Ophiolite said:Oh how boring I am become. I am sure Starman and Sly1 that goverments lie from time to time. That has nothing to do with the fact that Starman's object is a small hill. Starman, please tell me you plan to visit the site soon so we can all move on.
goofyfish said:Whoops! Actually, you have to try harder to get in to prove
you are right! As the claimant the burden is, of course, yours.
:m: Peace.
Stryder said:Starman
Lets just hypothesis. Lets say a government finds a nice deposit of radioactive material, they aren't exactly going to want tourists running around getting radiation poisoning are they?
If you want to prove that there is anything special in that region, why don't you look for geological surveys, or even better find a Geophysicist that is aquainted with the area..
Stryder said:As for "Lights in the air", I have to be very skeptical
JoojooSpaceape said:There’s a starman waiting in the sky
He’d like to come and meet us
But he thinks he’d blow our minds
There’s a starman waiting in the sky
He’s told us not to blow it
Cause he knows it’s all worthwhile
He told me:
Let the children lose it
Let the children use it
Let all the children boogie
Starman said:Nice riddle.
phlogistician said:Riiiight, you were supposedly born in 1960, and you don't recognise lyrics by David Bowie?
Boris2 said:speaking of "crashed disks"
http://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/Physics10/chapters/9-SecretsofUFOs.html
first i have heard this version of roswell.
An individual I have known very well for several years has acquainted me with several incidents he has experienced first hand. Now the ones I wish to address here are not UFO related, but are pertinent to a discussion of debunking and eye witness testimony. The individual has creative skills, but is also level headed and pragmatic. I am also certain that in matters such as this he is scrupulously honest.btimsah said:A good example is the need to dismiss testimony, because, it does not support their debunking. This is a last ditch effort, usually, when they have no other option than to claim the witness is "wrong".
Ophiolite said:An individual I have known very well for several years has acquainted me with several incidents he has experienced first hand. Now the ones I wish to address here are not UFO related, but are pertinent to a discussion of debunking and eye witness testimony. The individual has creative skills, but is also level headed and pragmatic. I am also certain that in matters such as this he is scrupulously honest.
Each of these events took place when he was sober and in good health.
On two occasions, separated by about four years, he saw a ghost in his bedroom. Each apparition was clear, identifiable and remained visible for a period of at least thirty seconds. In one case the room was moonlit, in the other case ceiling hung filament bulbs were in use.
Some years previously he and three members of his family heard scratching at their appartment door that matched the pattern of a neighgbour's dog which used to call, but had recently died. The scratching continued to the point when the door handle was touched to open the door. Nothing was there and there was no conceivable way any dog could have fled the hallway in the time between the last scratch and the door opening. The same event occured at least another three times over about two months.
Based on my knowledge of this individual and my belief in his integrity should I take these experiences as solid evidence for ghosts? Or should I, as I am inclined to do, wearing my skeptic's hat, reject it as hallucination or some other more plausible explanation?
btsimah, this may seem contrived, but the facts set out above are real. I will go further. I do reject these incidents as evidence for ghosts. Do you think I am wrong to do so? And if so, why? .