The Holy Spirit Explored (Scripture & Photos Examined)

[Dywyddyr]

I bring with me digital (scientific) proof to God's existence and you do nothing but whine about it. I wear of your childishness.

Arrant nonsense, and more evidence of your ignorance (I'm assuming here that it's not a deliberate lie).
You haven't given scientific proof, and you've given every indication - in virtually every post (if not sentence) - that you don't understand how science operates.

If your photos are "scientific proof" then this photo:

(which is me, taken two years ago), is "proof" that:
A) I'm a fighter pilot, and
B) that the EE (BAC) Lightning wasn't retired from service in 1988 as every available source will claim.
Likewise I have "proof" that I was also a Ukrainian air force (Su-27) pilot sometime during the 1990s and prior to that a Lightning pilot at the age of 8.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Arrant nonsense, and more evidence of your ignorance (I'm assuming here that it's not a deliberate lie).
You haven't given scientific proof, and you've given every indication - in virtually every post (if not sentence) - that you don't understand how science operates.

If your photos are "scientific proof" then this photo:

(which is me, taken two years ago), is "proof" that:
A) I'm a fighter pilot, and
B) that the EE (BAC) Lightning wasn't retired from service in 1988 as every available source will claim.
Likewise I have "proof" that I was also a Ukrainian air force (Su-27) pilot sometime during the 1990s and prior to that a Lightning pilot at the age of 8.

I simply see you boasting with a picture of yourself in the cock pit of an airplane.

 

[spidergoat]

I bring with me digital (scientific) proof to God's existence and you do nothing but whine about it. I wary of your childishness.

You have pictures containing some artifacts. So far you haven't shown how they are proof of God. In fact, you are open to explanations other than God. But somehow not open to explanations that are consistent with known reality.

 

[spidergoat]

"If you were blind," Jesus told them, "you wouldn't have sin. But now that you say, We see--your sin remains."

There is no such thing as sin.

 

[Dywyddyr]

I simply see you boasting with a picture of yourself in the cock pit of an airplane.

Right...
So, somehow, YOUR photo is "scientific proof" and MY photo is "boasting".
Can you explain what the actual difference is between the two photos as to why one should be accepted as "scientific proof" and the other shouldn't?

(And, apparently, you don't know what the word "boasting" means).

 

[Dr_Toad]

Easy! He's a troll.

 

[Dywyddyr]

Easy! He's a troll.

That's not entirely true.
He's a superstitious and ignorant troll.

 

[Aqueous Id]

Is this what you do?..come on to a religion forum to say religion is wrong?

The religion forum of a science site. Take the superstitious nonsense to a site that's selling superstition.

That people who believe in religious ideas are wrong?

The nonsense you are posting doesn't qualify as "religious ideas". It's trash.

Do you believe that you are right in doing so?

All the posters responding to you, except Photizo, are intelligent people. They joined the site to enjoy intelligent dialog with other intelligent people. Photizo joined to troll the science threads. They are responding to you because your posts say "Look at me! I'm an idiot!" Then when they point out that you're behaving badly, you attempt to flame them.

End of story. You have nothing else to add, so from this point on there is nothing left for you to do but troll.

Are you making the claim of righteousness and saying we are not?

Everyone here has told you that you are being a dunce. So deal with it.

Are you saying that we are wrong in having faith in and believing in God?

You are wrong for believing in stupidity and ignorance rather than the value of education.

Are you the all knowing, wise man of the world, here to say that we are all wrong? lol

It doesn't take more than the minimal amount of standard education to detect the stupidity and ignorance required to arrive at the conclusion that myth, legend and fable is the same as historical narrative.

If you have nothing intelligent to say, don't pretend to be shocked that intelligent people encourage you to go away. You can't be that stupid.

 

[spidergoat]

2 Corinthians 4:18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.

OK, that means that orbs, which are seen, are temporary, and thus not spirits, which are eternal.

