Cris, I appreciate such info u sent which contains no lies, unlike Frencheneez and many other atheist.
Chance indeed has no proof and is proven a lie currently speaking, but if intelligence (which is proven) created the world who created such intelligence? in other words "if God created the world who created God?" the most common questions atheist will ask, in fact when I was 6 years old, laying in the bed before falling asleep, I asked that same question, but ill give it to you here and I hope you will cherish this hard facts. Read on...
It’s proven through observation, study and demonstration that intelligence is the cause of detailed biological and technological effect. But how can we find the answer of the cause of God, who is neither biological nor technological, but is Spirit? I know everything on earth requires cause as observed and studied, but nobody ever mentioned “spirit” which is inaccessible, out of what we labeled as law of nature; if this was the case can we even say it requires cause? How so if no observation & study can be done to it? Therefore not one evidence can support the claim that it requires cause.
It was written that God said, “I am who am”, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. God has no beginning and have no ending. Meaning God has no cause, nothing created Him but He always is. But atheist might think the bible is wrong and that God is lying there, for the sake of the argument lets give atheist a chance, lets just pretend that God lied and that something must have created Him for nothing is caused without reason and that God must have intelligent cause for it violates the principle of causality (even though such principle only applies to what we observed and studied such as biology and technology, not the inaccessible “spirit” but for the sake of the argument even if we don’t know, lets just lie and say “Spirit requires cause”). So what created God who is Spirit? Read on to find the answer…
Bob, a computer-engineer scientist engineered a 7-inch artificially intelligent robot, capable of judgment & learning independently. He also engineered a city made out of iron as big as a football stadium. The scientist can see the robot 200 feet above, but it can’t see him for its vision is limited to 20 feet. Years past, all the robot learned is machine stadium & self. The robot was skeptic & said, “Did someone engineered me or was I engineered by Luck (accident, chance, etc.)?” The scientist in hearing these spoke to the robot’s computer chip brain through a walkie-talkie & said “Mr. Bob engineered you my friend”, robot replied, “Well if Bob engineered me, who engineered Bob?” the scientist replied “Bob cannot be engineered. You don’t understand”, the robot then said, “Through my observation & study (science) Bob is either engineered or he doesn’t exist” Bob being aware of robot’s limited intellect said, “Bob is, he is who is. Bob cannot be engineered, Bob’s kingdom is not in your world.”
You see we believe only in existence of the tangible physical world. Through human observation & study, we are able to use the big bang theory, how life evolved, etc. This is human Biological understanding. The Big Bang, atom transformed into a cell, etc. whatever the theory is, that’s our understanding, God is beyond human understanding. We as a tangible physicality cannot relate to the spirit world, therefore we don’t understand God who is Spirit. That’s right you heard me, we cannot understand what we don’t relate to. Even if the creator of the robot revealed himself to the creation, the robot may hear it, but will not be able to relate to it. A robot brought out in the machine world was never exposed to the biological world, despite hearing it the robot will never relate to it, therefore the Robot will never understand it, that goes for the painting as well.
God revealed Himself to us to fit accordingly to our weak and transitory understanding. God is spirit. God is the Word became flesh, through the Word all came to be, & without the word nothing came to be (in other words through intelligence life existed), He is the light of the world, as everything existed through light, He is Word incarnate. Yahweh, Jehovah, Abba, etc. Can we understand God’s existence? Do we understand all this? Do we understand spirit? Were in the world of tangible physicality, we can never relate to Spirit, the existence of God; as a machine can never relate to the biological world.
So who created God the creator?
What kind of answer do u want? Physical products? Electrons protons/neutrons, amino acids, etc? Biological? Remember, God is Spirit- John. Spirit created tangible Physicality, God created the world. Why do u want physical understanding as an answer to the spirit? Should I give worldly understanding as an answer to the creator of the world? How can the worldly products create God who created the product of the world? Alligator caused alligator bite marks. The foot caused footsteps. Engineers caused engineering, atheist caused atheism, designers caused designs, artist caused art, and Life giver caused life...
Can the existence of effect be used to explain the existence of the cause? How can you use the existence of a footprint (a mark on soil) as an explanation of the foot’s existence…nevertheless the body that holds the foot? How can you use a dog bite mark as an explanation of the dog’s creation? How can you use a creation as an explanation for the creator? I can state many analogies (maybe hundreds) that prove it’s impossible to use the creation as an explanation for its creator. For example, the existence and engineering creation of APPLE Mac computer cannot be used to explain the existence and biological creation of Bill Gates. Can you give one analogy that proves a creation can b used to explain its creator? Not at all!
What do I know about the creation of Spirit? Nothing! Is He a carbon monoxide? Hydrogen? These are both products of the world. I know God exist, but I don’t know how He exists.
Final answer is I cannot understand my creator. God may have a cause, but do I know what and how? Who can understand the mystery of God? Perhaps we may never find the answer to that question…Just because something can’t be explained, does it mean it’s a myth? So because u cannot explain what the black hole is, therefore black hole is a myth right? Or because u cannot explain how to cure cancer therefore cancer is a myth? I cannot explain homosexuals, so they r myth right? Is it visual? Because I cannot see oxygen therefore oxygen is a myth? Because I cannot see gas therefore gas is a myth? Because I cannot see gravity therefore gravity is a myth? I cannot see atom therefore atom is a myth? Because I cannot see what’s behind my wall, whatever is behind my wall is a myth? Because I cannot see 23 miles away from my city, therefore whatever is there is a myth? Is it taste & odor? Because I cannot see, feel, taste, smell the odorless tasteless poisonous gas, therefore it’s a myth? Because I cannot taste & smell the date rape drug, therefore it’s a myth? Because I cannot see, feel, taste, or smell your thoughts, therefore thoughts r myth? Because I cannot physically taste, or smell, or see your emotions, therefore emotions are myth? Because I have not seen, tasted, smelled, felt King Henry, Queen Elizabeth, Shakespeare, etc. therefore they r myth? So if you’re a dog, color blind, u would think color is a myth, but does the failure of your senses change facts? Is it about your 5 senses? I thought it’s about factual reality? If the 9 yrs old child have no idea how his father came into this world, does it mean his father is a myth? Do u feel me? I cannot explain child molesters, homosexuals, cancers, black hole, etc. & I cannot see or smell & taste atom, King Henry, Gas, Gravity, etc. & I don’t claim to understand God. But I know through solid logic factual evidence they all exist, Period.
My personal belief is that nothing created God for he is the creator and the beginning of all. God is existence and to exist comes from Him. You don’t even know where electrons and atoms come from, why then do you ask where God comes from? Think about it… I may have no scientific proof to believe that God is the truth, but neither does the atheist for claiming He is a liar, most atheist people I encountered lied so many times, because of that I have no reason to put faith and believe in both the immoral lawless atheism and atheists people.
If there is one question left that is yet to be answered, then that will be who’s the true God. Is it the Christian God? Is God a Toothfairy? Is God a former Jupiter residence? Is there more than one god, the Hindu gods? And I am working right now to answer this simple question.
