786 said:
Ok see now we come to the point of if Jesus is God? I made a thread, and you participated. If you wish to discuss this then post over there, because now no one is responding for the smiple fact Jesus never claimed to be God
"and born without a earthly fahter"
if this is a condition of being God, then Adam is a greater God because he had neither mother or Father.
Jesus was with God from the beginning, Adam was not. Adam was the first man, but even so, Jesus was before him. Jesus is Gods Son. He is also described as Gods Son in the Bible. Gods only begotten son.
"why would they say that if they knew themselves as sons of God"
Well first I would like to know the verse, because context matters. But anyways as we all know that Jesus wasn't liked by the Jews. Meaning they would NOT consider him the Son of God. It is possible that Jesus did something which made them realize that yes Jesus is the Son of God. But for me to give you a precise and more accurate answer I would need to know the verse, so I can see what the context is.
Peace be unto you
Matthew 14:
31Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"
32And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down.
33Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
Also interesting is;
Matthew 4:
6"If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written:
" 'He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
and;
Matthew 27:
54When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, "Surely he was the Son of God!"
John 10:30
I and the Father are one."
and we finish with this, but there is probably more;
John 10:
33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
34Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'?
35If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—
36what about the one whom the Father set apart as
his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?
37Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
38But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father."
39Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
In the swedish version of the bible the bold text is a bit different though, instead of "set apart as his very own" it said "made holy".
I don't know why that occured but nevertheless Jesus was understood to be Gods Son, so to the degree that they accused Him of blasphemy.