Radical Islam : What is the fundamental motivation?

davewhite04 said:
what do you mean about what God says about His son? not much.

EDIT: 2 separate answers friend.
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I mean read the bible and learn what YHWH says about Himself and Jesus. Read the Qur'an and learn what 'allah' says about himself and Jesus. Both have enough material for you to understand that YHWH is not 'allah'.
 
Photizo said:
I mean read the bible and learn what YHWH says about Himself and Jesus. Read the Qur'an and learn what 'allah' says about himself and Jesus. Both have enough material for you to understand that YHWH is not 'allah'.
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I've read the bible mate, and I call Him God. As someone pointed out, the Jews weren't foolish enough to give Him a name.
 
davewhite04 said:
I've read the bible mate, and I call Him God. As someone pointed out, the Jews weren't foolish enough to give Him a name.
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Whatever you say, "mate". btw...He revealed His Names to the Jews. The comment concerning the Jews giving Him a Name is moot.
 
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CEngelbrecht said:
Okay, that troll must be full by now, right?
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they say talking to yourself is good for you, you must have a brilliant mind.
CEngelbrecht said:
"Allah" is just the Arab word for God, like "dieu" is it for French. Etymologically, it's related to "hallelujah".
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Quite interesting actually, this could be down to the tower of babylon so no one is worshipping the wrong God. That's good news, and my first response to this thread still stands.

EDIT: tower of babel
 
davewhite04 said:
Quite interesting actually, this could be down to the tower of babel so no one is worshipping the wrong God. That's good news,
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If people want to find similarities between the tribes, they are always there. But unfortunately, most times people need to find differences. There are four billion jews in the world, but most people need to call each other something else at random. If Christian and Muslims weren't at each other's faces (again!), then it'd be between the Sunni and Shia, or the Protestants and Catholics (Northern Ireland, anyone?), or if no other excuse is available, Man United fans versus Liverpool fans. The excuses don't have to make sense in this grossly over populated world, where we're running around like too many hamsters in too small a cage.

If you think racism goes away once we're all one big happy color with all the infidels weeded out, well I got news for you, you're missing it big time. Don't you see? First you kill off all the other races, then you start killing off all the other religions. Then, you start killing off the left-handed people, then you start killing off each other over the lengths of your crew-cuts. Then finally, finally, there's only one guy left; and no doubt that crazy motherfucker will attack the mirror.
- Dennis Miller.
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Unfortunately the Middle East forgets its Ancient past before the bible

They are , in the Middle East , a brilliant people , at least they were

Perhaps any of these radicals could find someone in the same spirit , hopefully
 
"You're right up there with allah who says God does not have a Son. Think about it...you are lying to yourself, to God, and to me/other readers in denying the truth of what God says, in effect a liar calling Him a liar. Your lying affirms the truth of my comments above. Which was, essentially, you're all in the same boat and cut from the same cloth: Satan... described by Jesus as a liar and the father of lies. You believe lies and speak lies because that is your nature...the nature you have inherited. Believing a lie is hazardous to your health and ultimately a token of God's judgment."

origin said:
Oh no, he implied I'm a Muslim!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy

I'm implying nothing. I'm being specific.
 
It's getting to be a broken record, dude.

To reiterate from earlier in the thread, Jews and Christians are perfectly allowed to kill queers, if they so choose:

If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
- Book of Leviticus, 20:13
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Most people these days just choose not to, 'cause ... what ever. Because that's the sociological trend in the West these days. Because that's to most people's sociological benefit.

We can talk about negative sociological trends in the current Middle East, but they got nothing to do with Islam. No more than witch burnings had to do with Christianity. 'Cause Islam has nothing to do with what Muslims do, 'cause Christianity has nothing to do with what Christians do. Islam is just the random excuse people use when they can't justify it elsehow. Other tribes would use Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, idiocy ... sorry, I mean Scientology, or conservatism or socialism, and they have. But it doesn't matter what comma sentences one can find in ye ol' texts, the excuses don't even have to make sense. Hitler used Darwin and Nietzsche, and that sure as hell didn't make sense. Stop trying to find your own bollocks excuse for why "Muslims" (or what ever random fraction) are not your equal in the competition for the good life, 'cause that won't solve the problem, either. You wan't to understand what the problem is, go find a mirror, ape.
 
I was kinda interested in a rational debate about one of the two main candidates for WWIII in our time.

Yeah, I know. "On the Internet??? What are ya, born yesterday?"
 
CEngelbrecht said:
I was kinda interested in a rational debate about one of the two main candidates for WWIII in our time.

Yeah, I know. "On the Internet??? What are ya, born yesterday?"
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Russia will take out the US then lead an islamic coalition headed up by Iran against Israel. Israel will be defeated, then embrace the islamic antichrist who will establish a treaty between israel and the palestinians. Shortly thereafter he will proclaim himself to be God. This will set the stage for Armageddon and the return of Jesus Christ. As He returns, Christ will destroy the armies arrayed against Him, the Jews will receive Him as their Messiah and usher in a 1000 yr. Messianic Reign of Christ from Jerusalem.
Be there or be square.
 
There's a lot of flaws in that perceived scenario. One, Russia under Putin will probably never ally with Muslim fractions in the Middle East, not after having killed scores of Chechen Muslims over the last decade or so. And two, Jesus the Altruist died two millenia ago and has no influence on anything people do these days. Just like Muhammed the Instigator doesn't.

It's gonna be difficult to have a rational debate about this tremendously complex problem, if you're not capable of dealing with physical reality. Then you are exactly like the ones, you're afraid of. Can see the splinter in the eye of your brother, but not the bone in your hand. But then again, that's at the very heart of the problem at hand, isn't it? That human beings are not logical creatures, but biological creatures. That are running around like too many hamsters in too small a cage, desperate for a meaning that doesn't exist. Needing to believe in the adult version of Santa Claus. Because we are not biologically geared to deal with how the universe actually is: Completely and utterly indifferent with us.

 
CEngelbrecht said:
It's gonna be difficult to have a rational debate about this tremendously complex problem, if you're not capable of dealing with physical reality.
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I just described to you facts concerning physical reality. The problem is not my inability to deal with physical reality, but your inability to deal with spiritual reality.
 
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