Should prostitution be legalised? yes or no!!

I think anyone who thinks prostitution should remain a crime is a bit of an ass and a hypocrite. Sex is not illegal, money is not illegal but sex for money is illegal? Unless its in front of a camera? Cause then its okay and just porn and its legal. OMG people.

/me sings the Violent Femmes song, "America is the home of the hypocrite"

They're not really that hypocritical...most of the people who think that prostitution should remain illegal are Christians who would happily agree that porn should be illegal. Heck, many of them would probably say that sex outside of marriage should be illegal.
 
They're not really that hypocritical...most of the people who think that prostitution should remain illegal are Christians who would happily agree that porn should be illegal. Heck, many of them would probably say that sex outside of marriage should be illegal.

I know, I actually love most of the Americans I have met and get along. Im just hoping the more secular and wiser of America will get a stronger voice and bring more reason into the equation.
 
They're not really that hypocritical...most of the people who think that prostitution should remain illegal are Christians who would happily agree that porn should be illegal. Heck, many of them would probably say that sex outside of marriage should be illegal.

Odd that, you'd have thought their faith, fear, and love for their almighty creator would have more sway than the local Police Department!
 
Odd that, you'd have thought their faith, fear, and love for their almighty creator would have more sway than the local Police Department!

It's not for themselves - it's for all the other people who don't share their religious beliefs. They want to force everyone else to live according to their religious codes.
 
It's not for themselves - it's for all the other people who don't share their religious beliefs. They want to force everyone else to live according to their religious codes.

You know, that's the part that pisses me off. If they want to live their lives a certain way, fine. But when they try and make me live by their rules, it's time to fight back.
 
Is working in a brothel an acceptable career choice for women?

In the town with the brothel, would most of the the village women be working there?

I say no to legalisation.

I also think more likely than not that that the owner of the hooker house were male he would not want his own daughter working there...based on that alone i would not legalise it.

Since there are many women who work in brothels, clearly the answer is "yes," at least for some people. I don't see how you can even argue this...the fact that women clearly do work in brothels pretty much shuts your argument down before it starts.

What the hell does this have to do with anything? Most people probably wouldn't want their children to be janitors, even if they themselves are janitors or someone who hires janitors. Would you suppose that we should outlaw janitors? :bugeye:

um, lets see do i want my kid to be a janitor or a hooker:shrug:
 
um, lets see do i want my kid to be a janitor or a hooker:shrug:
I have yet to hear you explain how your preference of careers for your children relates in any way to why we should regulate the actions of two consenting adults. Maybe you wouldn’t want your kids doing it, but once your kids become adults you personal preferences should have exactly zero effect on their right to freely decide for themselves what to do with their bodies.
 
You know, that's the part that pisses me off. If they want to live their lives a certain way, fine. But when they try and make me live by their rules, it's time to fight back.

I know it's a difficult concept, but it's called "society" and it's made up of humans who feel some responsibility towards their fellow man, the other members of that society. Think about it, you'll get it.

Baron Max
 
I have yet to hear you explain how your preference of careers for your children relates in any way to why we should regulate the actions of two consenting adults.

That's precisely what "society" does ...regulates what people can and can't do ...even if they want to or consent to it.

Can you even imagine what the world would be like if everyone could do whatever they wanted to do ...even consenting adults?

Baron Max
 
Baron Max:

I would agree with that, ...but ONLY for the sex workers who work in the brothels! Others were still at risk.

Yes. So...?

An improvement is an improvement.

Only a few? Care to elaborate on that?

There will always be street prostitution. You can't hope to eliminate it completely.

Yeah, that's just what we need ...the government controlling our sex lives!

That doesn't happen, unless your sex life impinges upon the freedoms or rights of other people. In fact, legalised brothels mean MORE freedom, not less.

You have great faith in the government, James. Is that always your view of the government, or are you being selective so as to help whichever argument you happen to be dishing out?

This is amusing, coming from the person who always says the law is the law is the law, and it is immutable and unchangeable. Your naive faith in your government's law making is in sharp conflict with your statements above that governments are made up of fallible people.

Remind me who is arguing selectively, again...
 
I know it's a difficult concept, but it's called "society" and it's made up of humans who feel some responsibility towards their fellow man, the other members of that society. Think about it, you'll get it.

Baron Max

No Max, what you describe is totalitarianism, where a slim majority decide what is right for everybody.
 
There will always be street prostitution. You can't hope to eliminate it completely.
That doesn't happen, unless your sex life impinges upon the freedoms or rights of other people.

