you'll never win a fight with a protestant on christianity
Teen Suspended For Wearing Rosary Beads To School
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you'll never win a fight with a protestant on christianity
I know, well, for starters, they aren't Christians.
oh their christians just not very good ones.
Faith
Why should she? I mean, she doesn't even need to know what the Bible says. She just needs to have faith that she knows better than God.
In Seattle, once upon a time, was a band called Chemistry Set. They were pretty cool, though their drummer went on to be one of the biggest corporate-radio DJ whores in town. Life and its little mysteries, you know? Anyway, they had this one lyric that sticks with me even today: "Bearing your soul is the in thing to do; it's fun, and it's easy for the empty-headed fool." It's just as true now as it was twenty years ago.
Phlogistician said:
Why should she? I mean, she doesn't even need to know what the Bible says. She just needs to have faith that she knows better than God.
In Seattle, once upon a time, was a band called Chemistry Set. They were pretty cool, though their drummer went on to be one of the biggest corporate-radio DJ whores in town. Life and its little mysteries, you know? Anyway, they had this one lyric that sticks with me even today: "Bearing your soul is the in thing to do; it's fun, and it's easy for the empty-headed fool." It's just as true now as it was twenty years ago.
sandy as the school stated.. gang related was the reason.. not religion so why post this? and teens never lie right?
so you admit it. they are using them as gang related.. therefor completely contradicting your OP.. and its not the beads sandy hate to say it.. more like the color of the beads
to me jesus souts like a selfish self righouse asshole to me if you dont kiss my dirty ass feet you go to hell.. atleast thast what i geat from this post
sandy i really hate to pop your bubble you you will have no idea if you are going to get into heaven or not until you die.. maby when you sinned pre born again and or after he wont forgive you so you could be going straight to hell you have no way of knowing
sure
You ask where do we draw the line and its clear where we already do (usually at the point of OH&S issues)
:shrug:
??? did i miss something?.. where did she say everyone is judged?
but..i would rather be judged by him than by man.
duh..no-one does..our trust is supposed to be in god not man..
thats the clinical version..too much like a script for me to take at face value, took me along time to sort through what it means..
hmm..too much here to touch..lets leave it at.. fast start..faster burnout..(she may be joining you later in life M.W.)
good for you..
maybe..
woman are like nature..the more beautiful.. the more deadly..
and if you even look close to that cindy crawford avatar you could be one of the deadliest..
are you a master?
No fast track; just what His Word says. I understand perfectly well.
I know EXACTLY where I am going when I die. I would bet the farm on it. Jesus died on the cross for ALL my sins. Once I was born again I was a new creation. Justified. Just if I'd never sinned. Word.
Not Cindy Crawford but I look a lot like my avatar. No, I am not a master. I am just one of His favorite kids. I make Him laugh.
i knew you would miss it..lol
Ah, see, I think it's like the difference between steak, and a burger. A burger is made from the same ingredient, but you can't call it steak.
You did miss something, the bit where I didn't say she said that. It's in the NT, Revelations, God will judge everyone after Armageddon. 'Sandy' said that when she dies she's going straight to heaven. That just isn't the way the process is described. Nobody is in heaven yet, everybody is waiting for judgement day, then their fate will be decided. If 'Sandy' professes to be a christian, and has actually read the bible, she should know this, so saying she'll go straight to heaven means she is either confused, or arrogant.
But come on, let's be sensible for a moment. Anybody who believes that anything depicted in Revelations will literally happen is a whacknut. Same goes for believing in an afterlife. Or God.
Questions of genuine faith
Nor did she list any cause and effect. Such literalism doesn't serve you well, to be honest. The underlying question is the role of a person's goodness in salvation. Sandy asserts it is a result of salvation. I disagree; I think in order to achieve salvation, one's faith must be genuine, thus—
—God will know when a person is trying to con him.
She's been around for three years, and has been consistent in her behavior.
And for some, that might actually bring them to faith.
Obviously not everyone. But in my time, this is one of the consistent notions I've encountered. Though I suppose it's not so straightforward as that. But when I see people laughing at the spectacle, or hear them speak derisively of the rhetoric, I'm pretty sure they're not calculating how to be like the people they disdain and ridicule.
We can only assess the character she presents us, and it's pretty low.
I wouldn't disagree. But in my lifetime of thirty-seven years, many Christians have demonstrated a propensity for trying to tell the rest of society what to do. Now, that would be fine as far as it goes, since everyone has a certain amount of political will, but this is ridiculous. I mean, if it was still just rock and roll lyrics, I would probably be able to laugh or just ignore the issue. But when it comes to encouraging murder, demanding sociopolitical supremacy, and campaigning against the civil rights of one's neighbors, these folks need to learn to examine their own human frailties. That, for instance, is why the last several years of right-wing evangelicals and politicians falling from grace in sex scandals matters. I don't care that Ted Haggard snorted meth with his male hooker. I don't care that Dr. George Rekers took a rentboy to Europe with him. I can even sympathize with their pathetic attempts to lie their way out of scandal. But they campaigned so hard against the very things they were doing. Ultimately, my sympathies are with all of the people they hurt for no good reason.
And, in the end, they were playing for God's favor.
I would disagree. Look at the evil committed and encouraged by people like Pastor Jeff Owens, Pastor Fred Phelps, Pastor Ted Haggard, Reverend George Rekers, and many others. Their attention was on God. They pandered for their salvation. Read through Sandy's record, and note how much she dwells in hatred and judgment. Like so many of her fellow Christians, it is not communion with God she seeks, but a usurpation of His authority. These people demonstrate by their behavior that they are not satisfied with faith, but, rather, crave the authority of judgment and condemnation.
To the one, humanity does tend to get in the way of our aspirations. To the other, though, Jesus as a role model is an idyll. It would behoove people to acknowledge the limits of their human condition before they embarrass themselves.
Looks more like a bloated Christie Brinkley.
Does God not know what is in a person's heart? Ah, right. The next point:
Suffice to say, I think salvation in such a context would be a mercy for someone of her apparent disposition, not a reward.
Probably. If there is an afterlife, she might find herself rubbing elbows with some of history's worst human monsters. And that could be in Heaven, too.
And what issue is that? Surely you're not referring to the failure of the school district to extend the privilege of exemption from the rules on the basis of religion.
And I would be remiss if I didn't—
—offer an appreciative chuckle.
NMSquirrel said:
Nor did she list any cause and effect. Such literalism doesn't serve you well, to be honest. The underlying question is the role of a person's goodness in salvation. Sandy asserts it is a result of salvation. I disagree; I think in order to achieve salvation, one's faith must be genuine, thus—
Demonstration is for mans benefit, not gods..
—God will know when a person is trying to con him.
She's been around for three years, and has been consistent in her behavior.
And for some, that might actually bring them to faith.
Obviously not everyone. But in my time, this is one of the consistent notions I've encountered. Though I suppose it's not so straightforward as that. But when I see people laughing at the spectacle, or hear them speak derisively of the rhetoric, I'm pretty sure they're not calculating how to be like the people they disdain and ridicule.
We can only assess the character she presents us, and it's pretty low.
I wouldn't disagree. But in my lifetime of thirty-seven years, many Christians have demonstrated a propensity for trying to tell the rest of society what to do. Now, that would be fine as far as it goes, since everyone has a certain amount of political will, but this is ridiculous. I mean, if it was still just rock and roll lyrics, I would probably be able to laugh or just ignore the issue. But when it comes to encouraging murder, demanding sociopolitical supremacy, and campaigning against the civil rights of one's neighbors, these folks need to learn to examine their own human frailties. That, for instance, is why the last several years of right-wing evangelicals and politicians falling from grace in sex scandals matters. I don't care that Ted Haggard snorted meth with his male hooker. I don't care that Dr. George Rekers took a rentboy to Europe with him. I can even sympathize with their pathetic attempts to lie their way out of scandal. But they campaigned so hard against the very things they were doing. Ultimately, my sympathies are with all of the people they hurt for no good reason.
And, in the end, they were playing for God's favor.
I would disagree. Look at the evil committed and encouraged by people like Pastor Jeff Owens, Pastor Fred Phelps, Pastor Ted Haggard, Reverend George Rekers, and many others. Their attention was on God. They pandered for their salvation. Read through Sandy's record, and note how much she dwells in hatred and judgment. Like so many of her fellow Christians, it is not communion with God she seeks, but a usurpation of His authority. These people demonstrate by their behavior that they are not satisfied with faith, but, rather, crave the authority of judgment and condemnation.
To the one, humanity does tend to get in the way of our aspirations. To the other, though, Jesus as a role model is an idyll. It would behoove people to acknowledge the limits of their human condition before they embarrass themselves.
Looks more like a bloated Christie Brinkley.
Does God not know what is in a person's heart? Ah, right. The next point:
Suffice to say, I think salvation in such a context would be a mercy for someone of her apparent disposition, not a reward.
Probably. If there is an afterlife, she might find herself rubbing elbows with some of history's worst human monsters. And that could be in Heaven, too.
And what issue is that? Surely you're not referring to the failure of the school district to extend the privilege of exemption from the rules on the basis of religion.
And I would be remiss if I didn't—
—offer an appreciative chuckle.
Oh please, tell me how, it is wrong.
It goes like this, tribulation, AKA Armageddon, all of that trippy shit with beasts, lambs, plagues, and the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. Then everyone gets resurrected to be judged by God, with Jesus at his right hand, and then some go to hell, and some to happy happy joy joy land.
Until then, nobody is in heaven, got it?
who says that he will accept born agains? and sandy NO you dont know unless your god then you dont know, maby there is an unwritten rule that says if your born again you go straight to hell, who knows i know for a fact you dont i know for a fact i dont if there is a god which i have seen more proof of aliens then he is the only one who would know