im sure this came up in that thread on porn stars as well, the courts couldnt and wouldnt impose a remidy (at least here) which required someone to have sex (i wonder what would happen to an impotent prostitute, they would be incapable of forfiling the contract which would make it invalid *shrug*) but they might well require compensation to be paid (especially if it GOT to the courts) and civil penelties for theft might well applie if they took money and refused the service
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im sure this came up in that thread on porn stars as well, the courts couldnt and wouldnt impose a remidy (at least here) which required someone to have sex (i wonder what would happen to an impotent prostitute, they would be incapable of forfiling the contract which would make it invalid *shrug*) but they might well require compensation to be paid (especially if it GOT to the courts) and civil penelties for theft might well applie if they took money and refused the service
I really don't understand the concept of how prostitutes are any less worthy of respect just because they earn their money with the services they provide with their body.
Today when I went to town I saw homeless-looking women with their children sitting on the cold stone passages, and begging for money. The kids were obviously freezing. Honestly, I would prefer to see these women earning their money through prostitution instead of dragging their own children unto the street to evoke in people the feeling of 'pity' for her and the kid. I have a lot more respect for prostitutes than the likes of beggars who use their children to earn a bit of cash.
Today when I went to town I saw homeless-looking women with their children sitting on the cold stone passages, and begging for money. The kids were obviously freezing. Honestly, I would prefer to see these women earning their money through prostitution instead of dragging their own children unto the street to evoke in people the feeling of 'pity' for her and the kid. I have a lot more respect for prostitutes than the likes of beggars who use their children to earn a bit of cash.
Enmos
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Maybe she actually was homeless.
In India, these women sell their children as well as themselves for sex. Sometimes as young as five years of age. Some of them allow their children to be mutilated and rented out for begging. On principle, I never give money to beggars, its my belief that what you reward, you encourage. I would rather support the education of one child than give alms to ten.
Same reason, I don't think encouraging prostitution is a good idea. There will always be prostitutes as long as there are sexual predators in society, but that does not mean I have to contribute to it.
Fixed.
There will always be sex!!!!!!
Since when does sleeping with a prostitute turn a person into a sexual predator? What the Hell...
So what is it? Love? Temporary insanity? Uncontrollable biological urges? A sprained wrist? Seeing a woman as more than a receptacle for cum? Admiring her mind and personality?
Its sexual predation. If the victim was a child, the amount of money paid or any idea of "consent" to barter would not change the fact that it is predation.
Probably just a desire to have sex and a willingness to pay money to avoid the effort/time/whatever involved in persuading another person to have it with them for free.
Its just sex. Its no different than a one night stand except for the fact that money changes hands.
You think so?
Sounds quite different to me than "just sex"
http://economics.uchicago.edu/pdf/Prostitution 5.pdf
That too.
yes, I do
It depends entirely on the people involved. However, I tend to think that this is fairly accurate in most cases:
"Having studied the dynamics of sexual arousal for almost 15 years, and having treated dozens of men who find prostitutes irresistible, I have found that for the overwhelming majority of them, the appeal lies in the fact that, after payment is made, the woman is experienced as completely devoted to the man -- to his pleasure, his satisfaction, his care, his happiness. The man doesn't have to please a prostitute, doesn't have to make her happy, doesn't have to worry about her emotional needs or demands. He can give or take without the burden of reciprocity. He can be entirely selfish. He can be especially aggressive or especially passive, and not only is the woman not upset, she acts aroused. He is not responsible for her in any way. She is entirely focused on him. He is the center of the world. Now, of course, these interactions are scripted. The prostitute is acting. But it doesn't matter. For men who like to go to go to prostitutes, the illusion of authenticity is enough."
http://www.alternet.org/sex/79635/
Now I've never been to a prostitute but I've been to a strip club once or twice and it is certainly a nice feeling to walk into a room and have two or three beautiful women come over immediately and start fawning over me like I was the latest incarnation of James Bond.
I tend to think that mostly what is being bought and sold is a fantasy. Of course, there is a dark side to this... some people have dark fantasies. But to paint it all with the same brush is disingenuous. To label it akin to the sexual predation of children and slavery is insulting... well... to everyone, the johns, the prostitutes, and to children and slaves too.
~Raithere
I am not sure how your confirmation that a prostitute is just an object of sexual gratification which is not seen as a person with needs and desires is anyway indicative of contradicting my stance that their body is being used as if it were separate from the person possessing it. The very fact that men who frequent prostitutes do so because they do not have to acknowledge the woman as anything but their slave corroborates the fact that they are predators.
Bells
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Interesting..
Do you think that that only men seek the service of prostitutes?
Is it the fact that they are paying for sex that makes them predators? What about men and women who partake in BDSM where sometimes one party is not acknowledged or treated as the 'slave' in the relationship and who has to follow orders (submissive)? Are they (the dominant individual) sexual predators as well?
No, but I was responding specifically to the results of the study that Raithere gave
What about it? Its called sexual deviance/paraphilia for a reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia