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If you are going to be here posting on this subject daily (and others like that) perhaps you should consider if you have over 3,000 views a day since I guess this would kind of be seen as blogging.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28583669
In essence you need to register with Roskomnadzor, of course this site isn't in Russian territory so they'd probably just tell you to stop posting here.
Bells
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If only youreyes would move back to the Motherland..
Tinfoil hat says yo!
It's how he enjoys such a high approval rating. Silence all dissenter's and anyone who dares to speak out against his Government, and lie to the populace and make people believe that all foreigner's are out to get them. Then again, we are talking about a regime that has gone backwards, to the point of imprisoning dissenter's and protester's in psychiatric hospitals (like the good old days), despite clear evidence that he had done nothing wrong except to protest against Putin, so it should not really be that surprising.
It is sad, but true. Even if Mother Russia withdrew her troops from Ukraine tomorrow, Russia cannot not be trusted. Russia (i.e. Putin) is still an autocrat. He still controls the press and now the internet in Russia. He still throws dissidents in gulags and psychiatric hospitals. He is still arming and expanding his military. But now with the western sanctions, Putin's military expansion has become too expensive for Mother Russia. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-expand-worldwide-military-presence-194113119.html
Western oil and gas revenues account for 10% to 16% of Russian GDP, with an economy already in trouble, capital flight, and sanctions, Russia can ill afford to cut off its oil and gas exports. Those same oil and gas exports fund the Russian government, accounting for more than half of government revenues. If Putin ceases Russia's oil and gas exports, he effectively defunds his government and his economy and at a time he can ill afford those cuts. But Putin was never a rational kind of guy as Obama reminded the world last Friday.
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2013/11/24/russia-where-has-all-the-money-gone/
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It appears Donetsk is on the brink of collapse. Russian irregular forces inside the city are looting food and supplies from residents. Additionally, Russian irregular forces admit to carrying out executions to prevent chaos.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/human-remains-recovered-ukraine-site-24819745
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-out-executions-to-prevent-chaos-9644629.html
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/human-remains-recovered-ukraine-site-24819745
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-out-executions-to-prevent-chaos-9644629.html
Fraggle Rocker
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Leave it to the Russians to define looting and murder as something less than "chaos"!
That kind of remark is precisely why propaganda was invented. They'll effortlessly switch gears into all those euphemisms about justifiable use of force, blah blah blah. But after watching the interviews with youreyes' "inserted foreign agents"--esp Muscovite Lt Col Borodai, purportedly elected Prime Minister of the "breakaway Republic"--it's easy to see him condoning the violence. He describes himself as an expert on coming into places destabilized by unrest, and quickly "getting them under control". Of course he never qualified "control" by it's degree of chaos, in fact his remarks overall sound like someone who thrives on chaos. I guess it's sort of a cross between all out anarchism and Soviet-style totalitarianism.
These people are pretty stupid. I mean, this was one of the complaints in the US Declaration of Independence, that the Red(coat)s were appropriating whatever they needed from the locals. That's got to be a no-win situation. Or is it psychological? You would think they could get whatever stuff they need from Putin. So who knows how many levels of subterfuge are going on here.
Putin's troops inside Ukraine are getting their butts kicked by Ukrainian troops. Soon the remaining Russian troops in Donetsk and Luhansk will be forced back across the border. In desperation, Russian artillery and Russian aircraft are crossing the border to attack Ukrainians.
The question now is, will Putin allow his troops in Ukraine fail or will he support them with more Russian troops? Putin is increasing Russian troop levels on the Ukranian border. If Putin chooses the later, sanction hell will rain down on Putin.
It's really a no win situation Putin has created for himself. Putin wanted more international power and respect, instead he is despised. He wanted more docile and militarily weak neighbors, now his neighbors are millitarising. He wanted less NATO influence, and his actions have dramatically increased NATO influence.p
The question now is, will Putin allow his troops in Ukraine fail or will he support them with more Russian troops? Putin is increasing Russian troop levels on the Ukranian border. If Putin chooses the later, sanction hell will rain down on Putin.
