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Godless said:
It is also present in psychiatric wards, these people are schizophrenics. :bugeye:
(If you talk to God, you are praying;
If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.
If the dead talk to you, you are a spiritualist;
If God talks to you, you are a schizophrenic.) Thomas S. Szasz
Godless
This surprisingly is a very valid point....and worth noting IMO.
The difference between a spiritualist and a god communication is sometimes the level of compulsion to do what the voices ask.
If a person is experiencing coms with "demons and gods" they can be very compelling. Where as a spiritualist [as an example] maintains a sense of freewill and independance to that which is communicating.
From what I understand of the subject, God is never heard as he is both the listener and talker simultaneously where as "demons and Devils and lesser gods" etc will almost always play on words as a tool of deception playing upon the gulability of the person.
It is true that outside the person they will point to evidence of their potency, normally in the form of some sort of
sexual or love orientated gratification. [ Falling in love with a psychosis is one descriptor I have heard]
A person will see how the voices can manipulate the movements and thoughts of others etc thus reinforcing their interest value in the person listening. So the delusion of truth [fraud] is maintained in the persons mind.
However it is only because others are aware of the patients state that they move in the ways that suggest potency. However when ever the patient attempts to deliberately test the "entity" [reference to Lori's halloween] they are always disappointed.
If it were truely God or even Jesus, their respect for the sanity and credibility of their "person" would stop them from verbal communication with
their person thus placing the person in a state of peace rather than anxious curiocity. [God and Jesus work from within the heart and not the intellect]
It springs from the motto that "God
talks to no - one" as he has no need for the confusion that words and their infinite variation of definition to spoil his relationship.
From what I understand hearing voices is a "refracted" state of consiousness where by the person is aware of their own reflection to such a level that they hear their own reflection [all their axieties and fears ] talking with them. [their inner time continuum is refracted thus the voices become audible or at least discernable] Their fears playing on their fears in reflection
A person will tune into that aspect of their personalities and listen whilst believing that the voices are coming from outside when in fact they are coming from with in ther own character and personality distorted by the impact of what is outside that character or personaility. A bit like a sounding board as they empathically resonate to the ambience. Thus the voices appear to be not their own but that of someone else. The reflection being distorted by that ambience.
Tragically it is the western worlds official stance not to recognise telepathy as a reality yet allow prayer and consider this to be normal. This places the patient in an awfully confusing state not knowing what to believe. The religion / science paradox is in a lot of ways responsible for most of our own mental health issues. A constant state of contradiction exists in mainstream thought and of course it is to be expected that some will suffer because of it.
Interestingly enough my assessment would be that before you started hearing your voices Lori you were more one with God than after you started listening.....as now you are separated by words and meaning. Which is of course the inverse to what you believe.
Basically it is in a religious context "Eden revisited"
You have aquired
knowledge [remember the apple] of God but have no idea what to do with it...