Stun guns and cops.

Should cops use stun guns?

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Should cops use stun guns? yes
Should cops use lead bullets? yes
Should cops use guns? yes
Should cops kill evil? yes
 
leopold99 said:
they have weak bodies.

why aren't you getting your panties in a bunch about all the deaths caused by aspirin or penicillin? the cops didn't cause it?
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Aspirin and penicillin are not meant to cause pain or torture.

It seems you cannot tell the difference between deliberately causing pain and sporadic drug reactions.
 
Oniw17 said:
Do you know what they do when someone gets probated to go to a mental hospital? You know, when they come pick the person up. When they freak out, it's hardly non-violent.
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bullshit oniw17 i've worked in a mental hospital some of these vegetables are so violent they must be restrained at all times, that's right we have to feed them and clean up after them.
thanks to organizations like the ACLU and amnesty int. euthanizing them is inhumane. these retards live their entire life restrained so who is being inhumane?
 
draqon said:
Should cops use stun guns? yes
Should cops use lead bullets? yes
Should cops use guns? yes
Should cops kill evil? yes
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Welcome to the future:
Weapons that can incapacitate crowds of people by sweeping a lightning-like beam of electricity across them are being readied for sale to military and police forces in the US and Europe.

At present, commercial stun guns target one person at a time, and work only at close quarters. The new breed of non-lethal weapons can be used on many people at once and operate over far greater distances.

But human rights groups are appalled by the fact that no independent safety tests have been carried out, and by their potential for indiscriminate use.

The weapons are designed to address the perceived shortcomings of the Taser, the electric-shock gun already used by 4000 police departments in the US and undergoing trials with some police forces in the UK.

It hits the victim with two darts that trail current-carrying wires, which limit its range to a maximum of seven metres (see graphic). As a single shot, short-range weapon, the Taser is of little use in crowd control. And Tasers have no effect on vehicles.
Ionised gas

These limitations are beginning to be overcome. Engineers working for the US Department of Defense's research division, DARPA, and defence companies in Europe have been working out how to create an electrically conductive path between a gun and a target without using wires.

A weapon under development by Rheinmetall, based in Dorf, Germany, creates a conducting channel by using a small explosive charge to squirt a stream of tiny conductive fibres through the air at the victim (New Scientist print edition, 24 May 2003).

Meanwhile, Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems (XADS), based in Anderson, Indiana, will be one of the first companies to market another type of wireless weapon. Instead of using fibres, the $9000 Close Quarters Shock Rifle projects an ionised gas, or plasma, towards the target, producing a conducting channel. It will also interfere with electronic ignition systems and stop vehicles.

"We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep," claims XADS president Peter Bitar.
Solid-state lasers

The gun has been designed for the US Marine Corps to use for crowd control and security purposes and is due out in 2005. It is based on early, unwieldy technology and has a range of only three metres, but an operator can debilitate multiple targets by sweeping it across them for "as long as there is an input power source," says Bitar.

XADS is also planning a more advanced weapon which it hopes will have a range of 100 metres or more. Instead of firing ionised gas, it will probably use a powerful laser to ionise the air itself. The idea has been around for decades, says LaVerne Schlie, a laser expert at the US Air Force Research Lab in Kirtland, New Mexico. It has only become practical with advances in high-power solid-state lasers.

"Before, it took a laser about the size of two trucks," says Schlie. "Now we can do it with something that fits on a tabletop."

The laser pulse must be very intense, but can be brief. So the makers of the weapons plan to use a UV laser to fire a 5-joule pulse lasting just 0.4 picoseconds - equating to a momentary power of more than 10 million megawatts.

This intense pulse - which is said not to harm the eyes - ionises the air, producing long, thread-like filaments of glowing plasma that can be sustained by repeating the pulse every few milliseconds. This plasma channel is then used to deliver a shock to the victims similar to a Taser's 50,000-volt, 26-watt shock.
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samcdkey said:
Aspirin and penicillin are not meant to cause pain or torture.

It seems you cannot tell the difference between deliberately causing pain and sporadic drug reactions.
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go cry on someone elses shoulder sam.
i've read the stuff i agree with 1/57th of it.

a taser isn't a torture device you dumbfuck.
 
leopold99 said:
go cry on someone elses shoulder sam.
i've read the stuff i agree with 1/57th of it.

a taser isn't a torture device you dumbfuck.
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Have you tried it on your self then? You seem pretty certain of its effects.

PS. No one is forcing you to post here.
 
leopold99 said:
it will bring you to your knees rather quickly.

a part of training for some police is to be tased, so there are more than a few cops who know exactly what it's like.
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How many times do they try it? One? two? seven?

And are all cops who use tasers trained?
 
samcdkey said:
How many times do they try it? One? two? seven?

And are all cops who use tasers trained?
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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/201683_tasercop30.html

"Cops call Taser a lifesaver"

you can also use this device:
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draqon said:
which would you choose lead bullet in your veins or being taser-shot?:bugeye:
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Are those the only two options available? Seems like cops are as helpless as untrained citizens, without a weapon.
 
samcdkey said:
How many times do they try it? One? two? seven?
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don't know but in the air force study pigs have been shot 18 times, not one died.
furthermore there hasen't been a single case of a taser as the sole cause of death.
in the majority the 'victims' had drugs in their system or had heart problems neither of which is the fault of the cop.

And are all cops who use tasers trained?
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they must be.
 
leopold99 said:
don't know but in the air force study pigs have been shot 18 times, not one died.
furthermore there hasen't been a single case of a taser as the sole cause of death.
in the majority the 'victims' had drugs in their system or had heart problems neither of which is the fault of the cop.
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a link?
And has a study been conducted by an independent group with no conflict of interest?


they must be.
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Is this part of the training?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400021/posts

Tuesday, May 10, 2005

Police used Taser on pregnant driver
Woman convicted of refusing to obey Seattle officers

By HECTOR CASTRO
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

She was rushing her son to school. She was eight months pregnant. And she was about to get a speeding ticket she didn't think she deserved.

So when a Seattle police officer presented the ticket to Malaika Brooks, she refused to sign it. In the ensuing confrontation, she suffered burns from a police Taser, an electric stun device that delivers 50,000 volts.

"Probably the worst thing that ever happened to me," Brooks said, in describing that morning during her criminal trial last week on charges of refusing to obey an officer and resisting arrest.

She was found guilty of the first charge because she never signed the ticket, but the Seattle Municipal Court jury could not decide whether she resisted arrest, the reason the Taser was applied.

To her attorneys and critics of police use of Tasers, Brooks' case is an example of police overreaction.
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Anyways today in my U newspaper, I read that some student was shot with taser in UCLA.
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...I believe it is all for the better. The police did the right thing.
 
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