c20H25N3o: Jesus is coming soon!
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M*W: What is your definition of "soon?"
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M*W: What is your definition of "soon?"
St. Paul's God
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a day and a date would be much better then soon, soons like saying tomorrow it never comes.
you going to have to be more definite, with your statements.
by suppling source or reference material, and days and dates.
you going to have to be more definite, with your statements.
by suppling source or reference material, and days and dates.
c20H25N3o: Not even Jesus knows! Be ready though eh? Theres a good chap 
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M*W: And why wouldn't Jesus know if he is truly the son of God; otherwise, he's not. You're tremendously confused about your religion.
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M*W: And why wouldn't Jesus know if he is truly the son of God; otherwise, he's not. You're tremendously confused about your religion.
MW
Remember even though Jesus, being omniscient, had planned the second coming before the conception of the world, he was still ignorant of it.
...Or maybe we can cut out that crap and say that the Gospel writers inserted that piece about "no one knows" just to be on the safe side since they were writing at least 40 years after he would have supposedly said this.
Remember even though Jesus, being omniscient, had planned the second coming before the conception of the world, he was still ignorant of it.
...Or maybe we can cut out that crap and say that the Gospel writers inserted that piece about "no one knows" just to be on the safe side since they were writing at least 40 years after he would have supposedly said this.
Matthew 24:36 "Yet about that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, not even the Son; no one but the Father alone."
If the writers of the gospels were making changes to the sayings and ministry of Jesus it would be far more likely that they would have left this statement out not added it, as it shows that unlike the Father in heaven Jesus is not all knowing.
aguy2
If the writers of the gospels were making changes to the sayings and ministry of Jesus it would be far more likely that they would have left this statement out not added it, as it shows that unlike the Father in heaven Jesus is not all knowing.
aguy2
Jesus was functioning a human in God's world, not as God in a human world. He came to serve humanity on God's terms, not to rule it on our terms - in other words, attributes like omniscience, omnipotence and omnipresence aren't part of his human nature or his mission. Jesus eats, learns, sleeps and dies. God, using man's legs, wouldn't cross the earth in a single stride.
Unlike the Father in heaven, Jesus was not in heaven. Unlike the Father, Jesus was the Son. SouthStar, God did not need to plan being there, He was always there. It's we who are ignorant of God's coming - Jesus made it clear that it's knowledge that wasn't meant for us. If it was, He would have had it.
Unlike the Father in heaven, Jesus was not in heaven. Unlike the Father, Jesus was the Son. SouthStar, God did not need to plan being there, He was always there. It's we who are ignorant of God's coming - Jesus made it clear that it's knowledge that wasn't meant for us. If it was, He would have had it.
§outh§tar: Mr. Jenyar: Why exactly am I supposed to believe that seemingly out of character statement was made by Jesus? Have you seen my thread on the Second Coming btw?
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M*W: Those who have eyes and do not see are fools.
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M*W: Those who have eyes and do not see are fools.
battig1370
Registered Senior Member
---JESUS said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. --- Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them." ( Matthew 7:15-20 ) --- ( fruits --> the result of action )
When you read these two scriptures, what is the differance in character and personality between St. Paul's God and the Beast?
St. Paul's God:
Saul/St.Paul's revelation of his Lord Jesus Christ's power to destroy and kill.
---" And to you who are trouble rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire "taking vengeance" on them that know not God and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be "punished with everlasting destruction" from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and admired in all them that believed ( because our testimony among you was believed ) in that day. --- And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and "shall destroy" with brightness of his coming.-( 2 Thess 1:7-10, and 2:8 )
The Beast:
St.John's Revelation of the beast's power to destroy and kill.
---" And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly would was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, --- And he had power to give life unto The Image of the Beast, that The Image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship The Image of the Beast should be killed. (Rev.13:12-13 and 15)
In keeping to these scriptrues what is your answer to the question I have asked?
Peace be with you, Paul
When you read these two scriptures, what is the differance in character and personality between St. Paul's God and the Beast?
St. Paul's God:
Saul/St.Paul's revelation of his Lord Jesus Christ's power to destroy and kill.
---" And to you who are trouble rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire "taking vengeance" on them that know not God and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be "punished with everlasting destruction" from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and admired in all them that believed ( because our testimony among you was believed ) in that day. --- And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and "shall destroy" with brightness of his coming.-( 2 Thess 1:7-10, and 2:8 )
The Beast:
St.John's Revelation of the beast's power to destroy and kill.
---" And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly would was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, --- And he had power to give life unto The Image of the Beast, that The Image of the Beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship The Image of the Beast should be killed. (Rev.13:12-13 and 15)
In keeping to these scriptrues what is your answer to the question I have asked?
Peace be with you, Paul
Saying 'son of' isn't of any real importance given the overall belief of christianity. You see, christians claim that jesus is god, so then if he doesn't know when the second coming is, we can state that as: "god not knowing when the second coming is".
