Religious Intolerance
- Thread starter Thoreau
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That is so profoundly arrogant. You can't even define yourself and the physical world around you entirely. That is proven by science.
Carcano
Valued Senior Member
You would like this children's story Lori.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzwjD9nF-rM&feature=channel_page
Words are a mighty weapon. Moreso than we're taught in our institutions. SCREW RELIGION! Some people treat this as a mental exercise, following rules. You don't need anybody else for this because from what I know, its all about introspection. Its like sombody following you around 24/7 sticking a mirror in your face. And I'm not just talking about physical appearance but the deep down stuff you probably don't want to look at (or maybe you do).
Shaggy staggering strawman.
You said it can't be defined. Now you speak of something not being defined ENTIRELY.
You seem to arrogantly think you can define me.
That was wonderful, thank you!
Would you people stop with the straw speak? Dear god. From now on for every straw person stuffed I'm going to say something irritating like "jesus loves you" or a "hail mary".
What I'm saying is that I can't define you so why shut that door?
I'm preachin' now baby. Everybody feel the holy spirit in this house tonight?!
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Would you stop propping up strawmen?
Would you stop propping up strawmen?
Jesus loves that strawman!
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So your answer is no.
So your answer is no.
OK, so what this is all about, is that you don't understand the meaning to two words;
Atheism
and
Freedom.
Nah, that was the Devil. You haven't met God yet. God told me this himself.
What knowledge and rationality? Didn't you fight in Bush's war in Iraq? Where is the evidence that you can distinguish fact from fiction?
Thoreau
Valued Senior Member
So many questions and only one answer. It is my personal opinion that most of the people in this discussion aren't seeing the bigger picture of the message in my original post. I'm not asking anyone to respect someone else's belief, I'm saying to respect the person REGARDLESS of belief.
The claimed religion, or lack of, as it pertains to any man or men is purely their choice of belief. Idea's or beliefs are not threatening in any aspect, ACTING on some of them can be! That is why religion is in fact a neutral concept. It becomes positive or negative when people act on behalf of religious belief. If Naseen Kumar Mohammed from Jordan believes in the Qur'an and decides to go out and blow himself up, taking other human life, after being influenced by his clergymen then that is a negative action purely put into action by man with influence from men. However, if he chooses not to do so and instead goes on with the rest of his life giving and being compassionate and generous, then that his is choice as well. Having free will as most all forms of life do, we have the power to choose and manipulate different perspectives and ideas, even if not intentional. The basic foundation of religion (scriptures) is a neutral concept! They are merely words written in books.
Yes, various scriptures teach both positive and negative behavior. But it is PURELY up to the believer which path he chooses within that belief structure; a postive, neutral or negative stance which will then define the result of his actions.
If I were to play Grand Theft Auto for years and then decide to follow the main concept in the game which is violence and go out and shoot people and run them over with cars, is the game to blame or the player?
If I were to listen to a heavy metal band and then show up at some school and start shooting people because it suggests to do so in the song, is that the fault of the music or the listener?
The claimed religion, or lack of, as it pertains to any man or men is purely their choice of belief. Idea's or beliefs are not threatening in any aspect, ACTING on some of them can be! That is why religion is in fact a neutral concept. It becomes positive or negative when people act on behalf of religious belief. If Naseen Kumar Mohammed from Jordan believes in the Qur'an and decides to go out and blow himself up, taking other human life, after being influenced by his clergymen then that is a negative action purely put into action by man with influence from men. However, if he chooses not to do so and instead goes on with the rest of his life giving and being compassionate and generous, then that his is choice as well. Having free will as most all forms of life do, we have the power to choose and manipulate different perspectives and ideas, even if not intentional. The basic foundation of religion (scriptures) is a neutral concept! They are merely words written in books.
Yes, various scriptures teach both positive and negative behavior. But it is PURELY up to the believer which path he chooses within that belief structure; a postive, neutral or negative stance which will then define the result of his actions.
If I were to play Grand Theft Auto for years and then decide to follow the main concept in the game which is violence and go out and shoot people and run them over with cars, is the game to blame or the player?
If I were to listen to a heavy metal band and then show up at some school and start shooting people because it suggests to do so in the song, is that the fault of the music or the listener?
Sorry, no, can't respect people that denigrate people for their gender or sexuality. Religion does that too much.
well god doesn't.
Doesn't what? You are being vague again.
Are you saying god doesn't respect people for denigrating others, or he doesn't denigrate others?
I find a desire for tolerance must also be balanced by the realization that truth matters and people pretending their fantasy gods must be "respected" are dragging down the whole of humanity.