It is quite funny, looks like an art class of year one.
Tornadoe's and Zero Point Theory
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yeah we have a lot of cyclones here.....most are fairly minor though...
I would be seriously inclined to believe that if selected historical data for cyclonic type weather [hurricanes, typhoons, cyclones], eathquakes, solar flares, was put through the hoop using a main frame and with the understanding of CCOGs, tension as a way of perspective major co-relationships between for earthquakes, cyclonic weather and even solar flares may be established.
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An idea just came to mind... that if proven/validated, mankind could actually create artificial CCOGS and attract a tracking tornado for example away from municipal areas... hmmmm...eh..just thinking out loud...
Just have to wait now for Alphanumeric and Prom to come along and say it is all nonsense and there is no logic to it...and you can be sure it's a winner...[chuckle](shouldn't take long)
Just have to wait now for Alphanumeric and Prom to come along and say it is all nonsense and there is no logic to it...and you can be sure it's a winner...[chuckle](shouldn't take long)
didn't think it would take long, welcome back Origin...[chuckle]
It's amazing what you can pick up once you have another approach...
For example:
All cyclonic weather, appears to be directly related to either subterrainian liquids or ocean water.
Tornado alley in the USA is predominantly "oil country" If I am not mistaken. With significant liquid oil reserves under ground stretching right through the central states of the USA.
All tropical cyclones start over large expanses of ocean water and track towards land [ generally ]
Given that what we are discussing is the formation of a zero point center of gravity due to the culmination of gravitational attractions in a given "zone" the fact that in both the tornado and cyclone cases involve "liquids" I feel is a great precurser for further research. [ And possible validation ]
I guess what I am saying is that once you know what to look for it is amazing what you can find.
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@Gerhard,
Regrading the other thread: you will also note that the pyramids of Egypt were built in an area with significant underground liquid reserves in the form of oil. Edit: LNG Liquid Natural Gas
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Note also that most of the inland areas of Australila which most Australian [North Eastern] cyclones tend to track towards have massive subterrainean artesian water resources. [needs research to quanitfy]
*with Cyclone Yasi turning into a massive rain front as it moved inland the area shown in this map of subterainean artesian water could virtually be used to indicate the scale of surface flooding that devastated Queensland at that time [ 75% of queensland declared flooded]
Prompts the questions:
1925:
1925:
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In other words, the proposition, if one looks at the liquid state of the subterranean ground masses or the below sea level masses... such as oceans etc one could find even further associations to aid in understanding of how and where these weather systems form and why they move the way they do.
And it is only with the understanding of Zero Point Theory, and applying compatible scientific beliefs that provides the direction to look in.
For example:
All cyclonic weather, appears to be directly related to either subterrainian liquids or ocean water.
Tornado alley in the USA is predominantly "oil country" If I am not mistaken. With significant liquid oil reserves under ground stretching right through the central states of the USA.
All tropical cyclones start over large expanses of ocean water and track towards land [ generally ]
Given that what we are discussing is the formation of a zero point center of gravity due to the culmination of gravitational attractions in a given "zone" the fact that in both the tornado and cyclone cases involve "liquids" I feel is a great precurser for further research. [ And possible validation ]
I guess what I am saying is that once you know what to look for it is amazing what you can find.
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@Gerhard,
Regrading the other thread: you will also note that the pyramids of Egypt were built in an area with significant underground liquid reserves in the form of oil. Edit: LNG Liquid Natural Gas
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Note also that most of the inland areas of Australila which most Australian [North Eastern] cyclones tend to track towards have massive subterrainean artesian water resources. [needs research to quanitfy]
*with Cyclone Yasi turning into a massive rain front as it moved inland the area shown in this map of subterainean artesian water could virtually be used to indicate the scale of surface flooding that devastated Queensland at that time [ 75% of queensland declared flooded]
Prompts the questions:
- If the ground water state of tension was increased due to a drop in pressure would this lead to the need for climate to attempt to adjust accordingly.
- Did tornadoes occur in the USA as frequently prior to the oil boom and the subsequent depletion of oil stocks?
1925:
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1925:
ref: http://www.pan-tex.net/usr/p/pampa-hist/pa01005.htm
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so can an association with oil exploitation of central USA be found with the contemporary advent of tornadoes?
In other words, the proposition, if one looks at the liquid state of the subterranean ground masses or the below sea level masses... such as oceans etc one could find even further associations to aid in understanding of how and where these weather systems form and why they move the way they do.
And it is only with the understanding of Zero Point Theory, and applying compatible scientific beliefs that provides the direction to look in.
