The Holy Spirit Explored (Scripture & Photos Examined)

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"Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony."

That you do not accept the testimony is all the evidence you need.
 
Photizo said:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony."
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Yeah, the "funny" part here is that your "evidence" is a book that has not only not been shown to be correct but that has been shown to be verifiably wrong on so many subjects.
And, of course, you don't "know", you believe.
There's a subtle, but vitally important difference, between those two.

That you do not accept the testimony is all the evidence you need.
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Which just goes to show that you don't know what "evidence" means.
 
I think the big thing all people of religion need to remember is that we are to be humble in our worship, to do so for the praise of God, not to show off for others.
 
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In my defense, I have provided photographs of my findings.
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There were four images in your first post. Two were obviously art works. It isn't clear what the third was, though it looks to me like a detail from a painting. The last image doesn't display on my browser.

It's already been pointed out (repeatedly) that 'orbs' sometimes appear in photographs. They are typically optical artifacts such as lens flares. I'd guess that similar optical defects can occur in the eye as well.

My claim is that the photographs are of the Holy Spirit.
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How do you know that? People (Spidergoat prominent among them) have already pointed out that whatever anomalous images may exist are open to many different interpretations. We need more argument for why your personal interpretation is the correct one.

The Holy Bible is a good resource book on the Holy Spirit.
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Well sure, since it's seemingly where the idea originated. (It's possible that the idea of holy spirits predates the Bible in earlier Middle Eastern mythology. I'm not sure about that.)

The logical problem is connecting what may or may not be anomalous images with the Holy Spirit idea. That still looks a bit like a personal leap of faith on your part.

So if one is to understand the photographs and my claim, one needs to consult scripture for a description of Him. There is scripture supporting my findings and my claims of the Holy Spirit being in orbital form and bearing witness.
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That's getting out in front of the horse in my opinion. It only makes sense if we already accept your fundamental thesis that your images (artworks, photographs or whatever they are) are indeed evidence of the existence of the Bible's 'Holy Spirit'. If we already believe that, then sure, we probably should consult the Bible to see what more it says.

My findings, along with my colleagues
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Your colleagues? Do you picture yourself as some kind of scholar?

findings of Noah's Ark and the Egyptian chariots under the Red Sea, suggest that the Holy Bible is a reliable source of information. I present scripture as a reliable source of information about the truth of the Holy Spirit. In few other books is the Holy Spirit described. So to understand the photographs that I have presented of the Holy Spirit, scripture must be consulted. I understand that there is at lot of confusion in the world about scripture and those photographs. And this makes presenting my case even harder. I am willing to show patience in addressing any concerns to the contrary. I have witnessed some sincere and heart felt comments on this thread and am willing to continue.
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Condescension works best when a person is in the position to pull it off.

Also, a mature and legitimate argument against my claim suggested that the photographs are of photographic anomalies.
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Or optical anomalies, associated with lenses.

Although, there are photographic anomalies which are in the shape of an orb, they are not what I speak of in my findings. I have provided ample testimonies of people bearing witness to having seen the orbs with their naked eyes.
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Eyes are optical systems with lenses.

Many people witnessing the orb in this world believe it to be spiritual in nature. It has been called a spirit orb, angel orb, Ezekiel's wheels and a supernatural orb as well. It is one of the unsolved mysteries of this world. I am here staking claim to having solved that mystery...it is indeed the Holy Spirit.

My findings are important and demonstrate God's presence in the world today.
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And that's where the whole thing turns into a statement of your own personal belief.

It may (or may not) be vaguely interesting from a psychological and sociological perspective that you possess particular beliefs. But those beliefs still aren't very plausible at this point for those of us who don't already share them. If you want to recruit the rest of us to believe as you do, then you need to be much more convincing.
 
Photizo said:
Your word against His..
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Enmos said:
'He' has no voice.
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Photizo said:
'We' are His Voice.
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Your own voice is simultaneously the voice of God?

(How humble that is.)

Photizo said:
"Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony."
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Right. Many of us aren't convinced that evangelists actually know everything that they claim to know.

That you do not accept the testimony is all the evidence you need.
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If we were to simply believe everything that we're told to believe, then that would make things very easy for evangelists.

But it would also be a recipe for the rankest sort of credulity.
 
Uttered with all the pompous tones you can muster, no doubt. You certainly are an offensive troll.
 
Back before the internet, bot would be wearing sandals, a dirty robe, and be standing on a downtown street corner with a sign saying 'repent, the end is near'. Now, with the internet, he doesn't have to put on the robe.
 
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