Originally posted by Markx
Thats a long way to say "I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER"Originally posted by Vienna
Save your criousity for death. You don't care what I say any ways ...correct?? You don't want to listen anything but what you wishes to listen. Look friend, you know that you have extreme views about every one who doesn't agree with you and you know it well.
The Real Name of the Muslim Messiah
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Originally posted by Vienna
Thats a long way to say "I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER"
Really? If I give you answer you will consider it mockery against your religion. I understand, you don't want any one to mock your religion but you can mock theirs...some fundamentlist christian way.
Originally posted by Markx
Really? If I give you answer you will consider it mockery against your religion. I understand, you don't want any one to mock your religion but you can mock theirs...some fundamentlist christian way.
Do you mind if I mock the hell out of christianty?
I can act exactly like Vienna and I won't be very nice Vienna. haha
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Proud_Syrian
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Vienna:
I found something very interesting about your CHRISTIAN HERO:
''Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
Another popular one is this, from a speech in 1922:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter."
DID YOU GUESS WHO SAID THE ABOVE ??????????????
I found something very interesting about your CHRISTIAN HERO:
''Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
Another popular one is this, from a speech in 1922:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter."
DID YOU GUESS WHO SAID THE ABOVE ??????????????
Adolf Hitler
And by the way this is the last time I will tell you I AM NOT CHRISTIAN got it, deaf lugs.
" Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
There are many quotes where Hitler extolled Christianity and even compared himself to Jesus, but as we have seen, his view of Christianity was quite muddled. The problem lay with Hitler and not with the scriptures themselves, he was responsible for the decisions that he made and the actions that he undertook.
Standing alone, the quote appears to refer to Jesus and Christianity as Hitler's reason for defending himself against the Jew, but a closer examination shows otherwise. As was already stated, that is only the last sentence of Hitler's quote. The sentence begins with the word "hence" meaning "therefore" "from this cause" "for that reason." So Hitler's reason for believing that he is acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator by defending himself against the Jew comes before the word "hence". The entire quote is as follows:
"The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
If, with the help of the Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of year ago, move through the ether devoid of men.
Eternal Nature inexorably avenges the infringement of her commands.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."7
Again, Hitler is basing this on politics, nation, and race. As we have seen in a previous Hitler quote, he believed that the Aryans must fight for the purity of their blood and maintain their superior race; they had a mission allotted to them by the Creator of the Universe. He felt that their superiority was a God-given right. The concept of Marxism, where the aspiration was for all people to belong to one equal class, robbed Hitler of the superiority that he thought the Aryan race deserved. The eternal privilege of power allotted to the Aryan by the Almighty Creator is taken away by the equality of the masses. The principle of equality was nonsense to Hitler, for he believed in the aristocratic principle of Nature that placed the Aryan race above all others. He believed that the concept of what he called "Jewish Marxism" denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and culture and the result would be chaos and destruction for the inhabitants of this planet. He felt that the concept was a crime against God and nature and HENCE he believed that he was acting in the will of the Almighty Creator by defending himself against the Jew. It had nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity. The New Testament does not preach racial superiority, as a matter of fact, the scriptures exhort equality and humility and express that no one is superior to anyone else, and that is the very concept that Hitler strongly stood against.
"Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others." Philippians 2:3
"Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves." Romans 12:10
The mistake has been corrected.
It's official. The word is out. Abu Ba'aja is the Prophet.
Here is the reference:
The primary source about the original name of Mohammed---Abu Ba'aja---is the ancient Arabian poetry, and Abdur Rahman Badawi's book [A History of Atheism in Islam] references all those relevant poems.
That is final.
Now let me ask you a question!
What does, regarding this topic, constitute, in your opinion, a decisive evidence?
In other words, at what point you will throw your hands in the air and say: {Marx, ProudSyrian........That is it. I'm now convinced that Abu Ba'aja is the pre-Islamic name of Mohammed}?
What is the decisive evidence? What kind of proof will convince you? Please, give a clear and honest answer!
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WildBlueYonder
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Vienna, the problem with a lot of fundamentals (islam or otherwise), is that you (as their enemy) has to fit in a pre-conceived category. Thus as a Westerner, you are automatically a Christian, until you convert to islam, then you'll always be RIGHT!
Hitler was coocoo for cocoa puffs, he also blamed everybody else, but his people for their problems, hmmm, sounds like a muslim to me
hmmm, sounds like a naturalists to me, darn those greens!
many in the West, both Christian & non- , have not, can not, nor will they live under those words.
it's too hard for human nature to bow down to others more humble than ourselves, as it would to our superiors (as to emperors, kings, etc.)because we'll get punished if we don't bow to the king, but those that turn the other cheek, usually get the poo knocked out of them, in this society as well as others
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Proud_Syrian
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Is it that easy to abandon your faith when you get cornered ???
One time you invite muslims to be christians, and now you are saying you are not christian any more !!!
Are you Ok vienna ? I am worried about your mental health ?
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WildBlueYonder
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Islam has it backwards
Stop talking about muslims again, you shouldn’t tell everybody about the background of your religion.
Meaning?
