Woo-Woo Contest?

[S.A.M.]

Huh? Really? When did the scientific community reject the Aristotelian model? Based on what? Was it the mathematics of Kepler that swayed them? The observational studies of Galileo? Were they convinced by Galileos defense of the epicycloids of Copernicus? Or was it Keplers defense of Gilbert's magnetic force theory? What role did Descartes' play in it?

We await your wise words

 

[hypewaders]

All of your questions and doubts are answered here: Let's all go to the Creation Museum! Yay!:bravo::runaway::fright:

 

[GeoffP]

Oh, hypey, you big Christianophobe. Tsk tsk.

 

[hypewaders]

They're only a tiny minority- we've tightened our Bible Belt to only a half-dozen States now. Soon we'll whoop these isolated fanatics, just like in Helmand Province.

 

[PieAreSquared]

http://www.rael.org/rael_content/index.php because there is more to aliens than anal probes.

Raelians rule

“From now on we must ask all the nations of Earth for the authorization and extraterritoriality necessary for construction of the embassy.

http://www.elohimembassy.org/

 

[The Esotericist]

They're only a tiny minority- we've tightened our Bible Belt to only a half-dozen States now. Soon we'll whoop these isolated fanatics, just like in Helmand Province.

That's disgusting B.S. I don't support creationism, but on the 4th of July, when we are celebrating "freedom," it just reminds me, this hate crimes legistlation is criminal

It's disgusting. This guy has the right to believe and say what ever he wants. If he wants to say homosexuality is disgusting and wrong, or if he wants to be a racial, ethnic bigot, that should be his prerogative. . . this USED to be a free country.

 

[GeoffP]

They're only a tiny minority- we've tightened our Bible Belt to only a half-dozen States now. Soon we'll whoop these isolated fanatics, just like in Helmand Province.

Yes. Dreadful.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2005/05/newsweek_lutefi.html

 

[scifes]

Or someone so completely deluded they believe that their view, which contradicts everything known, is some how absolutely correct and that every single scientist in history (or whoever) was wrong/ lying.


Nope, in order for a woo woo to exist in requires merely that that person goes against the accumulated knowledge of humankind with no supporting evidence (or at least a complete misinterpretation of the evidence).


Or the arrogance to say "Hey EVERYBODY ELSE is wrong and always has been, I alone know the real truth".

reread your reply putting in mind that atheists are woo woos in real life.

:jawdrop::runaway:

no contradiction, you're both wrong..in this stage at least..when one of you stops being a woo woo and down right evil, then kicking him is ok.

LOL, you sir have obviously never read the Happeh Theory

haha now i'm interested..does it have much to do with cats?
i checked the youtube thingy but the guy seems to be a conspiracy nut..might be right in his claims as i didn't see any of his videos..

 

[Oli]

reread your reply putting in mind that atheists are woo woos in real life.

Actually that's not even close to being accurate: a woo woo invents answers where none exist and ignores actual evidence.

 

[scifes]

Actually that's not even close to being accurate: a woo woo invents answers where none exist and ignores actual evidence.

(sight)

like Neanderthals?

or how a cat might not be in a closed box just because it's there when we open it?

or...

the list is endless..

the evidence ignored and the evidence invented are only subjective.. leading to the term woo woo

 

[Oli]

(sight)

Sight or Sigh?

like Neanderthals?

All dead?

or how a cat might not be in a closed box just because it's there when we open it?

I think you've misunderstood the premise (and application) of Schrödinger's gedankenexperiment.

or...
the list is endless..
the evidence ignored and the evidence invented are only subjective.. leading to the term woo woo

Really? Please present unequivocal evidence.

 

[jpappl]

Sci,

the fact that even the woo wooized (originally) are woo wooizing others means nothing except that the woo wooers and the woo wooizd are the same ”

“ what has happenned is that the part aknowledging both logic and illogic has rightfully kicked out a cancerized part which goes with only logic...

Here are your statements. Please re-write them so that they actually make sense.

 

[hypewaders]

Makes sense to me, but more seriously- "Woo-woo" calls recall a certain certainly certain bird who woos from WackyLand, with cammiewoos in Mark Fiore too. So for advanced devotions in classic woo-ism:

Wackyland.flv
​

 

[scifes]

Sight or Sigh?

thanks for the correction

All dead?

you mean like dragons?

I think you've misunderstood the premise (and application) of Schrödinger's gedankenexperiment.

true, i'm not familiar with even the name..but i think it simply speaks about how existence is perception..so can a thing exist if it can't be perceived..

whatever science used to prove that (or whatever other similar theory) contradicts common sense, although it's built upon it..the more theory you have, the bigger margin of error..

Really? Please present unequivocal evidence.

as i said before..if a guy puts a cat in a box and closes it..

some guy will bring a quantum mechanics phone book and say it isn't in the box..

another will smack him in the face saying he saw it go in there less than a minute ago..

 

[Oli]

thanks for the correction

It was a question. I'm still at somewhat of a loss as to what you meant.

you mean like dragons?

Nope, you can't be dead if you never actually existed.

true, i'm not familiar with even the name..but i think it simply speaks about how existence is perception..so can a thing exist if it can't be perceived..

That's the question.
And a deeper questions is: if it can't be perceived does it matter whether it exists or not?

whatever science used to prove that (or whatever other similar theory) contradicts common sense, although it's built upon it..the more theory you have, the bigger margin of error..

