Prince_James said:
ozzie:
What foundation do you have for the pineal gland being the source of this?
As to the rest of the theory:
Extremely interesting, but I must also ask why, if the conscious mind is willing to experience something, that the internal processes would block the experience? Moreover, isn't schizophrenia a bit different than simple "extordinary experiences"? These people have visual and auditory hallucinations, seemingly stemming from an internal, not external, source.
More questions:
In what way are we "one entity"?
In what way is individuality illusional?
How can your pineal gland "superimpose" over anyone elses?
It is really proper to conclude that the glands of the body are related to the energy epicentres of yogic thought?
As a whole:
What do you think would be the impact on your theories if this test continues as it is, that is, persists in being a negative? Whilst certainly not the end of all tests we can do on this - ndeed, after the test I have some proposals for further inquiry, as well as other tess entirely - it would certainly demonstrate something, no?
As the validity of my reasoning is steeped in a phenonema that has yet to recognised as valid any attempt I make at rationalising it's physics is going to inspire questions that can never be answered to your satisfaction.
If you go to the Theosophical societies headquarters in New York [240 & 242 East 53 Street] and have a look at the book shop or library, you will find tens of thousands of books, charts and mystical artifacts that all attempt to explain the physics of mind and body and our interconnectivity. There is an enourmous amount of literature to plow through and try and understand.
From aroma therapy to iridology, acupuncture to reflexology, Eastern Mysticism to eastern mysticism [ ha ] you name it it will be represented on the shelves. And yet not one has achieved mainstream scientific acceptance.
Possibly I am over generalising.
THis telepathic trial has many motivations behind it.
The first is to attempt to answer the question:
"Why is it so difficut to prove the reality of the psychic realm in a way that satisfies mainstream science and medicine?"
It is not sufficient enough to know that enourmous numbers of persons have had direct experience of it, literally millions of persons have some story to tell yet none can prove it in a way that is logically consistant and scientifically testable. [ esp. regards to predictablility and repeatability]
For me it is not a question of the reality of the psychic realm but a question of why it is not able to be proven. I think this is a more productive question than to simply state that it can't be proven because it doesn't exist beyond imagination.
So you ask what would failure of this current trial demonstrate?
Whilst it may not meet our requirements for proof it is just another step in answering the question about why it can't be proven.
In theory the psychic realm is constantly being proven as a part of normal every day expereince. The psychic realm is what makes our conscious existence function. In most cases this psychic functionality is normal but every now and then an anomolly will occur and spark an interest in what makes reality tick.
The thing that is important it realise is that once a certain aspect of normal psychic function is realised the person who has realised it now has a diminished state of consciousness, because what was once subconscious is now conscious and subject to the deliberate will of that person. So that person has gained conscious awareness of the function but lost subconscious or
autonomic functionality of that function.
What was once automatic is now a mix of deliberate and semi deliberate. Thus his mental state is already compromised to a lower functionality that that of a person who has not realised it. A piece of the subconscious puzzle is now missing from the subconcious as it is now conscious.
When a person uncovers some of the physics involved the truth has a profound effect on that persons conscious life, this effect normally puts the person on the mystical fringe of society. If that personis successful in achieveing balance he may become an astologer or a tarot reader, or decide to write books on his experience and so on. If the person doesn't achieve balance and the experience of fundamentals of consciousness are too profound he will end up usually very sick indeed as his mind tries to reconcile that experience and funtion whilst missing the autonomic or automatic subconscious element.
It is little wonder that the psychic realm has never been proven to be a reality even though it is the reality. Possibly because we are attempting to prove something that is inherantly uncontrolable enough to afford repeatability and predictability.