Radical Islam : What is the fundamental motivation?

Photizo said:
"You are not far from the Kingdom of God"...We were created in the Image of God but fell through sin. We now bear the image of our first parents passed down through all generations. Christ the God-Man came to earth to restore that Image in all mankind. IF you receive Him as Lord, you are forgiven all sin and considered to possess His same Image. Over the course of your remaining life on earth God begins a process of conforming you to the very likeness of Jesus Himself. This invitation is open to all mankind.
Click to expand...
Sounds like your God wants to create human robots?
 
Photizo said:
"You are not far from the Kingdom of God"...We were created in the Image of God but fell through sin. We now bear the image of our first parents passed down through all generations. Christ the God-Man came to earth to restore that Image in all mankind. IF you receive Him as Lord, you are forgiven all sin and considered to possess His same Image. Over the course of your remaining life on earth God begins a process of conforming you to the very likeness of Jesus Himself. This invitation is open to all mankind.
Click to expand...

No, troglodyte. We created God in our own image. God is not a being with a plan for what the heck is goin' on, and certainly not possessing an intelligence and a behavior similar to our own. Nobody is watching over us. We are alone. It's a very arrogant thing to demand, that the creational force in the Cosmos has to be like ourselves. That would be among the cardinal sins, if any. Which is why we're not gonna get to Alpha Centauri. And bathe in the pools on Centauri VIb under the emerald sky.
 
davewhite04 said:
Sounds like your God wants to create human robots?
Click to expand...
"For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Sound like He's your God too.
 
CEngelbrecht said:
No, troglodyte. We created God in our own image. God is not a being with a plan for what the heck is goin' on, and certainly not possessing an intelligence and a behavior similar to our own. Nobody is watching over us. We are alone. It's a very arrogant thing to demand, that the creational force in the Cosmos has to be like ourselves. That would be among the cardinal sins, if any. Which is why we're not gonna get to Alpha Centauri. And bathe in the pools on Centauri VIb under the emerald sky.
Click to expand...

"...whatever city you enter and they do not receive you, go out into its streets and say, Even the dust of your city which clings to our feet we wipe off in protest against you; yet be sure of this, that the kingdom of God has come near."
 
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.
- Seneca the Younger
Click to expand...

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
- Galileo Galilei
Click to expand...

My earlier views on the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them.
- Abraham Lincoln
Click to expand...

In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point.
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Click to expand...

I'm afraid I don't believe there is such a thing as blasphemy, just outrage from those insecure in their own faith.
- Stephen Fry.
Click to expand...

You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
- House
Click to expand...

 
IF you receive Him as Lord, you are forgiven all sin and considered to possess His same Image. Over the course of your remaining life on earth God begins a process of conforming you to the very likeness of Jesus Himself. This invitation is open to all mankind.
Click to expand...

I don't agree with the above.

Photizo said:
"For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Sound like He's your God too.
Click to expand...

He is.
 
"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."
 
Photizo said:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/01/27/obama-keeps-bowing-in-the-middle-east/
Click to expand...
I agree with most of that. However, Saudi Arabia is an ally of the US. Our cooperation is one of the few stable relationships in the Middle East besides Israel. While I certainly have the same criticisms of Saudi society as the author, be careful what you wish for. A Saudi Arabia in control of the most radical of Muslims would be a nightmare, and a jihadist's dream. They could very easily turn on the regime. For now, the Saudis are helping us in the fight against ISIS, who are arguably the worst of all groups to be in control of anything. It's a fine line Obama is riding here, I suspect there is more to it than we can be aware of.
 
Much more--including his involvement; the puzzle will be pieced together over time as events unfold...I suspect "the jihadist's dream" as you call it, will in fact come to pass in the years ahead. It's not clear who--humanly speaking--will be running the show (a radical Turkey? Saudi Arabia? Iran? another completely unexpected center of influence?) but their eventually domination will felt across large portions of territory/civilization which currently think themselves as inoculated/never succumbing to its poison.
 
The good thing about an ideology with a territory is that it can be attacked the old fashioned way.
 
I think that's how they (the jihadists) view things vis a vis Israel but 'the West'?... not so much. Much more stealthy ... slow infiltration.
 
What makes you think that Muslims, out of all the other indifferentally random tribes and identities in the world, have a conscious plan for what the hell they're doing, any more than anyone else on the planet? Don't you think, that they are running around just as hysterical and panicky as the rest of this overpopulated ape world?
 
Photizo said:
"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."
Click to expand...


Your answer using scripture to me

Luke 11:9

is unrelated to the statement you originally said.Your original post: "For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."

Just remember we believe in the same God, so I am not getting on your back here.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top