Osama Bin Laden is Dead

Oh go ahead and celebrate!

Miley Cyrus song 'Party in the USA' used to celebrate Osama Bin Laden death


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C'mon SAM--they're just celebrating their freedom! You know, their freedom to gather in orderly crowds and wave flags and look like a bunch of fucking dumb asses.

And all the while remaining altogether complacent over their own plight (foreclosures, unemployment, future prospects for virtually no public education, healthcare, and whatnots) and that which they've wreaked upon others oh-so brown and far-away.
 
And by the way, this is the theme song:

Sacrifice

Can't you hear the war cry
It's time to enlist
The people speak as one
The cattle, the crowd
Those too afraid to live
Demand a sacrifice
Demand a sacrifice
Demand a sacrifice of your life
Sacrifice

Can you smell their stinking breath
Listen to them
Chanting and gasing and
Chanting their slogans
It's a grave digger's song
Praising God and state
So the nation will live
So we all can remain as cattle
They demand a sacrifice
They demand a sacrifice
They demand a s sacrifice of your life
Sacrifice
 
Neither face nor palm

Source: BBC News
Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13268517
Title: "Bin Laden: Pakistan intelligence agency admits failures"
Date: May 3, 2011

What, really, are they supposed to say? From the BBC:

Pakistan's main intelligence agency, the ISI, has said it is embarrassed by its failures on al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden.

An ISI official told the BBC the compound in Abbottabad where Bin Laden was killed by US forces on Sunday had been raided several years ago.

But the compound "was not on our radar" since then, the official said.

The government of Pakistan has categorically denied any knowledge of the raid before it took place.

No base within Pakistan was used by US forces, the ministry of foreign affairs said in a statement.

It went on: "US helicopters entered Pakistani airspace making use of blind spots in the radar coverage due to hilly terrain."

However, the ministry defended the ISI, saying: "As far as the target compound is concerned, ISI had been sharing information with CIA and other friendly intelligence agencies since 2009" ....

.... The ISI official gave new details of the raid, saying Bin Laden's young daughter had said she saw her father shot.

He told the BBC's Owen Bennett-Jones in Islamabad that the compound in Abbottabad, just 100km (62 miles) from the capital, was raided when under construction in 2003.

It was believed an al-Qaeda operative, Abu Faraj al-Libi, was there.

But since then, "the compound was not on our radar, it is an embarrassment for the ISI", the official said. "We're good, but we're not God."

He added: "This one failure should not make us look totally incompetent. Look at our track record. For the last 10 years, we have captured Taliban and al-Qaeda in their hundreds - more than any other countries put together."

The compound is just a few hundred metres from the Pakistan Military Academy - the country's equivalent of West Point or Sandhurst.

I think there are neither proverbial face nor palm big enough for the Pakistani government right now.

I can't find a punch line, because, unfortunately, this one wrote itself.
 
So... there are people that don't think he is dead? Well I figure all his family member they supposedly capture can testify to that, lets wait and see.

I don't have an opinion on his state of mortality, I'm just pointing out that no one saw the body.

C'mon SAM--they're just celebrating their freedom! You know, their freedom to gather in orderly crowds and wave flags and look like a bunch of fucking dumb asses.

And all the while remaining altogether complacent over their own plight (foreclosures, unemployment, future prospects for virtually no public education, healthcare, and whatnots) and that which they've wreaked upon others oh-so brown and far-away.

Dancing on graves is an old tradition. It just shows how thin is the veneer of civilisation.
 
I don't have an opinion on his state of mortality, I'm just pointing out that no one saw the body.

No one here, you mean? Because a bunch of people claim to have seen said body, and have put their careers behind said claim.

Dancing on graves is an old tradition. It just shows how thin is the veneer of civilisation.

You probably mean "civility," rather than "civilization" there. Those skyscrapers in the background of the photo indicate a fairly trenchant layer of "civilization," far beyond a mere "veneer."

But probably the response to OBL's death is not among the most glaring examples of breached civility one might find in the history of his relations with New York. It's a fairly obtuse concern, in such a context.
 
Who are you kidding, you won't believe it even when they release photos of his corpse.

That depends on which version of Osama it turns out to be. Meanwhile, he was in Pakistan, in a military town. He was flown out to sea and disposed of without a single independent observer verifying the body. So yeah, any "photos" or "videos" would be highly suspect. Especially considering that no one in Abottabad ever saw him, including the maid who cleaned his house. No one ever saw or met the wife or kids, they never left the house even to go to school or shopping or visiting. The only people seen by the locals were two men, who spoke Pashto and were considered by the locals as Pakistanis. Meanwhile, everyone and his kids [and the immediate neighbors] are in "custody" and there is no body.
 
Especially considering that no one in Abottabad ever saw him, including the maid who cleaned his house. No one ever saw or met the wife or kids, they never left the house even to go to school or shopping or visiting. The only people seen by the locals were two men, who spoke Pashto and were considered by the locals as Pakistanis.

Please present your evidence for all of these assertions, and let us know which court of law they will be appearing in.
 
hummm unfortunately i would be a hypocrite if i dissed the guys who partied to binlids death
eventhough dark can not be conquered by dark but light i still ahve no legs to stand on

mind you i ahve heard on the radio over the last day or 2 when people have been talking abolut it and whether we would party liekt hjis in the UK that we did party after VE day but taking out the ol' bin lid i would imagine is surely different to defeating nazi germany

I don't think they were partying because Osama died, even though according to Sam they have should been out on the streets 8x's with every rumor of his death. I believe they were celebrating because for many it was a signal that perhaps they are closer to seeing an end of this 9 year war. I noticed in Washington most in the were say in their 20's, some of them will have peers who have gone into this war or come back from it.

Americans are war tired, tired of being afraid, tired of worrying about random attacks etc and I think this was just one marker that perhaps they are gaining ground and perhaps closer to an end to this strange new times.
 
Evidence of what?

Of the sundry factual assertions you advanced, and which I quoted directly above my request for supporting evidence. What else?

So far all we really have is blood soaked tiles and a missing corpse

Please provide evidence that there are any un-accounted-for corpses.

And: shall we read this as a renunciation of your previous claims, for which evidence was requested?
 
I hear the haveli in Abootabad has been opened to the public - bloodstains over the floor and all. Apparently the women and children were all tied up by the troops and OBL was shot in front of at least one of the kids [a preteen daughter].

Wanna bet the incident grows in ghoulishness and this becomes a tourist destination?

Why you know of many Westerner's who go to Pakistan unless they absolutely have to? Its hardly the destination spot of the East.
 
This body that they shoved over the side of an air craft carrier in undue haste.
I hope they've tied a transmitter to it so they can retrieve it..
They might need it.

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What do you mean you want him back?
 
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Of the sundry factual assertions you advanced, and which I quoted directly above my request for supporting evidence. What else?

What evidence is there for the negative? If nobody saw him, that cannot be proved. Can we see ANY evidence of his presence there?

Please provide evidence that there are any un-accounted-for corpses.

Good point. So all we have is a photo allegedly of blood soaked tiles, allegedly of a haveli in Abottabad
 
That depends on which version of Osama it turns out to be. Meanwhile, he was in Pakistan, in a military town. He was flown out to sea and disposed of without a single independent observer verifying the body. So yeah, any "photos" or "videos" would be highly suspect. Especially considering that no one in Abottabad ever saw him, including the maid who cleaned his house. No one ever saw or met the wife or kids, they never left the house even to go to school or shopping or visiting. The only people seen by the locals were two men, who spoke Pashto and were considered by the locals as Pakistanis. Meanwhile, everyone and his kids [and the immediate neighbors] are in "custody" and there is no body.

How do you know there was ever a Bin Laden? Maybe we just made him up. We like to make up enemies and then kill them, it's good for our self-esteem.
 
That depends on which version of Osama it turns out to be. Meanwhile, he was in Pakistan, in a military town. He was flown out to sea and disposed of without a single independent observer verifying the body. So yeah, any "photos" or "videos" would be highly suspect. Especially considering that no one in Abottabad ever saw him, including the maid who cleaned his house. No one ever saw or met the wife or kids, they never left the house even to go to school or shopping or visiting. The only people seen by the locals were two men, who spoke Pashto and were considered by the locals as Pakistanis. Meanwhile, everyone and his kids [and the immediate neighbors] are in "custody" and there is no body.

What you expected his wife to throw garden parties so people can come over to visit the hubby? :bugeye:

Did you expect the Americans to bring in UN observers to check the bodies armpits for tattoos? His dead body is of little concern. You can choose to not believe he's dead or choose to believe he never existed or choose to believe he's been happily buried for years. It really doesn't matter, because your 'he's been dead' angle also fails to provide physical evidence ie: body, gravesite, independent observers, DNA report etc.

So all of that is irrelevant. You happily believed a report that produced not the slightest bit of evidence nor was believed by any world governments. Go figure.
 
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