Ah, now I see the problem.
If science contradicts common sense you're assuming that science is in error. Quite the contrary, science shows us through such conflicts that we have limited perceptions and cannot (with our everyday experiences) understand intuitively how the universe works.
In other words it's common sense that is wrong.

as i said before..if a guy puts a cat in a box and closes it..
some guy will bring a quantum mechanics phone book and say it isn't in the box..
another will smack him in the face saying he saw it go in there less than a minute ago..

You may have missed the thread where Superluminal and I actually arrived at the definitive answer to Schrödinger, but only as a side-issue to a rather more important question.
Try reading this for enlightenment.

 

[scifes]

It was a question. I'm still at somewhat of a loss as to what you meant.

i meant sigh, how would sight make sense in the given context?

Nope, you can't be dead if you never actually existed.

that's why neanderthals didn't die

That's the question.
And a deeper questions is: if it can't be perceived does it matter whether it exists or not?

:bravo:
exacto, that indeed is the more important question that should be used as a shortcut through many hard-to-answer questions of the first type..

so if we're having a hard time discussing our perception of something..we should check first it's actual existence's meaningfulness...

Ah, now I see the problem.
If science contradicts common sense you're assuming that science is in error. Quite the contrary, science shows us through such conflicts that we have limited perceptions and cannot (with our everyday experiences) understand intuitively how the universe works.
In other words it's common sense that is wrong.

very interesting...never saw it that way..

can you give me an example?

You may have missed the thread where Superluminal and I actually arrived at the definitive answer to Schrödinger, but only as a side-issue to a rather more important question.
Try reading this for enlightenment.

lol, so did sam fund you or not?

 

[Oli]

i meant sigh, how would sight make sense in the given context?

Good question.
But I'm used to coming across posts that don't make sense (contextually or otherwise )

that's why neanderthals didn't die

Ah. Er....

so if we're having a hard time discussing our perception of something..we should check first it's actual existence's meaningfulness...

Nope, we should check if the concept has any meaning, which is NOT the same thing as verifying its existence.

very interesting...never saw it that way..
can you give me an example?

Well the obvious ones are quantum physics, but the easiest one to illustrate is: does the sun go round the Earth or vice versa? Common sense says that the sun moves and the Earth doesn't because we can't feel it moving...
Or relativity and the constancy of the speed of light. Common sense would say that if you're moving at half of light speed and shine a torch then the beam of light should be moving at 1.5 times light speed. But that's not true.

lol, so did sam fund you or not?

No, and I never did find out if cats teleport.
And I didn't get the free chilli/ cognac/ Guinness either.

 

[scifes]

Ah. Er....

HA HA!!:yay:
MOMENT OF TRIUMPH!!

Nope, we should check if the concept has any meaning, which is NOT the same thing as verifying its existence.

example?

Well the obvious ones are quantum physics, but the easiest one to illustrate is: does the sun go round the Earth or vice versa? Common sense says that the sun moves and the Earth doesn't because we can't feel it moving...
Or relativity and the constancy of the speed of light. Common sense would say that if you're moving at half of light speed and shine a torch then the beam of light should be moving at 1.5 times light speed. But that's not true.

perfectly proves my woo-woo theory..

i don't know what yo're talking about..

if what you're saying makes one of us stupid..

then i'm a woo-woo if most people are with you(understand it)
or you're a woo woo, if most people are like me(don't have a clue)

No, and I never did find out if cats teleport.

BUT THEY DO!!
i was walking home once swinging my camera in my hand and accidentally pressed the shutter button, and what do you know:

 

[Oli]

HA HA!! MOMENT OF TRIUMPH!!

I knew you'd see it that way.
Nope, the "Er," was because you seem to be ignoring all of the evidence for Neanderthal's reality and claiming they're mythological.

example?

Well, the concept of god can be useful, as a concept (for example my mother's taken to going to church since my father died), but that doesn't provide any evidence of the reality or not.

perfectly proves my woo-woo theory..
i don't know what yo're talking about..
if what you're saying makes one of us stupid..

Or just uneducated in physics.

then i'm a woo-woo if most people are with you(understand it)
or you're a woo woo, if most people are like me(don't have a clue)

Depends what you mean by "most people".
I stated verified science that contradicts common sense.

BUT THEY DO!!
i was walking home once swinging my camera in my hand and accidentally pressed the shutter button, and what do you know:

Yeah, but more research is need.
Critics would claim that's been photoshopped.

 

[scifes]

I knew you'd see it that way.
Nope, the "Er," was because you seem to be ignoring all of the evidence for Neanderthal's reality and claiming they're mythological.

excellent, i say the same about god.

neanderthals are science fiction (loool, first time that's literal)

you say the same about god, we both claim to have evidence..

we woo-wooize each other..biggest number wins.

Well, the concept of god can be useful, as a concept (for example my mother's taken to going to church since my father died), but that doesn't provide any evidence of the reality or not.

but then does it matter if it is or not?

Or just uneducated in physics.

making me a woo woo, this is supposedly a science forum..

go to a teenager or soccer forum and see what you get, woo woo

Depends what you mean by "most people".
I stated verified science that contradicts common sense.

others may state common sense that contradicts "verified science"

who is forced to suck it up and get bashed is a woo woo..
that's what i mean by "most people"