A little disingenuous, don't you think? Actually, I cited a Politifact article which analyzed Medved's claim and it found it to be factually correct. Police kill more whites than blacks, almost twice as many.
So they are burning and looting in Baltimore tonight
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LOL, you really have your blinders today or are on drugs or something BillyT. So Politifact is Medved? If you believe that, there is something wrong between your ears BillyT. And there is no Truth-o-Meter in the Poltifact article I referenced. The politifact article I referenced was written by Jon Greenberg and titled, "Talk show host: Police kill more whites than blacks".
And Greenberg provided references to support his analysis. In any case, your unnamed CNN source you heard is clearly wrong.
Found it was a false report but the media reported it as it actually happening.
No, they didn't. You did.cosmic said:
Police kill black men at far higher percentage rates than they kill white men - it's just that there are many fewer black men, so even killing two or three times the percentage of them doesn't bring the absolute total up to equal.
Police in America kill people - all kinds of people - way too often anyway. The numbers for black men are ridiculous.
Of course black people carry aspects of the general racial bigotry of their culture, which is American and heavily Confederate American. That culture is imbued with racial stereotypes disparaging of those with darker skin and (as black people used to call it, maybe still do) "bad hair". So?
This guy, Gray, who was killed by rough handling on the part of the police: as with so many black men his age, he had been lead poisoned as a child - a known factor in poor impulse control, low IQ and school troubles, and violence both inflicted and suffered. He was lead poisoned due to racism, essentially, and then treated badly by agents of authority throughout his brain-damaged life due to racism, essentially, including being persecuted by the police, and finally thrown into the back of a van and killed out of what was racism, essentially, and we all know that. Right?
Black cop, white cop - they don't treat harmless, addled white men like that. They don't draw and brandish their loaded gun when attempting to confront white teenagers for walking in the street. They don't put a half dozen bullets into the back of the white guy running away from a traffic stop.
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if you have trouble understanding the issues behind this and why people can be sympathetic to people rioting this should sum it up
http://www.upworthy.com/dont-unders...-see-how-police-treat-white-protesters?c=ufb1
http://www.upworthy.com/dont-unders...-see-how-police-treat-white-protesters?c=ufb1
LOL, that proves nothing. Small edited video clips doesn't prove your case...oops.
your right video evidence isn't proof. but your unsubstantioned lie that gray was resitting arrest is? actually go if you tamp down your obvious contempt for poor black people you'd see that it proves everything. these are the baltimore police department treating blacks and whites differently during the same protests. your really need to learn to just shut up when it comes to defending cops killing unarmed black people. your seriously proving my point that racism nowadays is subconscience. you reflexively attack anything that proves your evil black kid stereotype wrong. just do your self a favor and shut up. your only making your self worse and worse. your complete inability to rationally and impartionally look at evidence is clear as day. thats not something you want to wave around in the light.
again so video proof of racial based differential treatment isn't proof? we both know if your could lie about the video and make it seem it was black peoples fault you'd defend the video. just because it proves your wrong doesn't mean its false. I always thought you smarter than that. now i see your no different than micheal what makes information good or bad is solely based on if you agree with the message.
LOL, oh, so where did I say Mr. Gray was resisting arrest? It's probably with your claim I shit and masturbate on the bodies of dead black boys. Your assertions only exist in your mind PJ. They don't exist in the real world. You are using straw man and ad hominem arguments among a plethora of other fallacious arguments. Just because you believe your delusions, it doesn't mean they are real. In your world, just getting up in the morning proves your many delusions.
The truth isn't an attack PJ. The truth isn't racism PJ. The truth isn't irrational. I am going to challenge you yet again. Though I doubt you will be able to meet the challenge. You will likely ignore it as you have with my several previous challenges to you. Show me, my words, which explain my stated position on how this incident.
You're not making sense.
Police are claiming Freddy's knife was a "spring assisted" knife and thus illegal, even if not a "switch blade" knife. Here is the difference including a final comment that spring assisted knifes ARE legal in ALL 50 STATES. In fact that is why the spring assisted knife was made / is sold.
Even if Freddy had had an illegal switch blade knife it was in his pocket, un-seen. So there was no legal basis for the body search of Freddy - no "probable cause"
Cops can not just search people at random or "racial profile" them as a probably cause for search.
Nor can cops make up laws that do not exist to justify their illegal actions. Freddy's arrest was ILLEGAL police action by three cops.
Cops intentional did procedures, in violation of police rules, so that innocent, falsely arrested, healthy, but black, Freddy quickly died. = 2nd degree murder, at least!
See post 129 and China Daily photo* there to understand, at least slightly, how China is using this and others like it to win friends and gain power in Africa. E. g.
"We Chinese are people of color too. We have never been your colonizing exploiters. See what US cops do to American blacks. We come to build not bomb."
* Not a white face in the large, dense, angry, back crowd, yet whites were numerous in the demonstrations - could it be that the Chinese know about Photo Shop too?
Even if Freddy had had an illegal switch blade knife it was in his pocket, un-seen. So there was no legal basis for the body search of Freddy - no "probable cause"
Cops can not just search people at random or "racial profile" them as a probably cause for search.
Nor can cops make up laws that do not exist to justify their illegal actions. Freddy's arrest was ILLEGAL police action by three cops.
Cops intentional did procedures, in violation of police rules, so that innocent, falsely arrested, healthy, but black, Freddy quickly died. = 2nd degree murder, at least!
See post 129 and China Daily photo* there to understand, at least slightly, how China is using this and others like it to win friends and gain power in Africa. E. g.
