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Originally posted by Asguard
actully i would rather see philosophy made an important part (and yes stupidity SHOULD be illegle) and science more valued.
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"I'm saying that intelligent people who enhance our lives should be rewarded with adolation. Successfully hitting a ball with a stick, or pretending to be someone else really good should not."
I disagree. Someone who has the ability to keep us all entertained is worthwhile, and perhaps EQUALLY so compared to someone who enhances our lives in other ways. The human animal is by nature competitive, and sport is a way for us to rid ourselves of excess agression left over from our "animal" selves, and, therefore, valuable when compared with the alternative.
Perhaps you were inferring that sportspeople (and entertainers in general) should be EQUALLY rewarded for enhancing our otherwise rather boring lives as those who use their intelligence to invent time or effort saving products? If so, I would agree.
Asguard... now now, be fair to stupid people - they have value too, if that value is recognised and cultivated
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Your brain should be more important than your money.
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"I wouldn't agree with that at all. Capitalism works just fine for me. "
Your brain ALLOWS you to take advantage of the system Evyl, our version of capitalism ensures that. If you have the ability to contribute in some way, then capitalism is the system by which you would be rewarded for that effort.
In a perfect world, brains would be merely a means by which to profit... as would be ANY means by which you could do so. "Unintelligent" people (if you wish to use that term) are usually in possession of some skill by which they have the means of survival. A welder, for example, has something to contribute.. as does the manager who organises the skill of the welder to build something lasting from which all can benefit. Without the welder, the manager is nothing... and without the manager, the welder's contribution is small, localised. Capitalism is the system by which both can profit, and, in a perfect world, profit equally, by means of the contribution of lasting benefit to ALL.
Wealth should be a by-product of overall value, not clever marketing and the abuse of others' skills.
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At the same time this will never happen while the problems that exist in this world are there.
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"The odds of people becoming docile and non-confrontational are a lot more impossible."
"Impossible" is a defeatist term evyl... I prefer the term "Improbable", even if its only slightly less pessimistic. I, myself, have great hopes for humankind. In time, perhaps the odds might change a little yes?
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Example if all the scientest get killed because they are not tanks (and most ARN'T) there will BE no world like you descibe.
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"It was Wehrner VonBraun that made rockets, not Adoph Hitler."
And if Hitler had been a little more enlightened, he would have made better use of Von Braun than what WAS made of him, and others like him. Again, it is the downfall of our current sytem that rewards for excellence are misallocated. A proper use made of Von Braun would have meant Germany being the first on the moon in about 1965 rather than the USA in 1969.
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I would love to have been able to defend myself but then also I could have turned into the bullie then because i wanted power so much then (cause i had so little).
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"So we should punish everyone for one person's lack of self discipline?"
I think Asguard here may have meant something along the lines of "Power corrupts... and absolute power corrupts absolutely".
It is an unfortunate fact of life that someone who has been, however temporarily, a "minority" exhibits a far greater understanding of the trials faced by such people than someone who has not. In later life, this can translate and develop into a greater understanding of people in general, and by extension the world and its problems. A wide experience of life leads to a wider understanding of life in general, and relief that ones experiences, however painful, have led, hopefully, to wisdom rather than bitterness.
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Still the way we are going nither of us will have to worrie about perfect worlds because the world bullies are going to kill us all.
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"So may we could just ask Osama bin Laden to stop teasing the US, and it will all get better"
Excuse my "blindness", but I dont see a reference to one side or the other in this statement?