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As a matter of interest:
copy of letter sent to ABOM:
copy of letter sent to ABOM:
automated response:
I have managed to install the initiation points onto a google map and then edited the image placing the tectonic data...
unfortunately results are not as conclusive as anticipated...
ref: http://zeropointtheory.com/index.php/cyclones
Data includes all recorded cyclones formation [initiation] points between the years 1956 and current 2012
Mind you... A limitation of the formation point data, would be the moment when the BOM declared the weather to be a cyclone. Prior to this moment there is no easy acces to data.
unfortunately results are not as conclusive as anticipated...
ref: http://zeropointtheory.com/index.php/cyclones
Data includes all recorded cyclones formation [initiation] points between the years 1956 and current 2012
Mind you... A limitation of the formation point data, would be the moment when the BOM declared the weather to be a cyclone. Prior to this moment there is no easy acces to data.
It is never as interesting in the conservative sections...can't blame him heading here...it is a mess though, I'll admit that!
change is never liked...until it is realised that it is necessary for their own welfare....
There has just been a major earthquake hit of the coast of the Philippines 7.2 magnitude .. no tsunami.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-31/tsunami-warning-issued-after-quake-hits-off-philippines/4237556?WT.mc_id=newsmail
it will be very interesting to see if we experience a major solar flare CME shortly [ next 30 days ] if the events mentioned earlier of Earthquakes, Solar CME surrounding the advent of Cyclone Yasi are indicative.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-31/tsunami-warning-issued-after-quake-hits-off-philippines/4237556?WT.mc_id=newsmail
it will be very interesting to see if we experience a major solar flare CME shortly [ next 30 days ] if the events mentioned earlier of Earthquakes, Solar CME surrounding the advent of Cyclone Yasi are indicative.
Earthquake data c/o http://research.dlindquist.com/quake/historical/?mag=6&type=avgstrength&freq=year&style=nonlinear
includes the recent Philipines Earthquake
03-09-2012
data source:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/neic/
[ large font text added by myself]
with another 4 months of stats/data collection to go for the year 2012, it's pretty obvious what the trend is...
03-09-2012:
Feed src: http://feeds.feedburner.com/adorraeli/tsEq
includes the recent Philipines Earthquake
03-09-2012
data source:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/neic/
[ large font text added by myself]
with another 4 months of stats/data collection to go for the year 2012, it's pretty obvious what the trend is...
03-09-2012:
src of feed: thewatchers.adorraeli.com/
A new phase of activity has started at Krakatau volcano. A large explosion occurred early today September 3, 2012 (01:32 UTC) and produced an ash plume that reached 14,000 ft (4.2 km) according to Darwin VAAC.
Volcanic ash from the increasingly active Anak Krakatau has reached a number of areas in Lampung, prompting officials to issue a warning for local residents and tourists. According to state news agency Antara, the ash was carried by wind from the southeast to the south, reaching Bandarlampung, about 130 kilometers away from Krakatau.
“It is rather unusual for the dust to be this thick,” said Juniardi, a resident of Bandarlampung who complained that the falling dust was also hampering visibility. (Jakarta Globe)
A report from the volcanology office in Bandung shows that the activities of Anak Krakatau has been on the rise over the past few days, reaching almost 90 eruptions per day.
Feed src: http://feeds.feedburner.com/adorraeli/tsEq
An interesting and possibly tragic event is currently evolving near Japan.
It appears that Samba has suddenly increased in strength from a tropical storm to a Cat 5 Hurricane over a 24 hour period as it moves along the fault line.
As proposed by the hypothesis described in this thead, the sudden growth of the storm into a Cat 5 Hurricane is due to tension build up in the fault line with a intense CCOG [culminate center of gravity] at the point where the cyclone suddenly gathered strength.
Prediction:
If the hypothesis of siemic causation for hurricanes is valid we should see at least one very strong earthquake >9M with in the next 30 days [ similar to the scenario suggested with Cyclone Yasi and Fukushima/Christchurch]
We should also experience massive and extraodinary solar activity with in the next 60 days or sooner.
This prediction is in line with >7+ Earthquake trends for the years leading up to now and the end of this year... [ anticipation of at least 1 major earthquake event in excess of 8M for the year 2012]
[video=youtube_share;YQn-XNrsMHI]http://youtu.be/YQn-XNrsMHI[/video]
src: http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/09/14/supertyphoon/
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note: the graph does not include a completed year for this year 2012... 4 months to go..
src: http://research.dlindquist.com/quake/historical/?mag=8&type=avgstrength&freq=year&style=nonlinear
It appears that Samba has suddenly increased in strength from a tropical storm to a Cat 5 Hurricane over a 24 hour period as it moves along the fault line.
As proposed by the hypothesis described in this thead, the sudden growth of the storm into a Cat 5 Hurricane is due to tension build up in the fault line with a intense CCOG [culminate center of gravity] at the point where the cyclone suddenly gathered strength.
Prediction:
If the hypothesis of siemic causation for hurricanes is valid we should see at least one very strong earthquake >9M with in the next 30 days [ similar to the scenario suggested with Cyclone Yasi and Fukushima/Christchurch]
We should also experience massive and extraodinary solar activity with in the next 60 days or sooner.
