Osama Bin Laden is Dead
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The picture of "Osama" should be coming out any day soon.
I wonder if it will be made by the same people who made the Obama Birth Certificate.
What is the US Government up to these days?
see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk
I wonder if it will be made by the same people who made the Obama Birth Certificate.
What is the US Government up to these days?
see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk
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Bells
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Everything.
Summary execution would have amounted to his being made to kneel down, beg for his sorry life and shot through the back of the head. Instead he was shot face on in the middle of a fire fight. In short, he did not surrender and was thus shot.
Nope.
One is an animal whom I would not even classify as a human being.
*Shrugs*
Of course.
You'd just kill with your bare hands.
Then again, you don't seem to believe the Americans have actually killed him. So it's sort of a moot point for you, isn't it?
woo woo!
A badge I'll wear with honor around here apparently.
You tell 'em Captain, I gotta go for now.
And those explosives were set off by... yeah, you guessed it - Elvis!
The picture of "Osama" should be coming out any day soon.
I wonder if it will be made by the same people who made the Obama Birth Certificate.
What is the US Government up to these days?
see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk
I like that some people will put Infowars bumper stickers on their cars. It's nice to know what cars to stay clear of because the owners are mentally ill.
AJ may be loopy, but that doesn't mean he's always wrong.
Listen to what the Techie said, and then comment.
He said that the document was photoshopped.
Techies never lie about computers. Not unless their mothers have been kidnapped.
The Techie took the document directly from the government website, saved it, and then showed that it was layered.
Unless there was some deliberate fraud by AJ's people, and that document did not come from the US website,
then the document has been photoshopped.
If it is genuinely from the Government site, other people will have it.
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It looks like it was photocopied onto official stock, that doesn't make it unofficial.
STATUTORY WARNING : NOT AN EXPERT!!!!
I just looked at the PDF file
IMO, the layers you see are what normally results when you scan a document into an image file then run it through an optimisation program which runs OCR to convert it to a PDF filetype - usually this makes bandwidth sense because image files are huge and PDF files are compressed into a tenth of the image size
You can try it. I did it with a Canon scanner to scan a document then OCR'd with Able 2 Extract which converts the gif into pdf
I find it absurd that all these "experts" are criticising the product without once attempting to replicate the process
One of the few principles of the scientific method: reproducibility
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Typical SAM.
Sticking up for Obama again.
Sticking up for Obama again.
Weren't the US people rejoicing over his death just like the Muslims did when news got out that all that remained of the WTC was ashes and debris?
So what?
Yeah right.
But this is what I consider as an example of the failure of imagination.
A photoshop expert is pretty redundant when it comes to evaluating a scanned document. What you need is someone who will recognise that instead of criticising the end product they first need to assess if the problem is an artifact of the process. I frequently scan documents so I know that it is not possible to get a direct pdf from a scanner - you get an image file - depending on the quality of the document and the scanner, the image file looks exactly the same/distorted/grubby with background noise.
Most of all its a huge gif or tiff file which is a pain to upload and download and will definitely affect server traffic if a lot of people are interested.
So next step, convert it into a form which looks cool on print while being minimal in size. Best bet [and all graduate students discover this when printing their thesis] is a portable document format or pdf. This is a great format because what you see [on screen] is what you get [on paper]. No widow/orphan control, no pagination issues, no resizing of fonts or images, no formatting or margin problems. Picture perfect documents.
Problem is to get from an image to a pdf, the machine has to "read" the picture and "recognise" the symbols i.e. Optical character recognition This is usually not a problem when the original document is written or drawn on a computer. Scanned images however, can acquire a life of their own and the computer often guesses what the symbols represent. If you have a lot of background noise you can acquire a load of rubbish symbols which distort your final dpcument out of recognition. This is what happened with parts of the BC in the pdf.
Now a photoshop expert will clearly have no clue about all of the above. His worldview is limited to what he knows of photoshop alone
Sorry. I started to respond last night, but realized I could possibly sleep. I "suffer" severe insomnia, so must take advantage of sleepiness whenever possible.
I haven't perused his more recent stuff on 9/11. But more importantly--to me, at least--Chomsky has recently revised some of his most fundamental thoughts regarding language (what language is, specifically): he now concedes that non-human animals do, in fact, "possess" language and are capable of languaging.
In a word, anti-representationalism. In every conceivable sense. (Hmmm. Not bad. I could work for Fox news.)Eh? What goobleygookley you talk about?
Postructuralist anarchism in a soundbite is .... ????
Continue this dialog, I like to be mind-raped!
It's as committed to the elimination of power, capitalism, and inequality as any anarchism, albeit with a very different take on power. Think rhizomes and not trees--overlapping and intersecting nodes of power, etc. rather than simplistic concentrations. Also "power" isn't just plain bad, it needs countered and redirected. Likewise, this stance is taken towards it's own foundations, i.e. noone "speaks" for anyone or anything in particular--Kropotkin, Bakunin, Stirner, et al, are great for historical perspective and ideas, but hardly representative.
Practically, think of contemporary anti-globalization "movements" and actions. Or take something like Earth Liberation Front or Animal Liberation Front for example: noone is a "member" of ELF or ALF, precisely because there are no such organizations. They are sets of ideas and ideals which are promulgated via the internets, songs, leaflets, art, whatever, and individuals spontaneously coalesce and act upon these (and get branded as domestic "terrorist" number one by dumbass authorities who seemingly have no idea as to how in the dark they are).
For a concise overview contrasting Marxism, classical, and poststructuralist anarchism see Dave Morland's fine essay, "Anti-capitalism and postructuralist anarchism." For a bit of convolution, that doesn't require fluency in Deleuzean, see anything by Todd May.
Categories are convenient and save having to do real work.
No. Even with multiaxis models, such will inevitably fall apart somewhere. I mean, personally I kinda like the Pournelle chart--but according to Pournelle's own mapping, why the fuck is Ayn Rand in the same corner as Max Stirner?!
What do you think will make these
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Just saying. . . I wouldn't be at all surprised if your analysis is correct. They want to install western banking in Libya and end engagement in Afghanistan now that the mission is complete there. A good false-flag biological attack in a French, English, or U.S. city would do it. And the French and English public are to smart to let their governments and the elites that control them get away with the nastiness that goes on in the U.S. Lets hope the TPTB aren't that stupid and evil.
The then again, they obviously never heard, "let sleeping dogs lie and leave your skeletons in the closet." I can't believe they did this.
Janus58
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This is about as silly as the argument from those that say that because there are no stars in the sky in pictures taken during the Moon landing, that this is evidence that the Moon landings were fake. As if the government is going to go to all the trouble and expense to "fake" Moon landings and then forget to include stars in the sky.
The same thing holds for the birth certificate. If you are going to fake it, you are not going to be so clumsy as to do it using something like photoshop.
We will keep removing oppressive dictators or encouraging their own citizens to do so until there aren't any more left.