i just hope it's not necessary for me to preclude every sentence with "i think" in order to be understood. i mean, can't anything be a given. and you need to be aware that non-theists make a lot of assumptions about theists that in my case, are not the case. it gets so tiring and futile having to argue about semantic and assumptions. i would really rather share ideas about the topics.
Some logic for both sides...
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i just hope it's not necessary for me to preclude every sentence with "i think" in order to be understood. i mean, can't anything be a given. and you need to be aware that non-theists make a lot of assumptions about theists that in my case, are not the case. it gets so tiring and futile having to argue about semantic and assumptions. i would really rather share ideas about the topics.
why not? it has an identity. i do think it's weird or almost erroneous to refer to him as a "him", as it implies that he's human in a way. he's a being, he's a spirit, he's a force. and actually, he's a human too. he has a human body...
from what i know of him, he is DEFINITELY not the way most people think.
he's really cool.
...? Then why not refer to god as a him? but if god=existence then how can he be refered to as a gender specific being? is god a male?
I THINK god creates the natural process.
i don't think i can define either. i mean, i know what i'm familiar with through my experience, but that's probably not much compared to what they involve.
i don't know. is it necessary for him to have a gender? as far as i know that's only necessary for sex. i don't think god has sex. well, i think he did when he was a human, but...
"he" is often used as a gender neutral or ambiguous way, instead of using "it".
But we are said to be made in his image and likeness. So he must have one or two genders.
I know you don't mean it, but you are funny
well good, i like to make people laugh. but really, i'm serious about jesus. i do think that jesus had sex. that he was married to mary mag and they had a baby, and so he has a bloodline. i think that's the secret of the holy grail.
I think they wrote a fictional book that was made into a movie about that .....
well, we're all on the spectrum somewhere of masculinity vs femininity. i was on another thread and someone said something about him being a woman and a man. one in the beginning and another in the end. maybe they meant that he was both depending on the circumstance or what he happens to be doing.
I've worked it out. The father and son are masculine, so the holy spiriy must be feminine.
the davinci code, yeah. the storyline was fictional, but the information about the holy grail was researched. lots of people consider it a hobby to research, and there have been numerous books written about it. there were scriptures left out of the bible that refer to jesus kissing mary on the lips. maybe in the gnostic texts, i don't know. but honestly, how deft do you really have to be to not understand who mary mag was even according to the bible we're used to reading? it always stupifies me when people want to think of it otherwise.
well good for you! what are your assumptions? that to be a father or a son you have to be man, and to be that voice in someone's head you have to be a woman? i'd buy that, cause you know that women never shut the f*#k up.
You made me laugh out loud. Good one !
Enmos
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The point is, if God equals existence, 'he' doesn't have an identity.
Btw. I think they refer to God with 'him' in the bible though, and you just referred to God using the word 'he' six times in a row.. :shrug:
Enmos
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I really think it would be good to do that if you are expressing views that, according to your own beliefs, have a major impact on to ones you are saying it to. On top of that, what you are saying are assumptions too..
No, nothing is a given until at least proven plausible.
I am aware of that.
What are those assumptions ?
You forget that this is a science forum..
If you are going to share ideas then be prepared to at least come up with some sort of factual basis or evidence.
Enmos
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from what i know of him, he is DEFINITELY not the way most people think.
he's really cool.
1. What do you KNOW about him ?
2. You aren't Sandy by any change, are you ?