Buffalo Roam said:
DiamondHearts, darling did you check the google I suggested to see the history as it really is, complete with pictures, or are you having a brain orgasim by denying historical facts that are inconvenient to you altered perception of reallity, the Mufti of Jerusalem was a real, historical fact, and it is historical fact that he raised Divisions for Hitler's SS, Handschar and Skandebeg, that he also visited Auschwitz, and other consentration camps in the company of Eichmann and Himmler and "He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. With Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz and other consentration camps" I do beleave that you must truely be a blond with the reasoning you display. The Grand Mufti of Jersusalem, Haj Muhammed Amin al Husseini, was the uncle to Yassar Arrafat, just as Kharailla Tulfa was the uncle of Saddam, and some history on Saddam's uncle
Kharaillah Tulfah, Saddam Hussein's uncle and future father in law, along with Gen. Rashid Ali and the so-called "golden square" cabal of pro-Nazi officers, participated in a failed coup against the pro-British government of Iraq in 1941. Operating behind the scenes in Baghdad at the time, and arranging for Nazi weapons and assistance was the notorious pro-Nazi Haj Amin al-Husseini the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. The Mufti had been on the Nazi payroll, according to testimony at the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials, since 1937 when he had met with Adolf Eichmann during Eichmann's brief visit to Palestine. Saddam Hussein was born in 1937. Do I have to provide more evedence or can you do the growen up thing and do some reasearch your self.
ps: Isrial did not exist until 1947 and this started in 1937 so how can this history be a Zionist plot?
I had already argued this point on this forum. All the sources for this information comes from Israeli sources which makes all the information immediately uncredible. I do not find it difficult to believe that Israel would invent lies as to say the great leader Yasser Arafat was somehow involved in the genocide of Jews in Gernmany. Yasser Arafat himself denied these charges and insisted that genocide of Jews was a horrible thing and that it was comparable to the genocide of Palestinians. These are Israeli enemies of the Palestinian people trying to defame Pale4stinians and Islam. I stated very clearly that Islam is not compatible with Nazism. It was always against it, and will always be against it.
As for Saddam Hussein, he was the best friend of the Americans, and helped them up pressure on Iran and other regional powers. The US fully backed Saddam before he invaded the former province of Kuwait, which the West didnt criticize until afterwards. They basically set up Saddam Hussein because they wanted to remove him from power. They used this as an excuse to launch a bombing campaign on Iraqi targets which resulted in poisoning of water in Southern Iraq and killing massive civilians. Then they introduced boycott on food, medicine, and water which brought the Iraqi people into a humanitarian crisis and killed 1.8 million Iraqis, half of them children. Iraqi peopel have hated the Americans very much, and many Iraqis believe Saddam was a much better ruler than Americans, even though he was repressive. The Americans are trying to create friction among Iraq's different groups to make it easier to control them and to discourage the Iraqi resistance from attacking American targets. It should be known that it was the Americans and Iraqi government forces which set up the bombs in Al Askariya Masjid and started this civil war in Iraq. The bomb planters needed more than 12 hours to set up the bombs and dig the foundation, and there was a curfew being implemented by the Americans. Eyewitnesses have reported that the night before the attack, they have seen American troops constantly during around the area.
I don't know said:
- Abu Ghraib was, as far as we know, an isolated incident, and far worse things regularily happened under the rule of Saddam - and with his full knowledge and permission - he hired professional rapists for eff's sake!
You are saying it is an isolated incident, but I am well aware of jails in Afghanistan and Basra airbase where Western soldiers constantly abuse and torture prisoners. Even in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba we have heard accounts of soldiers flushing Qurans as a torture, washing them with water and leaving them out in the cold night naked and cold, we have heard them use dogs to attack prisoners, and also of various reports of sexual abuse. This Abu Ghareeb prison is not the only incident revealed, it is merely the first and with time we will find mroe such cases.
Saddam Hussein tortured and abused those who resisted his rule like dissidents and members of revolutionary parties, but the Americans abuse and kill innocents without any crimes. They are far more criminal than Saddam could ever be.
Saddam is evil, but the US is the greater evil.
I don't know said:
It's also wrong to say the US is "pushing" Iraq in to civil war. The civil war is "pushed" by certain elements in Iraq, not the US - but the US admin should have known this would happen (and were warned several times)
The US initiated selective favoritism of selected groups, while on the side funding the enemies of these groups. Hence, the US caused friction to begin with. The US and the Iraqi government set up the bomb in Al Askariya Masjid.
Please read:
After Askariya - Al Ahram
Buffalo Roam said:
Yes Zakariya, our system is far from perfect but then why is every poor, oppressed, or just plain opertunist bugger in the world trying to come here leagle or otherwise,
Money to provide a better life for their families. Honest people who want better education for their children. People who grew up in an impoverished country. Do not blame people for being poor, blame the rich who are hoarding the world's wealth.
Buffalo Roam said:
as for Diamondheart she isn't even using her own thoughts, she is just repeating the drivial spouted from her proffesser
I learned all this from my own research on the subjects and living in my homeland in the Middle East. I understand this subject, and I don't need a teacher to tell me how to think, be it my professor or you.
Peace.
