Jadon lives the scriptures. Hmmm. This should be fun.
The fossil record clearly describes the evolution of life. The progression of forms was identified even before Darwin came up with the concept of evolution.Jadon said:Where has the Fossil Record got you? What has Radiocarbon Dating got you?
Adaptive Radiation? Do you mean adaptive mutation? There's evidence all over the place supporting the concept. It has been observed in living animals as well as being evinced in the fossil record. It is actually a tremendous problem for medical science as bacteria grow resistant to antibiotics.Adaptive Radiation?!! The Fossil Record just don't support it!!
Fortunately for us no one believes humans originated from baboons.I fear that you guys have become so caught up in your Evolutionary Idealogies that you are thinking as the Baboons that you 'originate' from!!
Okaaay. Yeah. Right. Thousands of scientists across dozens of disciplines all across the world have been conspiring against Christianity for the last hundred years... even though a large number of them are Christians.Jadon said:Surely you should have realized by now that there a conspiracy against Christianity?
You're quite correct, I am a layman when it comes to science. But I sure as shit know more than you.No offence but you are really a nobody when it comes Science.
"Material or Mathematical Form"? The more you write the less sense you make. Put down Gish's books and Hovind's videos (they're not good for your mind) and get back to the classroom.Stop telling me things I already know and have sensibly rejected because the Evidence has no Material or Mathematical Form.
Lawdog said:Lori, I shouldnt bother replying to you because you treat other christians with contempt, claiming to be your own Church and taking the rightful place of God.
I abjure you to cease from your falsehoods and relinquish your false sense of religious freedom. You rage like an untrained beast, giving no heed to true doctrine.
You talk humility but you will not accept the ancientmost teachings of the HOLY CATHOLIC CHURCH, and not even the derivitive teachings of any other traditional BIBLE-christians, but you make yourself your own arbiter of what doctrines suit you, giving proof of St. Paul's words "they follow whatever doctrines their itching ears wish to hear'
You have yourself up as judge of me and judge of God's Church. Shame! This will be one only of but few of message to you. Stop hindering my work here.
Oh, so I dont swear like you and use the F word, I use simple argumentation, and stories like the Savior did, that makes me a kid?
We are all immature and uneducated in comparison to Him. My doctrines are drawn from the Church fathers. Do you claim to be wiser than they?
Yeha, and then you create your own bogus theology and do whatever you want,
claiming to be the Church itself, rationalizing your behavior.
That is not christianity.
You MUST, if you wish to be considered christian,
submit to a higher human authority than yourself and
your own version of God, (an idol fashioned from scripture quotes),
one appointed by God, as St Paul says,
"SUBMIT YE SELVES TO THY SUPERIORS, BEING OBEDIENT IN ALL THINGS."
When did I claim to be a scientist? I'm a team lead for IBM.Jadon said:you claim to be a scientist and yet you do not know how the Scientific World works!!
Ahhh... yes the pentaverate. Oooh, I hate the Colonel with his wee beady eyes and that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken".Reality Check!!- It is not the work of thousands of scientists but rather the work of a few demonistic atheists who decide what goes in the scientific world today.
I prefer reason. Intuition is too easily swayed by emotion and desire.You just did not get what I was saying- stop quoting the works of science that have been "allowed" from your demi-gods and use your own Power of Intuition.
No. Adaptive radiation is relatively quick and is therefore unlikely to be as well recorded in the fossil record, this is why I asked. We can/have observe adaptive radiation occur in living species as it takes advantage of existing variation and is not necessarily reliant upon successive mutation.Jadon said:And the professional word for it is Adaptive radiation- it describes much more. It is no longer adaptive mutation. Nevertheless, it is a figment of the Imagination.
And once again you demonstrate that you haven't a clue what a scientific theory is.Finally, let me tell you that Charles Darwin was a Christian, and to his death he always maintained that Evolution was to always remain a theory.
I understood that evolution was accurate long before I ever even doubted the existence of God. The two are unrelated.I guess your so called demigods decided they could use this as a way to turn people away from the Truth.
I already have and am not afraid.But you can still embrace the Truth. Be not Afraid!
No.Fear is the opposite of faith.
No, you only trust what you have imagined.I trust Him because I know Him.
No, you merely convinced yourself of what you wanted to feel.I demanded proof and God gave me proof.
No – that’s just another of your fantasies.God wants you to want to know Him and to have a relationship with Him.
I did and nothing happened.He will give you more proof than you know what to do with if you really want it.
I am an atheist, I am more qualified morally then you, more true to humanity then you, and you want to know why I am sure, it is because I live for humanity.jaded said:I am a Christian, more qualified spiritually then you, more true to the Scriptures then you, and you want to know why I am sure,It is because I live The Scriptures.