 

[paddoboy]

I bring with me digital (scientific) proof to God's existence and you do nothing but whine about it. I wary of your childishness.

You bring bullshit, more bullshit and yet more bullshit.
As I say to all other misguided fools, if you had anything like "proof" you would not be spruiking it here.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

You have pictures containing some artifacts. So far you haven't shown how they are proof of God. In fact, you are open to explanations other than God. But somehow not open to explanations that are consistent with known reality.

Some pictures of orbs from digital cameras are artifacts, but the pictures that I have presented on this thread are of the Holy Spirit. Actually, I am not open to any other explanations other than the Holy Spirit. It was just good to see you staying on topic with another side of the argument.

Archeologist's take photographs of their findings. So do I have photographs of my findings. And you call yourselves scientifically-minded.

 

[Dr_Toad]

Actually, we called you a troll.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

That's not entirely true.
He's a superstitious and ignorant troll.

Is this how you support your case...with name calling? I have photographs of my findings. You are hardly a true scientist.

 

[Aqueous Id]

As I said, there is no room for you to do more than bicker and flame the good folks here.

Begone, troll.

 

[Sylvester]

I am not crazy, for I show you photos of what I have seen and speak the truth about them.

Are the orbs only in photographs or have you seen orbs with your own eyes?

 

[spidergoat]

Some pictures of orbs from digital cameras are artifacts, but the pictures that I have presented on this thread are of the Holy Spirit. Actually, I am not open to any other explanations other than the Holy Spirit. It was just good to see you staying on topic with another side of the argument.

Archeologist's take photographs of their findings. So do I have photographs of my findings. And you call yourselves scientifically-minded.

I understand your belief, but you haven't explained why you believe that. In fact, if you aren't open to alternative explanations, you aren't being rational. You will believe what you want despite lack of evidence or even evidence to the contrary. This is the definition of faith. There is basically no conversation to be had here.

You have no photos of the Holy Spirit, because, by your own quotes, the Holy Spirit is eternal, and thus unseen. Anything that one could take a photo of is seen, and thus temporary.

 

[Dywyddyr]

but the pictures that I have presented on this thread are of the Holy Spirit.

Unsupported claim.
How do you know that they aren't artefacts?

Actually, I am not open to any other explanations other than the Holy Spirit.

Exactly.
You're not presenting "scientific evidence", you're not being scientific, you're not being rational.
You're pushing an entirely unsupported belief.

Archeologist's take photographs of their findings. So do I have photographs of my findings. And you call yourselves scientifically-minded.

Since, as has been pointed out, your knowledge of science is (immensely) limited you're not in a position to state this with any reasonable expectation of being taken seriously.
Nor, as someone who who has stated that he's only prepared to accept one particular and predefined "conclusion" are you being anything but heavily biased from the start.
To accuse us of not being scientifically minded is highly, and blatantly, hypocritical of you.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Are the orbs only in photographs or have you seen orbs with your own eyes?

I have seen the orbs with my naked eyes. Here is a link to many others bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen them with their naked eyes as well:

http://faceless39.hubpages.com/hub/White-Ball-Of-Light

 

[spidergoat]

I have seen the orbs with my naked eyes. Here is a link to many others bearing witness and giving testimony to having seen them with their naked eyes as well:

http://faceless39.hubpages.com/hub/White-Ball-Of-Light

Why are you so interested in physical evidence, have you no faith?

What about all the physical evidence that contradicts all the other Bible stories? Like Noah? There is physical proof that a global flood never happened. If that is wrong, then we cannot look to the Bible as a reliable source for scientific truth.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Why are you so interested in physical evidence, have you no faith?

What about all the physical evidence that contradicts all the other Bible stories? Like Noah? There is physical proof that a global flood never happened. If that is wrong, then we cannot look to the Bible as a reliable source for scientific truth.

Of course I have faith, my work is in proving the faith. Noah's Ark has been found. The Egyptian chariots under the Red Sea has been discovered as well. The Holy Bible has been proven to be a reliable source of spiritual truth.