I am going to take a bet and say the following was the "exponentially dumb for laughs" part:
I am sure the intelligent part of your post will appear sometime. Ermmm maybe. Ok. Not.
Chatha, that would have to have been one of the most ridiculous and, I must be honest, hilarious piece of crap, ever to grace the internet pages of this forum. It reads like it was taken from this
gem of a website. Good concerted effort in trying to send your sex back to the dark ages. Don't forget your club and loin cloth.
Bells, since you seem to be so enthralled in critiquing everyone else's posts, and not much else; let's hear your 'intelligent post' on the matter.
You must be one of those feminazis that expects men to put you up on a pedestal, aren't you?
Mikenostic
Shake your pom-poms all you want, but consider for a moment the idea of a solution. When faced with a statistical problem, such as violence against women, a society like the United States moves to address it. Is the traditionally narrow focus of such legislation (e.g., how did the Fourteenth Amendment not apply to women) the fault of women? Or is it a more general sociopolitical attitude that we should address?
Thus, I would appreciate a couple of objective considerations from you, ABS, or even our neighbor Perfect:
• How many men are raped by women in the United States each year?
Probably not as many as there are women raped by men each year. What does this have to do with anything?
• How many pregnant men are beaten by their female spouses or partners?
I would say none because the last time I checked, men don't get pregnant. Again, what does this have to do with anything?
“ Treat her like a person, but don't put up with any bullshit. ”
You realize this implies you're holding women to a different standard than people?
How so?
Let's talk about your incinuation of spousal abuse. I would never advocate hitting/physically abusing a woman, ever.
But there are a few things in that physical realm that I would not consider physical abuse:
-a woman comes up to me and takes a swing at me (whether it be her fist or a bat or an ASPH, etc.), and I didn't do anything to her first, I'm not just going to stand there and let her hit me. I will defend myself. If I have to take her to the ground and pin her to keep her from taking anymore swings or to disarm her, I will. I will not feel any remorse about that. Now if I were to disarm her or start punching back to the point of absolutely beating the crap out of her, then that would be physical abuse. Absolutely
no guy that I've asked what they would do in that situation, said that they would just stand there and take it.
The laws of domestic violence do favor the women, and justifiably so. But that in NO WAY, gives women the right to physically provoke men either.
Just as the police are only allowed to use the amount of force needed to subdue someone, I would use that same judgement.
I don't hold women to a different standard. I would not ask any woman to do what I wasn't prepared to do myself.
-I'm not the type to cheat, so I would expect the same from her. Some will forgive their partner for cheating. I won't. It's grounds for immediate and unredeemable dismissal.
-I'm not the flaky type. If I'm not interested in someone, I will tell them. I do not play the jr. HS 'just don't return phone calls, they'll get the hint' game. I expect the same, but rarely get it. When women do flake out like that, I cannot have respect for them. I've had women online actually thank me for taking the time to tell them I'm not interested, and wished there were more like me.
-I have an athletic build. I find fat(I'm not talking thick, voluptuous or a few extra pounds, I'm talking 250+ lbs nasty fat) very unattractive. I would have no problem telling my S/O they are getting fat, or even dismissing them if they do get fat. Wait for it....if I can take the time to stay in shape and not become a fat, greasy, bloated, 12 sandwich eating MF, then so can they. NOW, if I ever do get fat, then I will not say one thing about my partner's weight. Sounds like the same standards to me.
-If/when I ever get asked loaded questions like "does this make me look fat?" or "What are you thinking about?" I give honest answers. If an article of clothing makes them look fat, I'll tell them.
Ask a question you don't want an honest answer to, expect an answer you don't want to hear.
How is this holding women to different standards?
I grimace at the fact that you sit there at your computer judging me so in depth from a few lines that I type on an internet forum, instead of actually asking why I think a certain way. If you can't take the time to do that, instead of typing of 15 pages of condescending responses, then just don't type anything at all. Or put me on ignore or something.
I bet you that I treat women with more respect than you do.
I respect them, and will treat them like a person, but I'm not going to be a spineless 'yes man', nor will I put any woman up on a pedestal.
In case you've been under a rock for the last 5000 years, women tend to not like men who kiss their ass and agree with them all the time.
A lot of what I say may sound misogynistic, but it's not. It's just stark disapproval for the way some women act. Those women make all the good women out there look bad. Just like some jackass men make the rest of us look bad. But since I'm not the kind that looks at another guys' hairy ass and finds love, mens' behavior (other than my own) doesn't concern me.
Oh, and I love how that even though Perfect was the one that made the comments that I merely added to, you felt the need to come after me for some reason. You didn't give him an essay of a response. What gives?