Yes you are wrong. Make an effort to read some of Raithere’s past posts – you might learn something.You don't have to be so defensive. If I am wrong about you, then I am simply wrong.
He stated he used reason and that intuition was unreliable. You appear to call everyone a liar who does not agree with you. Consider the possibility that you might be wrong.Your reactions are undoubtedly typical of a LIAR - and learn to rely on Intuition because your data can be skewed or biased.
But then young children also do not understand scientific theory, like yourself.So you're at IBM? If this is true, then all the more disapointing that you claim to believe in things even a young child would laugh at.
Yes he does – it is called religious indoctrination and it totally reprehensible. But then children often prefer fantasies since reality is often harder to understand, hence the reason that children are told fairy stories when they are young. Religions are just another set of fairy stories.Note: A child needs no explanation that he has a FATHER in heaven,
Yes of course since a great deal of science has taken place to discover that and there is much to learn.but he will certainly need alot of explanation if he is told that he descended from baboon like creatures.
So what’s your point? Humans didn’t evolve from baboons they had a parallel path to us. Here is a site that might help your training –Come on, if it is drawn like a baboon, has the body features of a baboon, walks like a baboon, then it is a baboon!!!!!
Why is it vain to state a fact?As a team leader which you so vainly told me,
You need to learn something about the facts of evolution as well as the theories if you wish to not look as foolish as you do at the moment.I suggest you distribute some bananas to your team and ask them what animal they associate the fruit with - yeah, baboons!!! BOOM< BOOM
then this:No, I dont loathe you, Superluminal. I feel Sorry for you. I want to help you so that you dont pass on this culture of hatred to your Three Beautiful Daughters!
then this:Don't tell me that you are one of those extremely shy misled ones who hide away from the real world. Now stop being a shy person, come out of your shell, and start being a proper example of a Dad to your Beautiful Daughters.Coz, you know, I care about them too.
then this:Thats cute, the way you spend time with your family!! (I don't really care much for movies though). Perhaps I could join you guys someday. I'm sure your Beautiful Daughters would enjoy my company.
then this:Oh and I dont know who will be doing the 'ripping'
Superluminal,
And by the way, Ladies Melt Like Butter In my Hands.
It is Hard being a Christian!!!
Really? When will it end? How will it end? With my death maybe? I don't need to remember that I will one day die. We will all become worm fodder one day. So what's your point?Jadon said:Bell,
You are just like the devil, always causing Mischief.
Is there not a time for everything?
So it shall be for you - make as much mischief as you can, but remember, Your Time For Mischief Will End - Jadon.
What is this obsession of yours with baboons? Do you even know anything at all about evolution? Anything? If you do not know a particular subject or are ignorant in regards to something, the last thing you should do is try to pass yourself as having any form of knowledge or understanding of it by continuously referring to baboons. By doing so, you're making yourself look like one. Nor does it help your case or cause when you sit there and scream 'liar' at anyone who disagrees with you. All that does is further the notion that you are in fact ignorant.Note: A child needs no explanation that he has a FATHER in heaven, but he will certainly need alot of explanation if he is told that he descended from baboon like creatures.
Come on, if it is drawn like a baboon, has the body features of a baboon, walks like a baboon, then it is a baboon!!!!!
As a team leader which you so vainly told me, I suggest you distribute some bananas to your team and ask them what animal they associate the fruit with - yeah, baboons!!! BOOM< BOOM
Cris said:Lori,
No.
Faith is the delusion that there is nothing to fear.
Faith is confusing a fantasy for reality.
Faith is used to avoid the fear that truth is not always pleasant.
Faith is the course taken by the lazy to avoid finding truth.
Faith is used by those frightened of truth.
No, you only trust what you have imagined.
No, you merely convinced yourself of what you wanted to feel.
No – that’s just another of your fantasies.
I did and nothing happened.
Sorry Lori but God is purely a figment of your overactive imagination.
Lori_7 said:You're wrong.
I'm not defensive, I am simply irritated with you. You have been wrong about me several times now, demonstrating quite nicely why intuition is a poor substitute for reason when it comes to determining truth.Jadon said:You don't have to be so defensive. If I am wrong about you, then I am simply wrong.
Data can be skewed or biased but intuition will never help you determine whether this is so. Only logic and rigor (mathematical, scientific, experimental) will help you there.Your reactions are undoubtedly typical of a LIAR - and learn to rely on Intuition because your data can be skewed or biased.
Children are not known for their immense scope of knowledge and advanced thinking. This is why we send them to school, to teach them facts and how to think.So you're at IBM? If this is true, then all the more disapointing that you claim to believe in things even a young child would laugh at.
" When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things."A child needs no explanation that he has a FATHER in heaven, but he will certainly need alot of explanation if he is told that he descended from baboon like creatures.
My team prefers pizza.I suggest you distribute some bananas to your team and ask them what animal they associate the fruit with