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draqon said:
exactly, the Jews are creating Holocaust for the Palestinians, except the books probably will not be reading it as a "Holocaust" more like the awesome freedom fighters of Israel have blah blah....basically lies.
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for someone that thinks jews are parasites you certainly have a lot to say about the holocaust.
 
So the holocaust is still going - Jews believe they are fighting for the survival of their nation and their people, just like Hitler wanted Germans to believe they had to do--find some "living room", by taking it off other people who aren't German--they can take it off people who aren't Jewish, because only Jews, and their homeland, are important.
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really? so explain this:
Israel's unilateral disengagement plan (Hebrew: תוכנית ההתנתקות Tokhnit HaHitnatkut or תכנית ההינתקות Tokhnit HaHinatkut in the Disengagement Plan Implementation Law), also known as the "Disengagement plan", "Gaza Pull-Out plan", and "Hitnatkut") was a proposal by Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, adopted by the government and enacted in August 2005, to remove all of the Israelis from the Gaza Strip and from four settlements in the northern West Bank.

Those Israeli citizens that refused to accept government compensation packages and voluntarily vacate their homes prior to the August 15, 2005 deadline, were evicted by Israeli security forces over a period of several days.[1] Demolition of the residential buildings and the evacuation of all residents and associated security personnel from the Gaza Strip was completed by September 12, 2005.[2] Evacuation and dismantlement of the four settlements in the northern West Bank was completed ten days later.
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and this:
The realignment plan (Hebrew: תוכנית ההתכנסות‎) (originally dubbed the "convergence plan") was formulated and introduced to the Israeli public by prime minister Ehud Olmert, in a number of media interviews during the election campaign for the 17th Knesset in early 2006. Olmert stated that if he was elected prime minister, within four years he would remove Israeli settlements from most of West Bank(Judea and Samaria) and consolidate them into large groups of settlements near the 1967 border. The area of removal would correspond to the area east of the route of the West Bank barrier that was begun under his predecessor, Ariel Sharon, or a similar route with national consent and international legitimization.

During the campaign for the March 2006 election, Sharon was still officially prime minister, but unable to carry out his duties, to communicate or to run in the election due to the major stroke that he suffered on January 4, 2006. Olmert, who became acting prime minister and Kadima party leader after Sharon's stroke, stated that in pursuing a realignment of settlements, he was operating in Sharon's spirit, and that if Sharon had been able to continue carrying out his duties, he would have acted in a similar way.

Although the Hebrew name of the plan has not changed, the English name has been changed from "convergence" to "consolidation" and finally to "realignment", as the Washington Times [1] and the "language maven" William Safire [2] have noted.

New Historian Ilan Pappe has noted that "hitkansut", (the Hebrew word used for the plan), most aptly translates as "ingathering". Pappe submits that the plan is designed to address the "demographic threat" posed by Palestinian population growth to the maintenance of a "Jewish state", by leaving several populous Palestinian areas outside direct Israeli control. [3]

After the Israel Lebanon conflict of 2006, Olmert announced to his cabinet that the plan to dismantle some Jewish settlements in the West Bank and unilaterally redraw the Israel's borders would not be implemented for the time being [4].
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Mr.Spock said:
for someone that thinks jews are parasites you certainly have a lot to say about the holocaust.
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again...you suggested it yourself. And what are they doing in land of Palestine anyway than? How is that called? Hanging out? :bugeye:
 
draqon said:
again...you suggested it yourself. And what are they doing in land of Palestine anyway than? How is that called? Hanging out? :bugeye:
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i suggested it? do you have any brain at all..or is it all just hot air up there?
 
Mr.Spock said:
i suggested it? do you have any brain at all..or is it all just hot air up there?
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hey your accusations are phony, you are making some monster image out of me, thinking of me as a regular human just like you are is hard, isn't it? Shows what you think of the natives of their own land the Palestinians from which the self proclaimed Israel was made
 
draqon said:
hey your accusations are phony, you are making some monster image out of me, thinking of me as a regular human just like you are is hard, isn't it? Shows what you think of the natives of their own land the Palestinians from which the self proclaimed Israel was made
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maybe take responsibility for your actions for a change instead of blaming the first jew on sight?

* havoc in Germany started by Jews
* havoc in Russia started by Jews
* Palestine stolen
* in USA they become the richest of the rich, make others their subordinates
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http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1773871&postcount=11
 
As for the plan by Israel to redraw the state borders, the only reason is it wants to keep all the illegal settlements that have been built on occupied territory. They want the "leibensraum", Arabs are not part of Israel's plans, they're an unwanted menace, a security problem. A few more walls, military bases, and tanks should sort it.

"Security" is just another buzzword, Hitler used that one too. How many Palestinians get killed in retaliatory military actions by vengeful Jews? Where do the Czech's fit in to this picture BTW?
 
