Good answer.
Let me ask you, at the risk of offending you (I don't want to), but when do think the world was 'created'?
Let me ask you, at the risk of offending you (I don't want to), but when do think the world was 'created'?
Islam Makes More Sense Than Christianity.
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We're in danger of going way off the topic. And don't worry, I'm very hard to offend.
Personally I don't think that question can really be answered - religiously or scientifically. I don't think it was 6000 years plus seven days ago, because that misses the point. It's no more useful information than "20 billion and seven years ago". What the Biblical authors saw fit to call the "beginning" had little to do with the universe, and a lot do with man.
And for us, the world we know could only have been "created" when consciousness appeared to perceive it. For God, it had existed ever since He conceived of it. But whatever time or form the process of creation took, I do not doubt that God was the artist at every moment of it.
If you asked a critic when the Creation of Adam was created, he might say 1508, when it was started, or 1512, when it was finished, but if you asked Michelangelo, he would say it was already begun in his mind when he conceived it, and only finished when he was satisfied. Saying it was created 492 plus four years ago would technically be quite right, but not entirely accurate.
Personally I don't think that question can really be answered - religiously or scientifically. I don't think it was 6000 years plus seven days ago, because that misses the point. It's no more useful information than "20 billion and seven years ago". What the Biblical authors saw fit to call the "beginning" had little to do with the universe, and a lot do with man.
And for us, the world we know could only have been "created" when consciousness appeared to perceive it. For God, it had existed ever since He conceived of it. But whatever time or form the process of creation took, I do not doubt that God was the artist at every moment of it.
If you asked a critic when the Creation of Adam was created, he might say 1508, when it was started, or 1512, when it was finished, but if you asked Michelangelo, he would say it was already begun in his mind when he conceived it, and only finished when he was satisfied. Saying it was created 492 plus four years ago would technically be quite right, but not entirely accurate.
The Flemster said:
Everyone knows when the universe was created. Assuming that's what you meant by "world" because you didn't make it clear. Everyone knows that the universe gets a little bigger each year, and so by measuring how much bigger it gets each year, you can reverse and see how many years it would take for the universe to shrink back into a dot. World scientists have estimated this to be 12.3-13.2 billion years.
SO THERE YOU GO!
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You are so right, lets see if you can comply with that?Proud_Muslim said:
I heard that even though gays are not encouraged in islam, that it is wide-spread, especially during Ramadan, any comments P_M?
1300 years? proof, I need proof, not propaganda. Also, why did M change arabic culture? woman had power then, his first wife was a rich merchant, yet after she died, M said, "o alalh send me many wives", & lo & behold, he did. islam makes sense, if you are into polygamy, slavery, war, plunder & second-class status for non-muslims
Yeah but always remember that New Zealand was the first eastern nation to in 1889... due to a tiny population and needing more voters... go Kiwiland! says I...
I'm sorry if it seemed like I was going off-topic, I merely wanted a few otler people's opinions before I ask (all deeply religious, non-free-thinking) our fellow contributors the following question:
Why is there no mention of dinosaurs in ANY religious text?
(And don't come back with that 'God/Allah (dkny, whatever) put the evidence of them here to test mankind'.
'Cos that's a crock of cop-out shite, and you all know it!
The Flemster.
Why is there no mention of dinosaurs in ANY religious text?
(And don't come back with that 'God/Allah (dkny, whatever) put the evidence of them here to test mankind'.
'Cos that's a crock of cop-out shite, and you all know it!
The Flemster.
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there's mention of a levanthian, look up the reference in the backThe Flemster said:
Christianity is based on a myth, in fact, pathetic myth, that God DIED !!
only the retards will believe in such illogical sect.
http://www.jesus-or-allah.com
only the retards will believe in such illogical sect.
http://www.jesus-or-allah.com
Proud_Muslim said:
Interesting perspective. My personal prediction is that we all will die, but that's just me.
"Who in their right mind", indeed...
For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
- 1 Corinthians 15
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