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spidergoat said:
No, a German win was inevitable.
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um the jewish victory over the arabs was for more inevitable that the german victory over france.

France had more soldiers armed with roughly comparable equipment and in some cases better. They lost to a force that was weaker.
The jews had almost every advantage. They had more troops for most of the war. Better equipment and better training They beat a force that was weaker.


Which seems more inevitable.
 
spidergoat said:
No, a German win was inevitable.
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How does that affect this?
Capturing land is a defensive move. When police "secure" an area, it's the same thing, make sure an attack can't come from there. They gave most of it back.
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You could opt for German invasion of Poland, Russia, etc, any one of the choices.
 
pjdude1219 said:
they have given next to none back. They weren't going to slaughter shit. They wanted to ensure stabilty in palestine so they would have to deal with refugees. Capturing land is in offensive move period. It can be used in a larger defensive context but it is offesive by its very nature. It wasn't amazing victory it was almost a forgone conclusion.
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Oh, an unformed nation against what, 4 or 5 Arab nations with standing armies and air forces? Nothing inevitable about that. They gave back the vast majority of it almost immediately. They later re-occupied a small portion, but that was many years later. But I guess the Arabs can do no wrong.
 
It was a bunch of Europeans with money, military training and an objective, who attacked a group of people that had no idea their land was going to be taken over and themselves thrown out. They had no experience of that kind of colonisation, since they have been living there for 5,000 to 7,000 years without being kicked off their lands.

France wasn't about to invade Germany.
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Palestinians did not cause the Holocaust.
 
pjdude1219 said:
um the jewish victory over the arabs was for more inevitable that the german victory over france.
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The German army was one of the most advanced in the world. Their blitz tactics had no equal. France's armies were unprepared and underequipped.
 
S.A.M. said:
It was a bunch of Europeans with money, military training and an objective, who attacked a group of people that had no idea their land was going to be taken over and themselves thrown out. They had no experience of that kind of colonisation, since they have been living there for 5,000 to 7,000 years without being kicked off their lands.
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They must have had some idea, because they were planning to attack Israel, that's a historical fact.
 
There was no Israel, remember? Just a bunch of immigrants from Europe. And Palestinians were the ones with the land. You cannot attack what does not exist. But they had every right to defend their own.
 
spidergoat said:
Oh, an unformed nation against what, 4 or 5 Arab nations with standing armies and air forces? Nothing inevitable about that. They gave back the vast majority of it almost immediately. They later re-occupied a small portion, but that was many years later. But I guess the Arabs can do no wrong.
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??? How is annexing all of the palestinian land giving most of it back. Are ignorant or just plain dishonest? Arabs can do wrong i have stated that. according to you they can do no right and the jews can do wrong. Try and at least to pretend to be intellectally honest on this topic
 
pjdude1219 said:
??? How is annexing all of the palestinian land giving most of it back. Are ignorant or just plain dishonest? Arabs can do wrong i have stated that. according to you they can do no right and the jews can do wrong. Try and at least to pretend to be intellectally honest on this topic
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Read a history book.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
So you didn't read any history, well you have proved that often enough.
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nice non sequiter. Yet another logical fallicy to your belt. I have proven to read history. You on the other hand have as a poor grasp on history as you do on most subjects
 
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