Vkothii said:
As for the plan by Israel to redraw the state borders, the only reason is it wants to keep all the illegal settlements that have been built on occupied territory. They want the "leibensraum", Arabs are not part of Israel's plans, they're an unwanted menace, a security problem. A few more walls, military bases, and tanks should sort it.

"Security" is just another buzzword, Hitler used that one too. How many Palestinians get killed in retaliatory military actions by vengeful Jews? Where do the Czech's fit in to this picture BTW?
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did you actually read the plan? the settlements are by by-the ones in gaza are already history. at least read the damned thing first.
 
Mr.Spock said:
really? so explain this: {the Gaza pull out}...
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Again see post 788 for the explanation. True it was inconvenient to move about 10,000 Jews from Gaza into housing in the West bank. - Especially inconvenient for the Palestinians whose lands the west bank wall and Israeli laws were claiming for Israelis. ;)

But what else could Israel do to block the creation of the Palestine state when every major power (from US to Russia was demanding it)? That is why (as I predicted it would when plan was announced to leave Gaza) it was brilliant, simply brilliant.

Israel is extremely well informed and politically sophisticated. They knew, as I guessed when they announced the pull out, that the internal conflicts would demonstrate to the world that the Palestinians were not capable of self government, as least as a peaceful society. But to be sure that chaos would result Israeli periodically bombs and turns off the electric power etc.

Only by pulling out of Gaza could Israel block the creation of a Palestinian State. Brilliant, simply brilliant to have hit upon the only way to achieve that goal in face of universal demand for its creation by ALL of the world's major powers.
 
Billy T said:
Again see post 788 for the explanation. True it was inconvenient to move about 10,000 Jews from Gaza into housing in the West bank. - Especially inconvenient for the Palestinians whose lands the west bank wall and Israeli laws were claiming for Israelis. ;)

But what else could Israel do to block the creation of the Palestine state when every major power (from US to Russia was demanding it)? That is why (as I predicted it would when plan was announced to leave Gaza) it was brilliant, simply brilliant.

Israel is extremely well informed and politically sophisticated. They knew, as I guessed when they announced the pull out that the internal conflicts would demonstrate to the world that the Palestinians were not capable of self government, as least as peaceful society. But to be sure that chaos would result Israeli periodically bombs and turns off the electric power etc.

Only by pulling out of Gaza could Israel block the creation of a Palestinian State. Brilliant, simply brilliant to have hit upon the only way to achieve that goal in face of universal demand for its creation by ALL of the world's major powers.
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sure sure, it was just inconvenient to move them, demolish there homes, throw them in the garbage, uproot them, having terrorists shooting rockets at you, having hams rearmed and get stronger, having a war with hezbulla, destroying your deterring factor completely, no no, it was all just some big plan to throw the palestinians. what are a few dead jews along the way? :shrug:
 
Olmert announced to his cabinet that the plan to dismantle some Jewish settlements in the West Bank and unilaterally redraw the Israel's borders would not be implemented for the time being
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Translation: "the plan to demolish a token few illegal settlements, will not be implemented in the foreseeable future.
Israel has never had any plans to withdraw from illegal settlements, and doesn't intend to draw any up (except to try to make out it really wants peace, or something). It wants the place for Jews only - there isn't enough room for any subhuman races in our perfect land"
 
so this is how the rest of the world views our peace efforts - other some elaborate scheme to deport the palestinians(or worse, exterminate them) or another scheme to preserve our "supreme race" - even though there is no actual evidence on any reference to race, or any other proof this what israeli who voted olmert for PM think. i myself voted for the labor party for the disengagement plan because i thought it can work and maybe show our purpose is peace not war.


fool me once, shame on you! fool me twice, shame on me!

im not making the same mistake twice.
 
he is what they need to do create an area where you have young israelis and palistinians being forced to work together and than use those as a core for a peaceful unfied state
 
pjdude1219 said:
he is what they need to do create an area where you have young israelis and palistinians being forced to work together and than use those as a core for a peaceful unfied state
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peace? what peace? who is talking about peace? they are only talking on how they are going to kill us all an take over.

we were so dumb and naive to think that deporting our own citizens will show them we can have peace. it showed them they are winning!
 
Mr.Spock said:
peace? what peace? who is talking about peace? they are only talking on how they are going to kill us all an take over.

we were so dumb and naive to think that deporting our own citizens will show them we can have peace. it showed them they are winning!
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that why need to get them young before they are taught to hate the other and have their heads filled with their sides propaganda
 
pjdude1219 said:
that why need to get them young before they are taught to hate the other and have their heads filled with their sides propaganda
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thats is something only they can do. unfortunately, many of them are not young, and fully beileve in ideas such as this:

- there isn't enough room for any subhuman races in our perfect land
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personally i find this not only offensive but disgusting. jews have suffered more then any other "race" because they were considered as a subhuman race. the very idea makes me sick.
 
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