This god dude is certainly rather 'dim witted' given that he's supposedly omniscient.
SnakeLord: Saying 'son of' isn't of any real importance given the overall belief of christianity. You see, christians claim that jesus is god, so then if he doesn't know when the second coming is, we can state that as: "god not knowing when the second coming is".
This god dude is certainly rather 'dim witted' given that he's supposedly omniscient.
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M*W: It would seem that way. From what I've read in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, they all refer to him as 'Teacher' and Jesus refers to himself as 'Son of Man,' but Jesus only sees himself as a 'Teacher.'
This god dude is certainly rather 'dim witted' given that he's supposedly omniscient.
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M*W: It would seem that way. From what I've read in the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, they all refer to him as 'Teacher' and Jesus refers to himself as 'Son of Man,' but Jesus only sees himself as a 'Teacher.'
battig1370 said:
St Paul's God destroys the wicked and the Beast destroys those who will not worship The Image of the Beast. When one stands up and tells another to worship him he claims a great arrogance. We worship God because He is worthy. The Beast will just exalt himself. Jesus called us brothers, The Beast will be as a world power seeking to dominate man. Jesus will not need to ask anyone to kneel to Him when He is revealed. You just will.
The difference between the Beast and Jesus is that the Beast is arrogance and Jesus is humility. Humility wins. Heart of a child.
peace
c20
God destroys the wicked and innocent and the worshipers of other gods, god destroys those who will not worship The Image of the god, When one stands up and tells another to worship him he claims a great arrogance. We worship God because He is worthy and if we dont he will throw us into hell for eternity. god will just exalt himself. Jesus called us brothers, The jesus is power seeking to dominate man. Jesus will not need to ask anyone to kneel to Him when He is revealed. You just will else you will be killed
Jesus is arrogance and Jesus is evil. evil wins.
Jesus is arrogance and Jesus is evil. evil wins.
battig1370
Registered Senior Member
Saul/St.Paul said, "Abstain from all appearance of evil." ( Thess.5:22 ), which is the The cloaking of evil, which also means 'put on sheep's clothing to cover up ones true nature
As you noticed in Saul/St.Paul's revelation of his Lord Jesus Christ's power to destroy and kill, and in St.John's Revelation of the beast's power to destroy and kill, these two personalities are the same and of the same wicked Spirit, because they will do the same, they will take vengeance, causing everlasting destruction, kill and destroy with fire and cause massive suffering which will be worse than your worst nightmare
---JESUS said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. --- Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them." ( Matthew 7:15-20 ) --- ( fruits --> the result of action )
Those that worship Saul/St.Paul's Lord Jesus Christ "shall make war with The Lamb of the Second Coming, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is LORD of LORDS, and KING of KINGS, and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful." ( Rev. 17:14).
Peace be with you, Paul
As you noticed in Saul/St.Paul's revelation of his Lord Jesus Christ's power to destroy and kill, and in St.John's Revelation of the beast's power to destroy and kill, these two personalities are the same and of the same wicked Spirit, because they will do the same, they will take vengeance, causing everlasting destruction, kill and destroy with fire and cause massive suffering which will be worse than your worst nightmare
---JESUS said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. --- Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them." ( Matthew 7:15-20 ) --- ( fruits --> the result of action )
Those that worship Saul/St.Paul's Lord Jesus Christ "shall make war with The Lamb of the Second Coming, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is LORD of LORDS, and KING of KINGS, and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful." ( Rev. 17:14).
Peace be with you, Paul
the preacher said:
If evil had won then Jesus would never have been ressurected and their would be no hope for any soul alive. Thank God therefore that Jesus presented Himself as a spotless sin offering for you that you might have eternal life.
peace
c20
jesus was not ressurected, if it ever existed at all, this defys common senses, mind you, you would not know what that is.
I am not a sinner, this jesus of yours has done nothing for me, it does not exist to me.
if it had existed then it was supreme evil of the most horrible kind.
I am not a sinner, this jesus of yours has done nothing for me, it does not exist to me.
if it had existed then it was supreme evil of the most horrible kind.
the preacher said:
I agree at least that it defies common sense. Why on earth would the Creator of the heavens and the earth come in the flesh among us godless swine who love the world and store up treasures that rust and decay here, rejecting the very Father of all human beings? Why would He bother? We all think we know best despite the fact that we are the only animals so ashamed of our own flesh that we must cover it with clothes. We are living in shame. This is why God came. He pitied us in our fallen state, no longer angry with us for our rebellion against Him, He came to give us hope. "See!" said Jesus "I came not to judge the world but to save it."
But those who reject Him are under judgement already because they have prefered the darkness where they think their shame cannot be see. But those who have believed in the Son of God have done what God required of them, the belivers have come to the light, not afraid of God who is love. Does a bride stand ashamed naked before her husband? No. Of course not.
peace
c20