Jcarl,
Fine, let it be a dream to you.
Without any factual basis for gods or souls they are dreams to everyone. Clearly I am not included, since I do not dream such things.
To say something doesn't exist and is a fantasy is to be redundant.
I’m not saying something does not exist, I’m saying it is a fantasy until someone show that it exists. Until then it only makes sense to assume it does not exist.
But you say that God doesn't exist;
No I haven’t.
so either you assume that or you have looked everywhere and not found him.
What I have shown is that God is a fantasy idea, a fiction. Whether such things can exist or not is another matter.
Doesn't one of the laws of thermodynamics say that all matter loses available energy?
You are close, but the rule only applies to a closed system. If the universe is infinite then the concept of closed has no meaning and the law cannot apply.
IF that's so, then the universe itself is running out of energy. Which then means it can't sustain itself. If it can't sustain itself, then it cannot be infinite. Thus it must've had a creator.
All based on an invalid first assumption and an apparent misunderstanding of the laws of thermodynamics.
However, the discussion on entropy is currently rampant with many theories raging for how the universe was formed, whether there is a single big bang or an infinite number of them, whether entropy actually exists or can be reversed, or even whether the laws of thermodynamics are correct or can apply to such a scenario.
So I think it is premature for you to claim that your scenario is correct and hence justify the existence of a god, but then I might not be correct either.
You've given your opinion that God is a fantasy. There is a difference between opining and showing.
But it isn’t opinion, it is fact. The only way you can prove me wrong is to show that a god exists. Until then the story of gods are just fiction. It is identical to claiming that Sherlock Holmes is a real character, but until someone presents him in the flesh then he remains fictional, the same applies to the stories about gods.
Most neuroscientists and psychologists would disagree with you.
Elaborate please.
I could list some articles I guess but I have read many now where the issue of consciousness has been seen as an entirely materialistic challenge. I.e. it is simply complex rather than impossible due to a non-physical component. I don’t think that with your perspective that you would read them.
The brain and the body as a whole show that some divine intervention.
What is your proof?
I find it hard to believe that the mechanics of the body that work so perfectly together came from anything but an intelligent designer.
There is no evidence that anything complex has ever been designed by an intelligent designer, everything we know has evolved. How do you justify your statement?
Let it be a superstition. To you it will never be anything more than that.
Unless you can present proof of course. You have no worthwhile argument unless you have some factual basis for your claims.
Doesn't mean that they're right in their interpretation. For every part of the Bible, one can only get a correct interpretation if you consider the author's intent and to whom he is writing.
OK but none of the many authors of the bible are known, let alone what they intended by their writings. The world and the environment of 2000 years ago is extremely different to imagine. There are many parts to the bible that I have read that could easily be interpreted many ways and seemingly within context. This is not a big issue since it is very obvious why so many sects exist. For example parts of the Baptist movement take the creation story and Adam and Eve literally whereas Catholicism officially supports evolution. These are two extremely major differences in interpreting the bible. So which of these two sects were inspired by Satan?
Is it a show that God didn't inspire it, or that Satan inspired some of the interpretations thereof? But you believe what want.
It simply isn’t easy to understand. Most lay people end up requesting expert guidance. Surely the most powerful being in the universe could have created a guide that was easy to understand by even the simplest of minds had he so wished. It is a mess because it has no factual basis and it was written at a time when knowledge of the universe and cultures were very different to the present.
He changed the doctrine of how people get saved; that is major.
Fine, but the concept, once examined was not that complex, but there were others who were also voicing similar ideas. In chaos theory I believe this is called a cusp point and is common throughout history where the conditions are right a seemingly dramatic epiphany will occur and usually triggered by a key player.
You are asserting that as if it were true. It is only a fantasy. Can you prove otherwise?
You are asserting that God is a fantasy; Can you prove that it's fantasy?
Certainly. There is no proof that a god exists. The ideas for a god are therefore fantasies. If an alleged object cannot be observed or detected then its concept can only exist in the human mind. This is a fantasy.
From Webster: Fantasy: - a creation of the imaginative faculty whether expressed or merely conceived.
Are you saying that the soul doesn't exist?
There is no reason to believe that it does exist. And every clinical reason to believe it does not.
Does it die at physical death?
There is no reason for it to exist in the first place so the question is redundant.
Why should a soul, something unphysical, be held to physical standards?
Because there are no unphysical standards, or any indication that anything unphysical can exist or has ever existed.
The soul would remain one part; it would just pull a trick out of the Transformer playbook and change to another form.
LOL.
Not talking about this life but the after life, where you are rewarded/ punished for your deeds on this Earth.
So a couple of quotes from Einstein again –
An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, nor do I wish it otherwise; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. [The World as I See It]
If this being is omnipotent, then every occurrence, including every human action, every human thought, and every human feeling and aspiration is also His work; how is it possible to think of holding men responsible for their deeds and thoughts before such an almighty Being? In giving out punishment and rewards He would to a certain extent be passing judgment on Himself. How can this be combined with the goodness and righteousness ascribed to Him?
[Out of My Later Years]
