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Sure because there is no 'Book of Atheism' so to speak. But if you understand that the Universe is meaningless- all of you and any all you make is just as meaningless- This is the fundamental Truth that Atheism portrays.
No Theism does give a shit, and people who believe in it give a shit because of it- Not all, but many people. Atheism doesn't give a shit like you said
Peace be unto you.
Yup, deal with it. I deal with it by finding beauty in nature, by helping out my fellow people who are all here in the same boat as feeling human individuals, by contemplating the mysterious origins of the physical world...
Your argument is avoiding a very important point, which I have mentioned several times already. Atheism doesn't eliminate meaning in life. It only eliminates the false purposes and meanings revolving around religious mythology.
And so are you..
Peace be unto you
I'm not an Atheist- but yes by your understanding of the universe I am biodegradable junk- So Atheism has no prohibition if everything is destroyed- Great.... :shrug:
Peace be unto you
Enmos
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Really? Atheism says nothing about that either. Atheism just does not agree with the notion of God. That's it.
Theism doesn't give a shit, theists may.
Irrelevant. Atheism doesn't have anything to do with whether someone give a shit or not.Atheism doesn't give a shit like you said
There are no prohibitions in religion either, since there is no God to enforce it. In fact, religious people tend to blow things up in far greater numbers than non-religious people. We have the example of Islamic suicide bombers, Aztec human sacrifices, The Crusades, etc...
Theism mandates taking this life seriously and so 'give a shit'. Atheism doesn't because the fundamental truth Atheism teaches is that everything and anything you do is meaningful in the big picture of the universe.
Peace be unto you
Its not about dealing with anything... Its to say that Atheism makes everything legal- because its just as meaningless as an illegal act-
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Enmos
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So you only take this life seriously because theism says you should?
What would you be without theism??From that perspective I can see why you can't wrap your mind around the fact that people do give a shit about life without some myth telling them to.
Pathetic!
Atheism doesn't teach that and nor do I see how it would be relevant to the issue at hand if it did.
Really? Can you read between the lines
Theism does give a shit, and theists also may give a shit.
Its what it 'portrays'. Just as spidergoat said the universe is meaningless- you may create your individual meaning but that is still meaningless.
Peace be unto you
So you only take this life seriously because theism says you should?
From that perspective I can see why you can't wrap your mind around the fact that people do give a shit about life without some myth telling them to.
Pathetic!
You are confusing two SEPARATE things:
1. Does Atheism give a shit?
2. Do Atheists give a shit?
I'm talking about number 1, and you are talking about number 2. Atheism doesn't give a shit even if Atheists do. I'm not talking about if the people care or not. I'm talking about the fundamental belief system.
The issue is about Atheism- so its completely relevant.
Peace be unto you
Enmos
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Well, you are obviously a lost cause.Really? Can you read between the lines
Theism does give a shit, and theists also may give a shit.
Its what it 'portrays'. Just as spidergoat said the universe is meaningless- you may create your individual meaning but that is still meaningless.
Peace be unto you
Have a nice day
Well, you are obviously a lost cause.
Have a nice day
Its not even about me: Atheism doesn't give a shit about anything..... simple
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You have to be joking me. I have continuously said Atheism doesn't give a shit. I've been trying to point out that Atheism sees the whole universe as pointless and so everything in it. Atheists may come up with their own meaning but ATHEISM has no say into the meaning of life- for all Atheism sees is that you are all meaningless biodegradable junk
Peace be unto you
Its not about dealing with anything... Its to say that Atheism makes everything legal- because its just as meaningless as an illegal act-
Peace be unto you
Ultimately, yes, there is no "Book of Life" in which all our actions are written for all eternity. However, there are human laws and rights which we acknowledge.
By analogy, there is no ultimate art, but there is art. There is no ultimate universal music, but there is music. There is no ultimate love, but there is human love. Atheism is compatable with these ideas.
Enmos
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So what? What's your point then?You have to be joking me. I have continuously said Atheism doesn't give a shit. I've been trying to point out that Atheism sees the whole universe as pointless and so everything in it. Atheists may come up with their own meaning but ATHEISM has no say into the meaning of life- for all Atheism sees is that you are all meaningless biodegradable junk
Peace be unto you
As long as you have people who practice the religion then they prohibit themselves from certain actions because of their religion- so the prohibitions are in the religion. It is not God that enforces those prohibitions- because religion teaches that the enforcer has to be you, yourself.
As for the killing..... its not even about people. Its about the fundamental understanding. Theism places an inherent meaning in life, while Atheism takes life inherently meaningless..If you are a theist and then use religion to prohibit yourself- then there is a meaning to it fundamentally.
If you are an Atheist and then make up your own meaning- fundamentally it is all meaningless.
Peace be unto you
You as an Atheist acknowledge them but under Atheism these laws are just as meaningless- so why should anyone, say I, respect your laws- I can create my own laws- and Atheism has nothing to say about this.
Atheism is only compatible because it says nothing about them. But the fundamental truth is- the art is meaningless, the love is meaningless, the music is meaningless.
Peace be unto you