How odd that you, of all people, want to control other people, the sex lives between consenting adults, and somehow not call it infringing on the rights and freedoms of others? Prostitutes, street walkers, are adults, the customers are adults, both consent to having sex, yet you think that's bad, so you want to control their actions?

In fact, legalised brothels mean MORE freedom, not less.

How in hell do you see it that way? If the two consenting adults want to have sex, why are you trying to force them to do it where YOU choose? And you call that more freedom, not less?

Can we control the sex lives of gays in the same or similar way?

Baron Max
 
no, a small town is made up of people who decide how they act. ive lived in one for 14 years, and i cant say ive ever been told how to live by the town.
 
no, a small town is made up of people who decide how they act. ive lived in one for 14 years, and i cant say ive ever been told how to live by the town.

Childhood training and learning by association. You learned how to act and what to do without ever being told specifically.

Baron Max
 
That's precisely what "society" does ...regulates what people can and can't do ...even if they want to or consent to it.
A society is a group of people who live and work together to accomplish things that they couldn't on their own, including helping to enfore each others rights to live free (eg, by joinging together to fight if someone wants to conquer or enslave them). There's nothing in the definition of "society" that implies that people should restict what consenting adults choose to do, so long as their actions don't harm anyone but themselves.

Can you even imagine what the world would be like if everyone could do whatever they wanted to do ...even consenting adults?
I'm trying to imagine a world where people are free to do anything they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else... and I'm not seeing a problem with it. By definition, if someone's actions are only harmful to themselves then they aren't your problem.
So a small town can't decide how it wants to live and how it's people can act?
Each person in a town is free to decide how they personally want to live. That doesn't mean that one person (or group of people) should be able to restrict the freedom of anyone else. If you want to take away someone else's freedom, you need to show how their actions are harming you. And I mean actual harm, not "it harms me because I find it offensive."

If you find it intolerable to live in a society where people wear blue hats, you are perfectly free to get together with like-minded people and go start your own town where no one wears a blue hat. But as soon as the first person changes his mind, or the first child in your town grows up and decides that he wants to wear a blue hat after all, you're out of luck - their right to be free trumps your right to avoid any imaginary harm that you might suffer from being offended at the person's blue hat.
 
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I'm trying to imagine a world where people are free to do anything they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else... and I'm not seeing a problem with it. By definition, if someone's actions are only harmful to themselves then they aren't your problem.

So a society should allow men to stand around the playgrounds, takin' pictures and jackin' off for the cute little girls and boys playing? He ain't harmin' no one. And sellin' the pictures to other pedos on the Internet? That ain't harmin' no one.

And a man and woman fuckin' on the sidewalk in full view of all the pedestrians? That ain't harmin' no one, is it?

Baron Max
 
So a society should allow men to stand around the playgrounds, takin' pictures and jackin' off for the cute little girls and boys playing? He ain't harmin' no one. And sellin' the pictures to other pedos on the Internet? That ain't harmin' no one.
Pedophiles harm children, so there's a valid argument for outlawing anything that encourages pedophilic behavior, even if the specific thing being banned doesn't harm anyone in and of itself. It's similar to the way we ban drunk driving. Car accidents harm people, and drunk driving greatly increases the risk of car accidents - even though driving drunk doesn't harm anyone in and of itself.
And a man and woman fuckin' on the sidewalk in full view of all the pedestrians? That ain't harmin' no one, is it?
Okay, since you seem to think that this would be harmful, please explain specifically how it harms anyone. Unlike pedophilia, sex between consenting adults is not harmful (in fact, it's necessary for the survival of the species) so even if such a public display encourages others to have sex, that's not really a problem.
 
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Pedophiles harm children, ...

All pedophiles harm children? What about the ones who just like to look at naked little girls, or pictures of naked little girls, and jack off?

It's similar to the way we ban drunk driving. Car accidents harm people, and drunk driving greatly increases the risk of car accidents - even though driving drunk doesn't harm anyone in and of itself.

So it's okay to ban something, some acts, which ...MIGHT... cause a problem and harm someone?

Okay, since you seem to think that this would be harmful, please explain specifically how it harms anyone. Unlike pedophilia, sex between consenting adults is not harmful (in fact, it's necessary for the survival of the species) so even if such a public display encourages others to have sex, that's not really a problem.

How is that any more or less harmful than a man jacking off while watching the little girls play in the park or at the beach?

Baron Max
 
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