It's really a no win situation Putin has created for himself. Putin wanted more international power and respect, instead he is despised. He wanted more docile and militarily weak neighbors, now his neighbors are millitarising. He wanted less NATO influence, and his actions have dramatically increased NATO influence.p
Rasmussen no.2 show me proof they are "Russian troops" and not Ukrainian rebels.
Anyways enough lies from Obama admins and NATO trying to catch the wave to get more funding and expand the alliance. Hopefully Stoltenberg isn't going to be another blackpoker liar.
We have been through this before. You only believe what Comrade Putin tells you and you believe it without question.
and you sir only believe what West propaganda tells you and you believe it without question.
The Western press is free and there is a diversity of opinion in the western press, something one does not see in the Russian press. General Clark today reported Russian troops were operating in Eastern Ukraine. The Russian press and the rebel leaders identify themselves as Russian.
Rebel leaders do not hold Russian citizenship nor does Russia hold troops in Ukranian territory. And if having Russian press inside Ukraine means they are Russian troops, well what do you call American CNN press, American troops?
The question now is how much does Putin want Ukraine? Will he protect his irregular troops in Ukraine with a full scale invasion? He is setting the stage for such an invasion now with a request from his government in Luhansk for a humanitarian Russian occupation - an interesting request from a man whose troops are carrying out executions and looting.
I don’t know what Putin will do. But I don’t see a good outcome for him. He is about to lose face in Eastern Ukraine as his irregular troops there are about to get kicked out of the country unless he sends more troops across the border. In which case sanction hell will rain down on Mother Russia and would devastate an already severely damaged economy. Not to mention, the Ukrainian Army of today is not the Ukrainian Army of a few months ago. I don’t think Russians will be very happy when more and more Russian troops return home in body bags. A significant number of Ukrainians have reported they would fight an insurgency if Russian troops attempted an occupation of Eastern Ukraine.
What does Putin value more, the health and wellbeing of the Russian state and its citizens or his face? My guess is he loves his face more than he does the health and welfare of the Russian people.
I don’t know what Putin will do. But I don’t see a good outcome for him. He is about to lose face in Eastern Ukraine as his irregular troops there are about to get kicked out of the country unless he sends more troops across the border. In which case sanction hell will rain down on Mother Russia and would devastate an already severely damaged economy. Not to mention, the Ukrainian Army of today is not the Ukrainian Army of a few months ago. I don’t think Russians will be very happy when more and more Russian troops return home in body bags. A significant number of Ukrainians have reported they would fight an insurgency if Russian troops attempted an occupation of Eastern Ukraine.
What does Putin value more, the health and wellbeing of the Russian state and its citizens or his face? My guess is he loves his face more than he does the health and welfare of the Russian people.
Russians don't want war with Ukraine but do support the unofficial fight against the current US backed government in Ukraine. Russians fully understand that this war was started by USA and are not planning to withdraw from unofficial support of rebel forces.
Russians know that if they go in hand with what US does now, they will have to pay the price later for whatever agendas US decided to push. US has already collapsed the Soviet Union, we will not have another provocation or instigation of revolution happen on our lands.
It is important to not have Russian army enter Ukraine anytime soon but to prolong this rebels vs US. backed Ukraine government as long as possible. The key for the US to go over its limit on this Ukraine Mandan operation. The enemy must be destroyed at all costs.
Better watch out, the US is under bed at night and in your closet with the boogieman. The US didn’t start the conflict in Ukraine and that is why you have absolutely NO evidence it did. You are just mindlessly repeating what Putin has told you through the very unfree Russian press.
And what agenda would that be exactly? Would it be the same agenda the US pursued with Western Europe and Japan after WWII? Is that what scares you? How did the US collapse the Soviet Union exactly? At some point you need to put on your big boy pants and take accountability for your own actions. And nobody is invading your lands. No one, least of all the US, wants to invade Russia. Your belief otherwise is just good old fashioned Russian paranoia.
