ehhhhhhhh... I don't know about that. Rather, I'd say "we" are kinda "selective" in this regard.
Osama Bin Laden is Dead
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ehhhhhhhh... I don't know about that. Rather, I'd say "we" are kinda "selective" in this regard.
The picture of "Osama" should be coming out any day soon.
I wonder if it will be made by the same people who made the Obama Birth Certificate.
What is the US Government up to these days?
see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk
The thing about this video? It assumes that NO one has seen the PHYSICAL copy. I saw the speech where Obama says they faxed it to him. So I guess Jones just has to fly to Hawaii to hold it in his hot little hands. I think its real. But if it is just an photo-shop image and not just a show gimmick. . . . ?
Holy shit! I have spent a TON of time on computer graphics programs. Someone spent at least four hours making that. And they had to get a couple people together for the resources. They might have even had to dig up a 1950's typewriter to make it look really authentic, probably not. Wow. Kudos to the forger! :bugeye:
I think if they were going to do it? They should have went to the hospital in Hawaii or looked for the original machinery and looked for some aged paper. In the 1950's, yeah, they really knew how to run a cover up in those day. The good old days.
Ha ha ha ha. Busted. I didn't think anything of it. The whole issue was a non-issue in my world. How stupid.
Breaking News:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13287977
Osama Bin Laden: Photos will not be released - Obama
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13287977
Osama Bin Laden: Photos will not be released - Obama
Sounds like you could use a newer scanner. Your standard HP printer/fax/scanner outputs .pdf by default. Indeed, it requires several minutes of digging through arcane submenus to get the one at my job to output any other format.
It's a complex chess game sometimes. Just look at Pakistan, we know their regime is at least partially sympathetic to Islamic theocratic fascists, but we also get their cooperation in some things, and they would be difficult to remove, especially since they have nukes.
That sucks.
I use a Canon Imageclass which automatically scans an image file, but offers to OCR as well. I actually prefer this option because I scan inter alia, legal and other documents so I prefer to retain original image files on my teradrive. Sometimes I scan old books which are not in digital and those I convert to other formats if I want to make them portable [epub, mobi, msreader] and they frequently require proof reading to correct conversion errors.
I only require PDFs if I need a print output which is not often - usually only if I order hard to find articles from libraries and they send ghastly image files.
This is actually a wise move. Much better not to publish photos than to publish doubtful ones
Maybe a hearing?
This is the United States. The appropriate procedure is that the White House will send the photos and other evidence to Congressional leaders, and some staffer somewhere will polish their feathers by leaking the material to the press.
Or we might be approaching a World's Dumbest Deep Throat moment, and the aide will post it on his blog.
My point being that certain elements of proof will find their way into circulation, eventually.
Hell, if we're really lucky, maybe Rep. McKeon will hold a hearing.
Notes:
"McKeon statement on death of Osama bin Laden". Barstow Desert Dispatch. May 2, 2011. DesertDispatch.com. May 4, 2011. http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/laden-10790-mckeon-osama.html
Ghost 007 said:
This is the United States. The appropriate procedure is that the White House will send the photos and other evidence to Congressional leaders, and some staffer somewhere will polish their feathers by leaking the material to the press.
Or we might be approaching a World's Dumbest Deep Throat moment, and the aide will post it on his blog.
My point being that certain elements of proof will find their way into circulation, eventually.
Hell, if we're really lucky, maybe Rep. McKeon will hold a hearing.
"This is the news we have long waited to hear. As Americans picked themselves up after the terrorist attacks of September Eleventh, President Bush told us that we would get Osama bin Laden. The events of that day affected us all – in California, across America, and among our nation's allies. While it has taken longer than many expected, Osama bin Laden is dead. Bin Laden's death is proof to those terrorists who wish to harm us that they may be able to run and hide but we will get them eventually.
"Our brave military forces and their civilian counterparts who have been working for more than a decade to capture or kill bin Laden have the gratitude of our nation. These warriors have paid tremendous sacrifices during this time, and tonight's announcement should help ease some of those burdens.
"While we celebrate a major victory in one battle against evil, we should recognize that the larger war against terrorism continues. Al-Qaida affiliates in Yemen, Africa and Asia remain dedicated to killing Americans and our allies. We know that even as they mourn the loss of their inspirational leader, they will not waver in their determination to attack us and our way of life. As we rejoice, we must remain vigilant, and continue to support our brave men and women in uniform, as well as our courageous intelligence officers, around the world who serve on the front lines against this determined enemy."
—House Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Buck McKeon
____________________"Our brave military forces and their civilian counterparts who have been working for more than a decade to capture or kill bin Laden have the gratitude of our nation. These warriors have paid tremendous sacrifices during this time, and tonight's announcement should help ease some of those burdens.
"While we celebrate a major victory in one battle against evil, we should recognize that the larger war against terrorism continues. Al-Qaida affiliates in Yemen, Africa and Asia remain dedicated to killing Americans and our allies. We know that even as they mourn the loss of their inspirational leader, they will not waver in their determination to attack us and our way of life. As we rejoice, we must remain vigilant, and continue to support our brave men and women in uniform, as well as our courageous intelligence officers, around the world who serve on the front lines against this determined enemy."
—House Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Buck McKeon
Notes:
"McKeon statement on death of Osama bin Laden". Barstow Desert Dispatch. May 2, 2011. DesertDispatch.com. May 4, 2011. http://www.desertdispatch.com/news/laden-10790-mckeon-osama.html
Thats a redundant question. Note that Khaled Sheikh Mohammed who allegedly carried out the attacks is in custody alive and frequently tortured and waterboarded [last count 180 times]
bin Laden is just the guy who approved of the act.
How many people have been kidnapped to rescue KSM?
They will kidnap people anyway, they would have to know there isn't a chance we would let him go.
Do you really think any reasonable person, knowing what he did, is sheddiing a tear over Khaled's treatment?
LOL
Wake up and join the world where horrendous actions have real consequences.
KSM is small potatoes compared to OBL, although some are claiming that his "enhanced interrogation" ultimately led to OBL after following up on the leads. Maybe in reality he was the highest achiever of all the Al Qaeda members, but symbolically it's all OBL, he's the face of the franchise.
But now I would think there's far less motive to kidnap, given that there's no big prize to be retrieved. The Lebanon 2006 war might have been avoided if Samir Kuntar had been executed instead of sitting in prison for all those years.
Maybe American veterans who were waterboarded by the Japanese in WWII.
And possibly all those victims for whom enhanced interrogation techniques and extrajudicial assassinations will become "normalised" now that precedent has been set
Further, it will be difficult for Americans to argue against the torture of Americans after having globally established it as standard practice
Moreover any Americans executed and waterboarded by their own government without due process will find themselves coming against the glass wall of national security and legal precedent against threats to the same.
Welcome to the American autumn.
It's not a standard practice any more.
Yes his Photoshop guy is on holiday, and won't come back early.
He's watching the whole run of Numbers on DVD.
What utter tripe.
I can see that discussing anything with you is just kind of pointless since your world view is colored by your hatred of the US.
No you missed the memo, and the point. Your poll was of Americans' attitudes about torture, which is quite different than whether or not we torture as a policy.
In one of his first moves after taking office, US President Barack Obama signed an order banning harsh interrogation techniques used since 9/11, which critics have denounced as torture.