"We Chinese are people of color too. We have never been your colonizing exploiters. See what US cops do to American blacks. We come to build not bomb."
http://www.wildbillwholesale.com/whisdibeswan.html said:
It is the police (especially the Baltimore Fraternal Order of Police quickly announcing that police did NOTHING wrong - see post 105) who are "rushing to judgment" without taking time to learn the law, not Marlin Mosby. She knows the law. Her prompt, well founded, action saved Baltimore more damages a quite possibly lives. Thank God, she does not fit indistinguishably into the solid blue line of silence and mutual protection as many prosecutors do.
* Not a white face in the large, dense, angry, back crowd, yet whites were numerous in the demonstrations - could it be that the Chinese know about Photo Shop too?
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This might very well be true. There are about three times as many Americans of European ancestry than of African ancestry, so even if twice as many white people are killed as blacks, that would still mean that a black American is 50% more likely to be killed by a cop than a white American. If you add to that total all the tens of millions of Americans of other ethnic groups, such as Latinos (our third largest demographic group, who are also often bullied by police), it would increase the ratio even further.
did you even read all of those or did you only read parts of them?
This is why we have a criminal justice system. The prosecutor has made these allegations, now she will need to prove them in a court of law.
PS: Spring loaded knives (i.e. switchblades) are not legal in all 50 states. And the standard for detention is "reasonable suspicion". I don't know of the cops had reasonable suspicion in Mr. Grey's case. But I am sure it will get worked out, and if it goes to trial, a jury will decide if the cops had reasonable suspicion or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#State_laws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes
I read them all.
Yes switchblades knives are illegal in all 50 states. You link is ONLY about them - I.e. knife which has blade constantly under pressure to fly into the open position, but is restrained from doing so by a lock mechanism. I.e. its zero force or equilibrium position is fully open.
Spring assisted knife's blade is not under any pressure to open - Ergo is not a switch blade knife and is legal in all 50 states. Its zero force or equilibrium position is fully CLOSED. After the users applies some opening force then and ONLY then does the spring assist the opening.
Sure they did from their point of view and prior experiences: Freddy was a black male, was he not? That is what is wrong thinking of many cops in US.
AND very damaging to the US as I discussed in post 129 - a gift to China's efforts to dominate Africa.
In post 129 I showed China Daily's photo* below and noted you should see it to understand, at least slightly, how China is using this and others like it to win friends and gain power in Africa. E. g.http://news.yahoo.com/china-says-u-look-rights-problems-closer-home-090550884.html said:
"We Chinese are people of color too. We have never been your colonizing exploiters. See what US cops do to American blacks. We come to build not bomb."
This photo of anger in Baltimore is from today's China daily. It will be shown in Africa etc. by China - you can bet on that.
And in post 169 footnote noted:
* Not a white face in the large, dense, angry, back crowd, yet whites were numerous in the demonstrations - could it be that the Chinese know about Photo Shop too?
Bad, racially biased police, are doing more long-term damage to the US than ISS ever could do.
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LOL well the Baltimore police disagree with your beliefs about the legality knives. And of course all police are racist pigs in your world. The 60's came to an end a half century ago Billy.
Unfortunately for you Billy, facts and evidence does matter in the real world.
Not my beliefs. Unlike you I give links to experts stating this: "SPRING ASSISTED KNIVES ARE LEGAL IN ALL 50 STATES." My link is a large distributor and seller of spring assisted knives. If he were selling switchblades to the public, he would be in big trouble as just shipping them across state lines to non authorized buyer is a federal crime.
You could prove that your OPINION is fact by citing only one state law making SPRING ASSISTED knives illegal, but until you do, we all know it just your opinion pulled from a dark and smelly place of your body, as many parts of your posts are.
BillyT you have not so charming knack for ignoring evidence in favor of your beliefs. Per my previous reference, switchblade knives are neither universally legal as you had claimed, nor are they universally illegal as you subsequently claimed ("Yes switchblades knives are illegal in all 50 states." BillyT Post 177 & "SPRING ASSISTED KNIVES ARE LEGAL IN ALL 50 STATES", BillyT post 179). Each state has its own rules regarding switchblade knives, and some cities like Baltimore have their own laws with respect to knives. So your original claim that switchblade knives were not illegal in any state was just clearly wrong, just like your claim that 21 or 26 blacks were killed by police for every white person killed by a police officer which you supported with an unnamed source you think you heard on CNN.
Also, per my previous post, the Baltimore police union doesn't share your belief with respect to the legality of the knife they found on Mr. Gray.
"Lawyers for two officers have challenged a key finding of State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's case: that a knife found on Freddie Gray was legal in Maryland and therefore the officers didn't have a right to arrest Gray. The police investigation found that the knife is illegal under Baltimore city code." CNN http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/06/p...re-knife-marilyn-mosby-prosecution/index.html
"What type of knife did Gray have?
Court documents say it was a "spring-assisted, one-hand-operated knife." Mosby has said the knife was not a switchblade.
Switchblades are illegal in Maryland, but the law is even stricter in Baltimore.
"Baltimore City has a law that says it's not only illegal to have a switchblade, but it's also illegal to have a spring-action knife," said Andrew Alperstein, a defense attorney.
Again, Mosby has said the knife was legal. So has an attorney for the Gray family, calling the allegation a "sideshow." Gray was carrying a "pocket knife of legal size," according to attorney William Murphy.
But the police investigation found that the knife was illegal under Baltimore city code.
CNN has not been able to independently examine the knife in question." - CNN
http://www.kctv5.com/story/22972575...witchblades-daggers-and-other-types-of-knives
PS: Where is this link you claim you posted?
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