I don’t drink, but you're drunk on idolatry.don't believe me? ask yourself, "why mohammad didn't convert to Judaism or Christianity? If he believed he was following in the footsteps of the prophets, why did he start a new religion? one that no one had heard of before? and don't tell me that Moses, David & Jesus were muslims, that is so un-historical, that it’s hysterical
If Jesus rejects me, it’s because of something else I do, like not ‘turning the other cheek’
As this site explains:
http://www.terrorismanswers.com/afghanistan/taliban.html
“friend”, why thank you, it’s refreshing to know that people that oppose each other publicly, can still be friends
Not me, why should I be? Why, are you planning violence?Originally posted by Markx
I’m not a Baptists, but I have been baptized. I didn’t know that Baptist churches had paramilitary training programs, hey! Have you turned them in to the FBI? Or are you just assuming again, just because your mosque does?
Stop talking about muslims again, you shouldn’t tell everybody about the background of your religion.
Meaning?
I don’t drink, but you're drunk on idolatry.don't believe me? ask yourself, "why mohammad didn't convert to Judaism or Christianity? If he believed he was following in the footsteps of the prophets, why did he start a new religion? one that no one had heard of before? and don't tell me that Moses, David & Jesus were muslims, that is so un-historical, that it’s hysterical
If Jesus rejects me, it’s because of something else I do, like not ‘turning the other cheek’
Paul can’t save anyone anyway, same as Mohammad can't
why would it depend on a moon-god? Silly pagan, allah can’t save either
You mean talib?
As this site explains:
http://www.terrorismanswers.com/afghanistan/taliban.html
“friend”, why thank you, it’s refreshing to know that people that oppose each other publicly, can still be friends
agh, & here I thought you were the one ranting, silly me!
In what? Reverse thinking? Thanks for sparing me
ahh, why would I want to go to L.A. or to that mosque in particular? Do they specialize in converting Christians into muslims?
I know too much already
Me too
You would be better off as a Christian, anything is better than being a muslim.Originally posted by Proud_Syrian
Is it that easy to abandon your faith when you get cornered ???
One time you invite muslims to be christians, and now you are saying you are not christian any more !!!
Are you Ok vienna ? I am worried about your mental health ?
I hate Islam and all it stands for. It is racist, intolerant, sexist, undemocratic, opressive by principle and brutal and savage in practice.
All those countries that practice Islam as a political governing tool should be de-islamicified just like Germany was de-Nazified.
Originally posted by AAF
The mistake has been corrected.
It's official. The word is out. Abu Ba'aja is the Prophet.
Here is the reference:
The primary source about the original name of Mohammed---Abu Ba'aja---is the ancient Arabian poetry, and Abdur Rahman Badawi's book [A History of Atheism in Islam] references all those relevant poems.
!
Geez man, what a proof you got for the bilions of muslims and disregarded the 1500 years of history and that one poetry became a proof to deny the whole history. Thank you AAF, it was really some proof. I mean what have I been doing all my life??? I missed the darn poetry, I missed the most important piece of history and yet you proved the history of Islam by that poetry.
Now, let me ask you what difference does it make to me if and it is a bigest if the name was Mohammed or something else? lol.
Originally posted by Markx
Geez man, what a proof you got for the bilions of muslims and disregarded the 1500 years of history and that one poetry became a proof to deny the whole history. Thank you AAF, it was really some proof. I mean what have I been doing all my life??? I missed the darn poetry, I missed the most important piece of history and yet you proved the history of Islam by that poetry.
Now, let me ask you what difference does it make to me if and it is a bigest if the name was Mohammed or something else? lol.
Your 'HolyQuran' is poetry as well. Don't you know that?
So it goes without saying, what is good for the gander is good for the goose.
In any case, as far as history is concerned poetry is a very reliable source. You should be embarassed of looking down on poetry. Shouldn't you?
Finally, you asked this question: "what difference does it make to me if and it is a bigest if the name was Mohammed or something else"? It makes big difference. First, it is a historical fact that must be known. Second, it means devout Muslims, like you, have been 'suckers' all the time. They don't even know the original name of their 'Beloved Prophet'! What a shame! What unmitigated ignorance!
I would love to have Vienna my big sister.
I don't mind at all being her 'little brother or sister'.
At least, I could borrow 'her AVERAGE CAR' sometimes.
But don't try by asking silly questions like these to avoid the serious questions I have asked you.
In particular, what kind of proof and decisive evidence will convince you that Abu Ba'aja is your Prophet?
Originally posted by AAF
Your 'HolyQuran' is poetry as well. Don't you know that?
So it goes without saying, what is good for the gander is good for the goose.
In any case, as far as history is concerned poetry is a very reliable source. You should be embarassed of looking down on poetry. Shouldn't you?
Finally, you asked this question: "what difference does it make to me if and it is a bigest if the name was Mohammed or something else"? It makes big difference. First, it is a historical fact that must be known. Second, it means devout Muslims, like you, have been 'suckers' all the time. They don't even know the original name of their 'Beloved Prophet'! What a shame! What unmitigated ignorance!
Awwww ...............is no one listening to you?.
. Re-writing history eh?
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Proud_Syrian
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You know there is famous Hadith(saying ) for the great prophet Muhammad(pbuh) which says:
'' Anyone who hear about Islam and Allah Almighty and does not believe will end up in hell''
now, after hearing about Islam for such a long time vienna, it is your choice......save yourself eternal hell where blood will boil in your head...
skip your jewish roots and embrace Islam, it is the only way out.