psychic powers
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Argument ad Ignorantiam at it's finest.
There isn't a single shred of observed evidence to sudgest this as a logical possibility.
False analogy, Men and woman dont actualy attract by thoughts, those thoughts create other thoughts which then drive their motor-functions.
Next, 'telekinesis' simply moves the problem back a step, what then is telekinesis and what causes it?
Finally, in order for thoughts to exist, there needs to be life, and life requires gravity to have existed eons before.
-Andrew
andbna said:
spacetimecurviture? don't even give me that shit... it explains nothing and there is no proof of it and it makes no sense (space can't bend its nothing, time can't bend its a sensation)
read my post here if you don't believe it: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=71977
if gravity is telekinesis it changes everything. it means that universe is not physical, it's mental like a dream. consciousness didnt come from matter, mind created and designed life and everything. its the only thing that makes sense!!
every atom is alive. how else do you explain atomic motion? a thing can move only if there is willpower. life doesn't require gravity, gravity requires life.
Main Entry: tele·ki·ne·sis
Pronunciation: "te-li-k&-'nE-s&s, -kI-
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
: the production of motion in objects
(as by a spiritualistic medium)
without contact or other physical means.
So therefore you need someone to create the tele·ki·ne·sis to start off with and I don't believe that any human being can use it to move planets, galaxies, or constelations. If so please tell me who.
Yorda, you have got to be THE biggest faker on this site!
It's impossible for someone to be living in the 21st century and believe all the garbage that you claim to.Argument ad ignorantiam still holds no matter how credible/discredible an opposing theory is: the point is is that it doesn't matter; proof that the opposing theory is false, or as of yet unprooven, is not proof that your theory is correct. Of course, you didnt even proove the opposing theroy was false, instead you offer an Appeal to Ridicule which might stem from a lack of understanding for the theory (which again, is not proof that it is false.)
I won't address whether that post contains any truth or not because frankly, the analogy is still false, mental attraction, even explained the that post, is still chemical, and scientific, with no relevance to 'telekinesis.'
Pretty big if, and since there is absolutly no proof for the theory, the conclusions drawn from the 'if's are meaningless... might this be some more appeal to emotion?
-Andrew
there are many paranormal abilities, but many of them are actually just a form of telekinesis. phasing for example. it means that you can go through solid objects. you change your atomic vibration simply by thinking that you can go through walls. theres a guy in heroes who can do this.
watch out if you haven't learned it well enough, if you materialize inside a wall, your atoms will merge with the wall and you will die.
you don't seem to understand that planets, galaxies and every single atom in the universe has these telekinetic powers that scientists call magnetism and gravity. what's special about humans is that we are the only ones who can gain conscious control of this power and move objects with with it.
a long time ago there were people who were so good at using this energy that they didn't need to create airplanes because they could fly without them.
i don't even like star wars. it's so BORING.
watch out if you haven't learned it well enough, if you materialize inside a wall, your atoms will merge with the wall and you will die.
cosmictraveler said:
you don't seem to understand that planets, galaxies and every single atom in the universe has these telekinetic powers that scientists call magnetism and gravity. what's special about humans is that we are the only ones who can gain conscious control of this power and move objects with with it.
a long time ago there were people who were so good at using this energy that they didn't need to create airplanes because they could fly without them.
i don't even like star wars. it's so BORING.
No: some believe there are.
None proven.
You do know that's a fictional TV series?
You don't seem to understand that this is pure speculation with no supporting evidence whatsoever.
Wishful thinking.
And pigs flew with them?
You.. see things?
Yorda, get an education.
scientists think that they believe when they see it. but they don't understand that seeing is not believing; believing is seeing.
it was just an example. i don't know any real example, but maybe reality is fiction too.
logical thinking. if we can generate gravity subconsciously, then of course it's possible to do it consciously too.
only if pigs were in their wagons. later when humans devolved, they couldn't fly anymore so they let the lions pull their wagons. they controlled the lions with their thoughts. they couldn't use horses because they didn't exist yet.
what kind of education do you mean? in my country it's impossible to be uneducated because education is obligatory.
*shudders*... your country has failed you or vice versa. Basically it comes down to you not being able (or wanting to) distinguish between reality and fantasy and you seem to have almost no (or pretend not to) scientific knowledge. Even students coming out of the most theistical and unaccredited schools in my area aren't this far gone.
If your case is inability then likely all your schooling to date needs to be redone. If its simply a matter of not wanting to then psychological education would help you.
Want to comment on something...
Oniw says
"Subconscious implies thatyour brain has something to do with it, which it doesn't. "
Referring to gravity or whatever.
What is the statement made by yorda.
If we can generate gravity subconsciously.
So what the fuck is that lol.
But does he have a point?
Can we generate gravity subconsciously? I don't know if he is saying what he means to say.
Same with another guy before. If this is an understanding error correct me, but it may still have the same ending.
Basically, can we generate gravity with our subconscious mind. This is a statement, a premise, regardless to all of the educatedness that emplies aganist it otherwise.
Many things can be done subconsciously, unconsciously, or what is called "psychic" like, to where most people wouldn't accept it and would consider the person a psychic or something. This is where the term comes from on occasion. Doctors lock paitents up or whatnot because they're complaining about things that are entirely unrealistic. Anyway,
Gravity being generated?
When a person falls apart (as the person is the basis to our experiences as I say it),
he falls apart.
You see what he's made of.
That's all he's made of right?
So. Gravity can be manipulated. Generated. I wish he would explain that..
Oniw says
"Subconscious implies thatyour brain has something to do with it, which it doesn't. "
Referring to gravity or whatever.
What is the statement made by yorda.
If we can generate gravity subconsciously.
So what the fuck is that lol.
But does he have a point?
Can we generate gravity subconsciously? I don't know if he is saying what he means to say.
Same with another guy before. If this is an understanding error correct me, but it may still have the same ending.
Basically, can we generate gravity with our subconscious mind. This is a statement, a premise, regardless to all of the educatedness that emplies aganist it otherwise.
Many things can be done subconsciously, unconsciously, or what is called "psychic" like, to where most people wouldn't accept it and would consider the person a psychic or something. This is where the term comes from on occasion. Doctors lock paitents up or whatnot because they're complaining about things that are entirely unrealistic. Anyway,
Gravity being generated?
When a person falls apart (as the person is the basis to our experiences as I say it),
he falls apart.
You see what he's made of.
That's all he's made of right?
So. Gravity can be manipulated. Generated. I wish he would explain that..
No scientists test and repeat the test to see if it holds up.
Ooooh, maybe.
maybe I'll be dead tomorrow, maybe you'll see sense tomorrow, maybe the moon will be made of cheese.
Logical thinking? Barely qualifies as "thinking" let alone "logical".
Can we create gravity subconsciously?
Not proven or demonstrated.
Arrant nonsense or total bollocks.
Take your pick.
Doesn't show.