Big Chiller
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The Quran on Seas and Rivers:
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It's quite clear that the authors of the Qur'an thought the world is flat. But, that aside, isn't there some amazing prophesies about female menstruation in the Qur'an? Allah, for example, knew menstrual blood was "impure" and Allah amazing knoew that Allah didn't like it when women prayed to Allah when being visited by the monthly-blood-Jinn fairies. Oh, and baby-batter comes from the ribs via the kidney.
Hey I have an idea, lets waste an entire lifetime trying to figure out what some obscure Syrian Christian sect stoned on hashish was crapping on about between munchies...
Hey I have an idea, lets waste an entire lifetime trying to figure out what some obscure Syrian Christian sect stoned on hashish was crapping on about between munchies...
Only science discovers facts scientifically. God can reveal them without need for experiments- so sure its not revealed 'scientifically'- but why must information be given scientifically if its true.
Peace be unto you
It must be verifiable, and special: it means nothing to credibility to claim that, say, fire burns wood, or that the sun will probably rise in the morning. Neither of these claims would be particularly prophetic in the period the Quran was written.
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Big Chiller
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Hardly there are verses in the quran that describe the earth as flat and the center of the universe.
13:2 Allah it is Who raised up the heavens without visible supports, then mounted the Throne, and compelled the sun and the moon to be of service, each runneth unto an appointed term; He ordereth the course; He detaileth the revelations, that haply ye may be certain of the meeting with your Lord.
13:3 And He it is Who spread out the earth and placed therein firm hills and flowing streams, and of all fruits He placed therein two spouses (male and female). He covereth the night with the day. Lo! herein verily are portents for people who take thought.
15:19 And the earth have We spread out, and placed therein firm hills, and caused each seemly thing to grow therein.
18:86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.
18:90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom
21:33 And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.
27:61 Is not He (best) Who made the earth a fixed abode, and placed rivers in the folds thereof, and placed firm hills therein, and hath set a barrier between the two seas ? Is there any God beside Allah ? Nay, but most of them know not!
Etc. etc if god is the author of the quran then he is an uneducated idiot.
Guru
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Koran is not a word of God it is just a hate mongering book dictated by a pedophile called Mohammed .. why to read too much into such a literature ..just because there are 1 billion mindless cult following the word of a terrorist .. and no peace be upon him .. the pain Islam has given this civilization can only be compared to Xianity and CIA.
Gotta see it first. There are no revelations in the English translation I read, and the examples of alleged Arabic candidates presented so far are of human gullibility, not divine revelation - they are not, for starters, revelations at all. They are, universally so far, interpretations of text presented as matching scientific discoveries already made.786 said:
I claim that no one has ever had a physical fact revealed to them - made known for the first time to human awareness - by the Quran. Do you have a counterexample?
And the Author of Dienetics is Xenu (pbuh).
Ironic isn't it, that the Authors of the Qur'an clearly thought that the Earth was flat. Historically this was indeed the case.
Big Chiller
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Firstly, you should have quoted only two of these verses to illustrate your scheme second thanks for also being wrong and proving me right. It's QUITE a stretch to assume these verses are implying the earth is flat. People like you make a mockery of the Quran and themselves by taking all of it's verses literally.
Regarding your audacity and arrogance toward God no matter how desperate one gets the truth doesn't change.
Big Chiller
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Here is another translation
21:33 It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
Besides the verse doesn't say anyhting about the sun orbiting the earth.
21:33 It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course.
Besides the verse doesn't say anyhting about the sun orbiting the earth.
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That says the sun swims along in its rounded course, and so do all the other celestial bodies.chiller said:
The stars don't. The sun doesn't either, unless you stretch the interpretation beyond normal reason. The moon has interpretation difficulties as well - the simplest is to interpret the verse as the moon doing whatever the sun is doing, which would be wrong. There is no real way to interpret that as the moon orbiting the sun, as it does.
You appear to be taking your interpretation of a book for God. The audacity and arrogance of that would be hard to top.chiller said:
Big Chiller
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Nice job being moronic, the stars and the sun just happen to be in orbit around the center of the galaxy.
Ah gibberish.
Not all of them.chiller said:
But let that slide, take this: And the moon as well, of course.
That must be what the Quran was talking about, instead of the way it was interpreted for a thousand years.
So for all that time, when it was read as talking about the earth not moving and everything in the sky moving on rounded paths above it: were those interpretations the infallible scripture of Allah then, as well?
Or is it the modern interpretations that are infallible, only?