why? If you don't want to get someone being yourself, why bother. Who wants a phoney?
what type of Girlfreind should i get ?
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why? If you don't want to get someone being yourself, why bother. Who wants a phoney?
Mrs.Lucysnow
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I know I don't understand the point of doing that either. Its like you would have to constantly put up a front unless you only want to get the person into bed to prove some point like the game in Dangerous Liasons.
so, how is all the extreme skillfulness working in finding a girlfriend??
ripleofdeath
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most people play games.
once or if you get to understand the human mind enough you will learn this.
what is quite interesting is the complete inability of everyone to discus the actual topic(the moral debate), admittedly most have actually no ability to understand what i am talking about.
most people are too busy tripping over their ego's and trapped by their own ego to discuss the topic, thus we define they are all "playing" an "ego game" and "not being themselves".
Oh, you just wanted to insult me. OK then. I no longer give a rat's ass. I think I'll go play in the yard with my children and then have monkey circus sex with my husband.
good luck to whoever...never mind. You'll never find a whoever.
ripleofdeath
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i have nothing to gain by insulting you.
i also had/have no intention to do so.
i was hoping someone might realise the underlying moral question of self that i have asked and discuss it on that level.
i have given up on expecting anyone to be capable of discussing the topic to be honest.
Where do you ask about the "underlying moral question of self".
Care to explain that and rephrase the question.
You think you have skills? Like Bo skills? Shot any wolverines lately? LOL!
ripleofdeath
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why on earth would i ??? "bo" ? do you mean "bow" ? the English word or "bo" the Japanese word ?
i think your just trying to play your little ego game of trying to post in a manner to allow inference to the reader that you and i have some sort of history.
that is a desire to need to win you are exhibiting there with a clear personality trait of being the try hard alpha male...
what a strange way to introduce yourself.
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Clearly you have not seen, or do not remember 'Napoleon Dynamite'.
Ah, so it is a memory problem you have.
Well, you are my bitch, so that makes me the Alpha male, yes.
Introduce, interesting. Have you such a short memory?
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
my bad my old age must be effecting my memory...
have we been in private message with each other ?
did we find common ground on some previous topic ?
if so maybe you could remind me ... ?
iceaura
that's funny
is it true that given the opportunity of total control over others that most would exercise their own wishes at the expense of others free will ?
Psychological manipulation? Well, if you can't just be "charming" or "smooth", I guess that'll work.
The next time you see a woman you think is attractive, talk to her. If you get a good conversation going, ask her out. If you go out with her and have a good time, ask her out again. If you go out a few more times and still have a good time, keep hanging out with her, you've found a girlfriend (assuming your "psychological manipulation" convinced her that she was having fun).
That's the type of girlfriend you should get; one you like.
The next time you see a woman you think is attractive, talk to her. If you get a good conversation going, ask her out. If you go out with her and have a good time, ask her out again. If you go out a few more times and still have a good time, keep hanging out with her, you've found a girlfriend (assuming your "psychological manipulation" convinced her that she was having fun).
That's the type of girlfriend you should get; one you like.
ripleofdeath
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"charm" and "smoothness" are both types of manipulation.
not only are they both "types" of manipulation, they pander to a specific preconceived form of persona that is defined as collectively attractive and desirable.
thus one could be left asking ones self...
"if i find someone who likes "charm" and "smoothness" am i just liking someone who is simply a stereo type of the common person with no real independant likes to their relationship specifics as far as personality is concerned ?"
the very minuscule moment of hesitation where one ponders "how am i supposed to do this" ?
is when your "just being you" and "being natural" all flies out the window.
following steps...
doing what you think is expected...
etc etc...
all forms of a false persona put on to achieve something that you would otherwise not achieve just being yourself.
Common ground? HARDLY! You posted loads of woowoo bullshit, and I was in the same threads, debunking it.
Only if you're trying to be charming and smooth. If you're talking to a girl, and she finds you charming, then where's the manipulation?
Or its someone who's attracted to your personality. Which is generally good for a relationship.
If you're asking yourself "how am i supposed to do this?" you're not charming or smooth. You're following a routine. Some people are naturally charming. Its part of some people's personality.
And being yourself is charming to some people.
I agree. Has it occured to you that some things are acheivable by being yourself?
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
thanks for that.
i just wanted to practice being nice to a wanker.
if you had any original thought ever you would debunk it.
preferably with a large wooden mallet.
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
how many men/boys try to "impress a women to get her to have sex with him or go out with him" ?
= manipulation
yes but i can simply put on a personality like some people put on an accent.
i do have a natural personality but i rarely let it out of the bag in public as most people cant deal with it because it is too intellectually smart and androgynous which upsets a vast majority of people around me
very few people are switched on enough to understand my normal personality as i like to joke about allot and use sarcasm and move on various different levels touching on lots of different aspects of things many people need a leg up to even propose as a point for discussion.
thus i "cant" be myself to interact otherwise i cant interact..
it is like speaking a language they don't understand.
highly intelligent people understand me who have worldly experience.
but for the majority of society i need to change my personality to allow them to understand basic conversation and for them not to end up standing there feeling stupid and then attempting to hit out at others because they feel emotionally vulnerable...
you see... things have a cascading effect.
this is "reality" i am talking about not "idealistic little paradigms of "everyone is nice and well balanced" bullshit.
i am naturally charming with nice people(people i like who don't have any observable outward sexual dysfunctions).
indeed... perception of preconceived actions being defined as a nature of personality = set of rules.(observer effect defines this)
absolutely !
but not many... in fact sweet fuck all.
i have found over the years i have to gradually allow people to see my personality as time goes on or they go all weird.
if personality involves actions to define it then where does one draw the line of interaction with another to define ones self as being true but not intrusively/offensive ?
charm can be offensive to some people as if you are asking them to bend over and drop their pants while you do them from behind.'