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you do realize most of the world is a signatory to the ottawa treaty and the use of anti personal land mines is kind of a thing only done by rougue nations

what did you say? that ukraine is using illegal phosphorous bombs on civilians and has so far killed at minimum 1000 people as investigated by UN?
 
"Despite the fact that the Ukraine has been all over the news for the past few weeks, a survey found that 64 percent of U.S. students still couldn't find Ukraine on a map. Said Vladimir Putin, 'Soon nobody will.'"

Seth Myers is now your credible source for investigating the civilian plane shootdown?
 
The mines are there to secure the site. period. This entire civilian plane crash has been used to push US agendas in Europe as possible. The focus here is to prevent the alterations at the site by anyone, ukranian armies, US advisors, rebels.

So obviously bullshit.
 
... Keep digging ;)
OK, the entire American Southwest was procured using warfare, sometimes with the assistance of Texan-American separatists. Perhaps it's irrelevant since it was so long ago, but it's nothing different than what the Russians are doing.
 
Seth Myers is now your credible source for investigating the civilian plane shootdown?


No, he seems to be predicting the future of the Ukraine when Russian troops will take it over because Obama won't lift a finger to stop them.
 
No, he seems to be predicting the future of the Ukraine when Russian troops will take it over because Obama won't lift a finger to stop them.

Putin listens to his people and 65% of Russians don't want Russia to have war with the Ukraine's illegitimate army.
 
They are being forced into a civilian war by US/NATO advisors.

Really...do you really believe that? You don't think it has anything to do with the Russian armed invasions and annexation of Ukrainian lands?

In your altered reality, you think people like being invaded, their land taken, and fascist rule?
 
Really...do you really believe that? You don't think it has anything to do with the Russian armed invasions and annexation of Ukrainian lands?

In your altered reality, you think people like being invaded, their land taken, and fascist rule?

Fascist rule is the one enforced now in Kiev by US inserted politicians. So far more than 1,000 civilians dead on the count by UN. True Crimea was part of Ukraine for brief moment of time, but the history of that land has always been part of Russian history and Russian territory and so are the people living in Crimea do not want to live under fascists in Kiev. As far as Donetsk and Lugansk, that is Ukranian land. The people there do not want to be under Kiev authority. Russia does not want Donbass region, it recognizes it as part of Ukraine, but not under the current illegitimately inserted Mandan government.
 
cosmic your not as bad as joepistole, that guy is rusophobe. When I remember you living in Florida as an honor man, not just another US army sheep. please dont break that memory down.

I ask because the way you reply to things seems like you only can see one side of the story and not both.
 
Fascist rule is the one enforced now in Kiev by US inserted politicians. So far more than 1,000 civilians dead on the count by UN. True Crimea was part of Ukraine for brief moment of time, but the history of that land has always been part of Russian history and Russian territory and so are the people living in Crimea do not want to live under fascists in Kiev. As far as Donetsk and Lugansk, that is Ukranian land. The people there do not want to be under Kiev authority. Russia does not want Donbass region, it recognizes it as part of Ukraine, but not under the current illegitimately inserted Mandan government.

Except none of that craps is true. Crimea was Turkish until 1783. And Crimea has been Ukranian land for more than a half century and Russia has signed treaties recognizing Crimea as Ukrainian land. Further the only country which fits the classical definition of fascism is Russia.

Further, Crimea has been Ukranian land for more than a half century. That isn't a brief period of time - as if that were in the least bit relevant.
 
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cosmic your not as bad as joepistole, that guy is rusophobe. When I remember you living in Florida as an honor man, not just another US army sheep. please dont break that memory down.

LOL, you wouldn't need to call people names and you wouldn't have to lie if you had a leg to stand on (I.e. had a case). Honesty doesn't make one a rusophobe, it just makes one honest. You should try it sometime.
 
I ask because the way you reply to things seems like you only can see one side of the story and not both.
have you seen joepistole ever take Russian side of the story? I mean I argue now not just for the sake of Russia, but I argue because im in minority here...joepistole, billvion, pjdude1219, bells...and etc.

Crimea was Turkish until 1783.

and...Washington D.C. was Powhatan until 1646...now they are all dead.
 
Fascist rule is the one enforced now in Kiev by US inserted politicians.
Name one US citizen calling the shots in Ukraine. Then name the nationality of Borodai and Bezler. Then show where US arms are being deployed in Ukraine, and where Russian arms are deployed. If you're going to make claims, at least try to be honest. Or has your allegiance to the old Cold War mantras surgically removed all sense of remorse for your crimes?

So far more than 1,000 civilians dead on the count by UN.
How many dead are Russian citizens? If you cared about the violence, you would be encouraging anti-war protests in Moscow with demands for Putin's ouster rather than bothering this principally pro-NATO forum with your petty dreams of a new Russian imperialism.

True Crimea was part of Ukraine for brief moment of time, but the history of that land has always been part of Russian history and Russian territory and so are the people living in Crimea do not want to live under fascists in Kiev.
In other words, as far as you're concerned Ukraine only popped into existence when it was incorporated under the USSR. It has no history prior to that? So you were educated from books that had half the chapters ripped out. That would explain why your posts are dripping with old school Communist propaganda. You're like the skinheads that resurrected neo Nazism in Germany. We will need to coin a new name now like Reds 2.0. Of course all those folks who supported Pussy Riot won't be silenced. So 2.0 is a very messy little Pandora's Box, isn't it.

As far as Donetsk and Lugansk, that is Ukranian land.
Then what is Borodai, a Muscovite, doing there claiming he is its Prime Minister? Yeah, lie your way out of that one. :rolleyes:

The people there do not want to be under Kiev authority.
Sure since those people are Russian occupiers, of course they don't want to submit to Kiev. They want to capture more territory for Mother Russia. Long live the USSR.

Russia does not want Donbass region, it recognizes it as part of Ukraine, but not under the current illegitimately inserted Mandan government.
Speaking of non-consensual insertion, who inserted Borodai and Bezler? Oh, right, the state rapist Putin. And look how much of your Russian mob is screaming for more. You people really need to get some political sex therapy. (CptBork snapped to that in a heartbeat several days ago.)

Really-do you even know what voyeurism is? I don't think you have a clue. It starts with rubbernecking, sticking your nose in other people's business, then getting all hot and bothered by it, and leads to exposing yourself and eventually inserting yourself. It's really nasty, so stop doing that. Go back crawling on your belly to your rolling-pin wielding battle ax of a wife (that failed version of democracy that you were cuckolded by your Mafias and oligarchs) and just lick your lips from behind that trench coat every time artists and intellectuals like Pussy Riot whip you into submission.

Psychopaths.
 
Putin listens to his people and 65% of Russians don't want Russia to have war with the Ukraine's illegitimate army.
So he's going behind their backs and waging a proxy war via the rebels. How . . . honorable of him. I guess it works as long as he is able to keep his people fooled.
 
what did you say? that ukraine is using illegal phosphorous bombs on civilians and has so far killed at minimum 1000 people as investigated by UN?

considering your the source I'll view that as a lie until third party corroboration. and another failure to adhear to their obligations doesn't negate you of yours.
 
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