As it was stated the Holy Spirit is God. God is Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit. To go and explain the whole idea to you, I truly can't because I can't understand it fully, however that doesn't make it false. To answer your question, No. But there is some form of command. Notice how Jesus does things under the authority of the Father and the Holy Spirit does things under the authority of the Father and Jesus. I hope that helps you.
Sorda of.
To SetiAlpha6:
I am not offened by your sarcasm or some of your wise cracks. I am fully aware how that plays out in debates and am for it. I am offened when people mock God. I understand there is some comic understanding of God, however some people take it to the extreme. This is one of the things I find sad about sciforums. Some people are more enthusiastic to belittle and offend than to actually debate. LoL But I am provided hope from some. You have debated with me and I ask you has my sarcasm belittled you or offended you? Anyway if what Adstar was saying was true, which I believe it is but for discussion sake I say if, would you not find it nice if not loving what he is doing? The truth is you would appreciate it. Also this whole turning the cheek thing I want to address. Jesus didn't mean if someone hits you repeatedly and wants you to die or hurt you you just sit there, that would be stupid, unless there was reason. Anyway Adstar just came across mean he in no way meant to offend you, or thats what I believe.
To Adstar:
They are offended and aggrivated when we say some stuff. I would just advise that you be careful not to offend because that hurts our witness. Not trying to call you out I am just stating the obvious. Other than that I am behind you. Also I how do you see the beginning of John talking about the Holy Spirit?
Thank you,
His son,
><>Warrior61<><
Warrior
You prompted SetiAlpha6 and i to continue our discussion beyond the point of profit. What happens when a discussion goes beyond the point of profit? People start repeating themselves and sometimes try to use personal attacks.
I was wise to end the discussion with SetiAlpha6 when i did and was foolish to engage with her after she responded to your prompting to peruse the discussion beyond the point of profit. All that happens when you persist with someone when they have rejected your message is they turn around and tear into you with lies and vitriol. Like the following:
Adstar, has called me an antichrist,
As you and i know Warrior as one who has rejected the Messiah Jesus SetiAlpha6 is indeed an anti-christ.
and he has personally condemned me and many others to hell on numerous occasions. When do you think God gave him the authority to do this?
A clear lie.. As we both know Warrior, Christians do not have any such power to condemn anyone to hell. This power has always been in the hands of God and always will be. I have never condemned anyone to hell. I have shared my fears for some on this forum and given warning to others. But expressing a fear or giving a warning is not condemning someone to hell. But as we know those who are out to attack the Word of God will take any opportunity to twist what we say in an attempt to portray us in the worst possible light as they can.
I just forgive him for the way he treats me and I move on.
Lets see if she will do this will we?????
Now to your points Warrior:
To Adstar:
They are offended and aggrivated when we say some stuff.
I would just advise that you be careful not to offend because that hurts our witness. Not trying to call you out I am just stating the obvious. Other than that I am behind you.
Luke 6:22
Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake.
John 15:18
“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
John 15:19
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
If your giving the Word of God and you find that everyone is liking you and they all think your a wonderful guy then you can know for sure that there is something wrong with your witnessing Warrior.
The Word of God offends Warrior there is no way around that fact. People Hate the Word of God and project their hatred against those who give the Word of God. They hate us because we love what they hate.
I cannot control the way others react to the Word of God and by extension how they react to me. If people choose to get angry and vilify me then that is their choice, they can feel the stress and angst that hate gives to the ones who embrace it with much enthusiasm. They can have their cancer stick. It is their choice.
Also I how do you see the beginning of John talking about the Holy Spirit?
The beggining of John is the best revelation of the nature of Jesus that we are going to get in written form on planet earth i guess. Having said that i am in the same boat as you. That it is bejond human reasoning to understand the nature of the relationship between the 3 who are 1. Now i could be wrong about that, the Holy Spirit may one day give me understanding on that if God wills it and if it is possable for me to understand it in my currect form.
I lean towards the God is one who has manifested Himself in 3 different forms. But then again i do not state that as a statement of faith kind of thing. Its a hunch thats all.
All Praise The Ancient Of Days