I know that is what Putin wants. But that isn’t an option. Russian irregular forces (i.e. rebels) are getting their asses kicked in Ukraine. Within a few weeks those Russian operatives will be forced across the border and back into Mother Russia, unless Russian troops come across the border in mass.
I don’t know what you think the US limit is. It doesn’t make sense. And who is the enemy exactly? And why must it be destroyed at all costs? And why is it the enemy? Please be very specific. Demagogues like to hide in ambiguity.
Rasmussen and Obama can burn in hell. Russia is keeping its troops inside Russian territory.
Well let's hope so. But I think it will be very hard on Putin's ego. Ukrainians have the right if self determination. The Ukrainians, not Russia, not Putin, not Obama, not Merkel, or any other European leader should decide Ukrainian destiny. That is a decision for Ukrainians and Ukrainians alone.
Putin has failed at doing everything he claimed he wanted to accomplish by invading and annexing portions of Ukraine. If Putin doesn't get smart soon, it will just get worse for him and for millions of innocent Russians.
Have you forgotten how this all started? Ukraine had constant economic problems, it's citizens have held jobs that barely let them live, its government has corrupted to the core (overrun by oligarchs), and now it has been infiltrated to the core by US/NATO. Ukrainians have lost the control over their own country.
I remember Russia could have followed the same path if Eltsin did not unanimously appoint Putin to the presidential seat. Since those days, Russia has risen in power, strength, its citizens now enjoy prime wages, healthcare, its economy is now strong and able to compete on international level, its population is now increasing.
No, we will not back down and let US do its hell on yet another country.
I think it is you who needs a refresher. This began when Ukrainians demanded tighter integration with the European Union followed by the assignations ordered by the corrupt pro-Russian Prime Minister (Yanukovych) which ultimately led to the ouster of said prime minister and his flight to Mother Russia for sanctuary. And as for corruption, Mother Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. That is how Putin has amassed a 70 billion dollar fortune on an 80k annual salary.
And do you have any proof Ukraine has been infiltrated by NATO or the US? Of course you don’t because it is just more of that infamous Russian Stalin era paranoia. If NATO had desires on Ukraine, why did NATO turn down Ukraine’s membership request in 2008? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–NATO_relations
And contrary to your assertions and unfortunately for you Ukraine has regained control over its country. It is a much stronger country today that it was just a few short months ago. It has elected a new prime minister and in a few months will elect a new parliament in open and transparent elections – things one does not see in Mother Russia.
Yeltsin was a weak and ineffective leader, a drunk. He appointed Putin who tightened down on dissenters, and doubled down on corruption. Western powers gave Russia the Security Council seat held by the former Soviet Union. The West gave Russia admission to the World Trade Organization and included it in the G7 meetings and eventually offering membership. Further the US government has provided financial aid to the Soviet Union during WWII and since the demise of the Soviet Union. last year the US government gave 72 million in aid to Russia.
The relative economic prosperity Russia has enjoyed since 2000 has been due to its oil and gas exports and the increases in oil and gas prices. The operative word here is “relative”. As we have discussed before Russian wages are paltry compared to those of advanced economies, and the Russian economy is largely a one horse economy, oil and natural gas. Over 70% of Russian exports are oil and natural gas. That isn’t a healthy economy, and the economy is far from stable. It isn’t growing. And with sanctions, it will be declining. The fiscal and economic outlook for Russia is dire per materials previously posted.
As for the rest of your claims, you are deluding yourself. Russian healthcare if far from state of the art, according to the World Health organization it ranks 130 out of 190 countries. On life expectancy, Russian life expectancy ranks 124 out of 190 countries.
And what hell would that be exactly? You are full of bravado, and contradictions. While that might make you feel better, it won’t put food in your belly and clothes on your back.
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