This prediction is in line with >7+ Earthquake trends for the years leading up to now and the end of this year... [ anticipation of at least 1 major earthquake event in excess of 8M for the year 2012]
[video=youtube_share;YQn-XNrsMHI]http://youtu.be/YQn-XNrsMHI[/video]
src: http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/09/14/supertyphoon/
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note: the graph does not include a completed year for this year 2012... 4 months to go..
src: http://research.dlindquist.com/quake/historical/?mag=8&type=avgstrength&freq=year&style=nonlinear
src: http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/09/27/jelawat-2/
second super typhoon of the season. Appears to be tracking towards Mt Fuji Japan, which is under intense siesmic pressure at the moment. Might prove interesting.
Hypothetically Mt Fuji's magma chamber tension levels is attracting the typhoon(s). The general siesmic tension of the local tectonic plate system generating the typhoon to begin with.
well I ask you "origin", to look at the rational and ask whether it is a reasonable enquiry or not.Well, at least your always good for a laugh.Thanks.
We have two unusual super typhoons [cat 5] in a very short time undergoing "Explosive" intensification at approximately the same spot on a tectonic plate fault line. [off the coast of the Philipines.]
You also have at the same time warnings being issued about the possibility of Mt Fuji erupting due to a signficiant increase in magma chamber pressure/tension. Both Typhoons have or are tracking towards the Japanese mainland. This latest one is predicted to pass over Mt Fuji.
It has been discussed earlier in this thead that there may be a relationship between tornado's and other cyclonic weather and siesmic activity generating Culminant Centre of Gravitation, points of tension that the weather attempts to stabilise by it's behaviour.
Mt Fuji is one such significant tension point....
It will be interesting to see what happens regarding what the latest Super Typhoon does, relative to Mt Fuji.
Origin , do you see a problem with this line of enquiry? If so in what way?
to say that Volcanos don't hold tension would be a mistake IMO as demonstrated by this video of volcanic lightening.
[video=youtube;iwzI7hHvLCM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwzI7hHvLCM[/video]
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Yep that is what we have, it is unusual two have to storms of this magnitude. The location of formation and intensification makes sense based on the wind paterns, humidity and sea temperatures, though.
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Kind of changed topics there a bit, didn't you. Well it is a bit of an over statement to say there is a warning of Mt Fuji erupting, but I did see that a study showed an increase in the magma chamber pressure.
Ah, back to typhoons. Yes, I see that the super typhoon is tracking towards Japan luckily it is forecasted to decrease in intensity - let's hope so!
Well sure but that was just made up stuff. I mean nobody is actually going to take that seriously! You might as well say that the radiation from the wrecked nuclear reactor in Japan is pulling in the typhoon (it is going to go right over the reactor!).
Oh, come on. You are just being silly, I don’t think you believe that .
I am more interested in seeing what happens in relation to the damaged reactor – golly it is so exciting.
Yes, I believe it is retarded. It is retarded in just about every conceivable way.
IMO (and anyone with a lick of sense) it would be retarded to consider that a volcano has any relationship to typhoons.
What is the lightening from the ash cloud suppose to show besides the effect of a static electricity build up in the ash cloud?
yep just one factor may be missing...
the topic is the issue of siesmic activity [tension] relational to the generation of significant weather ...so it is right on topic...
never left the topic, see above...
well sure ... that what hypotheisis is...and if proven to be the case will be taken seriously...duh!
If Fuji Blows in a big way then the reactor issue becomes uhm... rather moot don't you think?
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Also the earthquake trends indicate a possible 9+ quake any time now...which is what this thread is monitoring...[ The advent of significant weather [cat 5 Typhoon x2 is deemed significant] being used as an indicator for serious seismic tension build up. Re: Cyclone Yasi , Christchruch and Fukushima quakes. [& subsequent sola flare]
There is actualy much debate on the nature of volcanic lightening...as there appears to be some emminating from with in the volcanos and not just the clouds. Indicating an extreme spacial tension build up inside the volcano which is released during a eruption by way of lightening being evidenced. And of course it is static electricity...what else could it be...
see graph below:
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Would you agree that the trend would be suggestive of at least 1 possibly 2, 8(9)+mag. eathquake(s) any time now?
As a matter of interest I put together a quick image with the Philipines plate displayed along with both super typhoons.
The image also shows Mt Fuji located on or very near a convergent fault line.
It appears My Fuji is located right on the convergence between a subduction and convergent boundary as is near by Tokyo.. [35 million people]
The nuclear power plant at Fukushima is not that far from this convergent boundary. [Why they built the thing there of all places is any ones guess]
The image also shows Mt Fuji located on or very near a convergent fault line.
It appears My Fuji is located right on the convergence between a subduction and convergent boundary as is near by Tokyo.. [35 million people]
The nuclear power plant at Fukushima is not that far from this convergent boundary. [Why they built the thing there of all places is any ones guess]
Based on the hypothesis the formation of two super typhoons Sanba and Jelewat are indicating serious/significant tension build up in the Philipines plate. Mt Fuji's current pressure/tension state is also indicating similar.wiki said: