Osama Bin Laden is Dead

[Zakariya04]

Isn't that Islamic tradition? They do that in Judaism too.

well yes spider it is?? but why worry about islamic tradition with ol bin lid, as if he worried about any tradition when he was plannign slaughtering of humans whether muslim, christian, jew, budhist, hindu blah blah blah

So the US get the world most wanted man and say oh shit guys we better make sure we bury him withn 24 hour or a few nut jobs maybe pissed.
i doubt muslims would have been pissed espically the families of the muslims he slaughtered or planned the slaughter of

 

[spidergoat]

It's a strategic move to show respect for Islam, even if we don't respect Osama.

 

[Zakariya04]

It's a strategic move to show respect for Islam, even if we don't respect Osama.

hummm u think??!!?? perhpas u have thought of something

or do u just think its convenient!?

i am not so sure about this

I am hoping in the eyes of most muslims that osmama was just a mass murderer and not a muslim so therefore it doesnt apply anyway..

He is as much as a muslim as mussolini or hitler or whoever were christians blah blah blah

 

[S.A.M.]

sam is raining on our parade
a party pooper

Oh go ahead and celebrate!

Miley Cyrus song 'Party in the USA' used to celebrate Osama Bin Laden death

Anthem for Osama​

 

[Zakariya04]

hummm unfortunately i would be a hypocrite if i dissed the guys who partied to binlids death
eventhough dark can not be conquered by dark but light i still ahve no legs to stand on

mind you i ahve heard on the radio over the last day or 2 when people have been talking abolut it and whether we would party liekt hjis in the UK that we did party after VE day but taking out the ol' bin lid i would imagine is surely different to defeating nazi germany

 

[S.A.M.]

I hear the haveli in Abootabad has been opened to the public - bloodstains over the floor and all. Apparently the women and children were all tied up by the troops and OBL was shot in front of at least one of the kids [a preteen daughter].

Wanna bet the incident grows in ghoulishness and this becomes a tourist destination?

 

[The Esotericist]

Jesus this thread has grown so fast, can anyone summarize it, in summary what conclusions has the sciforum community made about these events?

For those in cognitive dissonance who live their lives by what the government and media tell them is reality. . .

sam is raining on our parade
a party pooper

Yes, this is the truth of the matter.
Otherwise. . .
It is a series of arguments against evidence presented to support the proposition that OBL has been dead for some time. For concise summary and documentation of this:
http://littlecountrylost.blogspot.com/2008/01/benazir-bhutto-omar-shiekh-murdered.html
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

As thinking members of an intellectual forum, we have the use of our logic and our facilities, and the freedom to choose which paradigm makes the most sense to us. We can do this by figuring out which narrative holds the most weight in two ways. First, which one has the most evidence to support it. And second, by understanding who gains by having the most people believe in which narrative. It matters not who owns the means by which the narratives are disseminated. Anyone who studies the means by which the media and the public minds are controlled would understand this. Unfortunately? There are very few on here who truly understand how easily this last point of public perception and media manipulation is done. Goebbels and Edward Bernays understood this, you would think by now it would be common knowledge. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/about.html
Added to that, in a story like this? The news IS what the government tells the media it is.

 

[Zakariya04]

I hear the haveli in Abootabad has been opened to the public - bloodstains over the floor and all. Apparently the women and children were all tied up by the troops and OBL was shot in front of at least one of the kids [a preteen daughter].

Wanna bet the incident grows in ghoulishness and this becomes a tourist destination?

well you know the US military does love to shootem up

i like the human shield bit, ok that could be true but then again its probably that they just shot every1 on site and then afterwards came out with a story to make the binlid look even worse as if they could say they shot her through gun hoo shooting blah blah blah blah

 

[S.A.M.]

well you know the US military does love to shootem up

i like the human shield bit, ok that could be true but then again its probably that they just shot every1 on site and then afterwards came out with a story to make the binlid look even worse as if they could say they shot her through gun hoo shooting blah blah blah blah

There are contradictory reports on that. Apparently, the woman jumped in front of her husband when the troops broke into the house and aimed at him. They had to tie her and the kids up before they could shoot Easter OBL and his son [some are saying Hamza, others are saying Khalid] and apparently some other guys. American women would of course abandon the husband and jump out of the window [sorry dude, I know I said for better or for worse, but only till death do us part!] I think the implication that they were shooting back is false. There is no indication that anyone was shooting back and there were apparently several children [about 10?] in the house so its unlikely to have become a free for all.

More news as people visit the shrine and report [or tweet]

 

[Zakariya04]

There are contradictory reports on that. Apparently, the woman jumped in front of her husband when the troops broke into the house. American women would of course abandon the husband and jump out of the window.

well i just reckon the yanks shot the hell out of everythign and everyone and then just came up with a story to suit..

they are good at that!!

Imagine sucha good propaganda stunt to say binlid used her as a human shield..

mind you if i was a whanker liek the binlid i dotn know how any woman would want a bit of me but thats that i guess

midn you i dont know whetehr he was a wanker on a perosn level and how he treated his birds so i could be talkign nonsense for a change!!

 

[S.A.M.]

well i just reckon the yanks shot the hell out of everythign and everyone and then just came up with a story to suit..

they are good at that!!

Imagine sucha good propaganda stunt to say binlid used her as a human shield..

mind you if i was a whanker liek the binlid i dotn know how any woman would want a bit of me but thats that i guess

midn you i dont know whetehr he was a wanker on a perosn level and how he treated his birds so i could be talkign nonsense for a change!!

Its very strange - we have so much news but no information

A senior Pakistani intelligence official said one of Osama bin Laden's daughters had seen her father being shot dead by U.S. forces, and was one of about 10 relatives of the al Qaeda leader in custody pending interrogation.

The official, who declined to be identified, said the daughter, aged 12 or 13, was one of the people who had confirmed that the mastermind of the September 11, 2001 attacks had been killed by U.S. commandos in a raid early on Monday.

The relatives -- one of bin Laden's wives and up to eight children -- will be interrogated and then probably turned over to their countries of origin, and not the United States, in accordance with Pakistani law, he said.

The official said the wife and children were left behind after an American transport helicopter, possibly an MH-60 Sea Hawk, was abandoned because of mechanical problems.

He said there was not enough room for the group on the other helicopters, which were transporting bin Laden's body, other male captives and the commandos.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011...bin-laden-wife-children-idUSTRE7423SK20110503

So still no names for anyone. Neither the wife nor the daughter

Latest vid here:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

I have to say, the house doesn't look anything like that of an Arab - too simple and poor in quality furniture and furnishings.

 

[CptBork]

Its very strange - we have so much news but no information

I already said the real killer was Techno Viking, the Navy SEALs and wife stories are just covers. That's why you don't have all the top secret CIA training vids and raid videos you could otherwise leak to our enemies.

 

[S.A.M.]

http://www.spike.com/video-clips/322orx/osama-bin-laden-family-guy

 

[ElectricFetus]

So... there are people that don't think he is dead? Well I figure all his family member they supposedly capture can testify to that, lets wait and see.

 

[MacGyver1968]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbk8pq2LroI&feature=player_embedded

 

[quadraphonics]

Have you heard the reports that bin laden used a woman, possibly his wife, as a human shield? This man who sent how many others on suicide missions in the name of radical Islam, rather than bravely facing his end, went out like a coward. Literally hiding behind a woman.

I've heard those, and the later reports that they were bullshit.

Seemed too Pat Tillman-esque by half from the get-go, that one.

 

[joepistole]

I've heard those, and the later reports that they were bullshit.

Seemed too Pat Tillman-esque by half from the get-go, that one.

Time will tell. I heard his wife lunged at the SEALS and was shot in the ankle.

- White House Press Briefing 5/3/11

 

[quadraphonics]

:shrugs: yes, it's a conspiracy theory, but it seems like a more 'natural' explanation of some of the alleged facts than some of the ideas that have been tossed around in this thread so far.

Only if your take the "alleged fact" of his dieing 8 years ago as requiring explanation.

When what it actually requires is some evidence that it isn't total bullshit.

 

[ElectricFetus]

Well I heard aliens were involved in the firefight and beamed Osama back to their home planet.

Seriously, enough with the rumors.

 

[CptBork]

Ok ok I digress, the real reason SAM doesn't have access to classified US national security videos, is because they first have to obtain a copyright on the ops team's bin Laden headshot footage. They will then market and merchandise this footage to pay off 1/3 of America's national debt.