettos (or the war zones), your risk is still very low.

I used to live in a predominately white rural subdivision, about 85% white. Three houses down from my house a man was killed by a friend of his with an AK47 over $800.00 that was owed to him. Those bullets knew no color, the house behind his had holes in the refrigerator from stray bullets. 37 shell casings were recovered, fired by one man, now how exactly do the bullets know they're intended target? I was three houses away, roughly 150 FEET, not very far considering a bullet from an AK47 can travel 150 YARDS in about three seconds. Not to mention the fact that the guy was chasing him around the house firing, not even aiming. He was shooting from the hip. Now explain to me in layman's terms the point you were trying to make?
 
WHAT???!!! Black different?

Man, are you a craze Tony, you mean to say that is more black people who fight or something like that???

That neighbourhoods are more dangerous??

So a racist too.......Why don't I wonder about that??
 
Since when are statistics racist?

An example of a white man killing a white man. Well that just proves...wait...

Did Tony say that white people don't kill white people? Did he claim that predominatly white subdivisions are crime free zones?

Ben
 
*Originally posted by Patman
Easy stop quoting things from a book that the planet never read and help to make her grow and thrive. otherwise your soapbox will be gone. Pretty simple HUH?
*

Perhaps you can't read.

Banshee suggested we DO something.
You say to STOP.

Doing and NOT doing are opposites.

*I could be part of a solutions but like you I'm kind of lost as to what we could do.*

Quite the solution you have there, Patman.

Standing around with a stunned look on your face really helps a lot.

*Originally posted by DEVILDOG
I used to live in a predominately white rural subdivision, about 85% white. Three houses down from my house a man was killed
*

That accounts for one murder.

*Originally posted by Banshee
That neighbourhoods are more dangerous??
*

Are you brand new?
 
Brand new, like a newborn baby!!!

I will take it back, Tony, I called you a racist. I will take that back, I do mis understand sometimes.
That's where the devil comes in again I guess, tell me....

And yes, I am brand new........I know what people's natures are.
They are not so good and lot of people do mistrust eachother.
Sometimes you have to let that go and try again.
Or you have to prefer that being alone is what you want.

People have taken advantage of me enough now, so I watch out.
But it's better to have 1 real good friend, then 10 you do not trust entirely.

So my friend and I have a good relationship, and then I know others who are just acquaintances.
That's enough.
She is a good friend and so it will be fine.
No trouble. And fighting is everywhere, even here, I am not a fool you know.
I am getting so tired of this Tony, can't you reply yourself for once and not quote from your bible please......
 
Tony1
Banshee suggested we do something.You say STOP. Doing and Not doing are opposites.
I said to stop quoting from your bible. Because like you it hasn't done anything meaningful to help yet.
Perhaps YOU can't read.
Quite the solution you have there, Patman. Standing around with a stunned look on your really helps a lot
First off I never said I had the answers, but I am willing to be part of a solution if one where to arise. We obviously know you don't have the answers because if you did you would have posted it instead of slamming me.
Second, Tony stop furiously looking through the pages in your book because the answer isn't there because if it was we wouldn't be in this S**t. Tony even if we came up with a solution, if it didn't fit the parameters of your little world you wouldn't be a part of it anyway. Get off the soapbox and save the WORLD! (wannabe preacher Look at me i spread the word of God, i'll go to heaven for sure!) While the world still suffers and you offer nothing.
 
This was exactly a good answer to Tony, Patman.

I want to agree with you, but I don't need to be blessed by what god so ever Tony-boy.
:)
 
Pray for peace in Jerusalem! Pray to GOD for reveling of His majesty and Power and love to all the races of the world!:) Have meaning and purpose in life! Trust JESUS!!
 
Oh my god!

Welcome to you Sir Loon, sure you wrote it right, I guess you mixed some letters and you forgot something. I do not have anything to add here, but this:
Oh, my god, another one, with bible and so on.

Man, oh man, You stay acting this way I can't type any more from laughing. I am falling down my chair because of the two of you...

Praise the lord, hallelujah, we have another sacred, bible-quoting loon on our way.....

May the Banshee bless you both......
:p
Bless you...
 
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