News From Gaza

[Mr.Spock]

Poor occupiers. Your lives are so oppressed by having to constantly violently put down the natives.

of course natives have certain rights the non natives have-such as the right to kill, murder, fire rockets, rape, steal, lie and blame the non natives for everything. and the evil non natives supply the natives with electricity, food, water while the good natives fire on the same fuel supplies the non natives give them. how evil the non natives are.

 

[S.A.M.]

Yeah its called self defense against foreign occupation. Tends to get a bit bloody. We had one from 1857 to 1947.

 

[Mr.Spock]

Yeah its called self defense against foreign occupation. Tends to get a bit bloody. We had one from 1857 to 1947.

like the arab gunman who killed 8 jewish kids at a yeshiva

Maybe the Arab Israeli was sexually abused

Ze'ev Sultanovitch was accused of sexually molesting a number of adult yeshiva students at the prestigious Merkaz Harav Yeshiva, which is considered the flagship of the national religious yeshivas (which is located at the Wohl Torah Center, and at the Orot yeshiva in Jerusalem and at the yeshiva in Har Bracha).

The police acted after receiving four complaints from yeshiva students between the ages of 20 and 30 who allegedly fell victim to Sultanovitch, a 40-year-old bachelor who teaches Jewish philosophy at Merkaz Harav.

According to their testimony, Sultanovitch would carry out his abuse in his apartment in the Kiryat Moshe neighborhood, across the street from the yeshiva or in his office. Sultanovitch has apparently lived alone since his mother died two years ago.

The police estimate that 10 students suffered sexual abuse from the teacher, although some have not filed a complaint. The police are also investigating whether Sultanovitch abused students at other yeshivas too.

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1777529&postcount=15

of course the arabs wont stop until theyll get what they want

 

[S.A.M.]

Probably they still remember Deir Yassin

Early in the morning of Friday, April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun, headed by Menachem Begin, and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents. It was several weeks before the end of the British Mandate. The village lay outside of the area that the United Nations recommended be included in a future Jewish State. Deir Yassin had a peaceful reputation and was even said by a Jewish newspaper to have driven out some Arab militants. But it was located on high ground in the corridor between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and one plan, kept secret until years afterwards, called for it to be destroyed and the residents evacuated to make way for a small airfield that would supply the beleaguered Jewish residents of Jerusalem.

By noon over 100 people, half of them women and children, had been systematically murdered. Four commandos died at the hands of resisting Palestinians using old Mausers and muskets. Twenty-five male villagers were loaded into trucks, paraded through the Zakhron Yosef quarter in Jerusalem, and then taken to a stone quarry along the road between Givat Shaul and Deir Yassin and shot to death. The remaining residents were driven to Arab East Jerusalem.

Do you?

 

[Mr.Spock]

Probably they still remember Deir Yassin



Do you?

i think they remember more 1929 - before Deir Yassin.

The Hebron Massacre refers to the mass murder of sixty-seven Jews on 23 and 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of the British Mandate of Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.

The carnage had a deep effect on the Jewish community. The survivors were forced to flee Hebron, and their property was seized by Arab residents and occupied until after the Six Day War of 1967.[1] It also led to the re-organization and development of the Jewish defense organization, the Haganah, which later became the nucleus of the Israel Defense Forces.


but what they do remember is haibar:

he Battle of Khaybar was fought in the year 629 between Muhammad and his followers against the Jews living in the oasis of Khaybar, located 150 kilometers (95 miles) from Medina in the north-western part of the Arabian peninsula, in modern-day Saudi Arabia. The Muslims attacked Jews who, having reached agreement with the Muslims and then broken their word, had barricaded themselves in a fort.[3]

Contemporary scholars such as Norman Stillman and Laura Veccia Vaglieri believe that one reason for Muhammad's decision to attack Khaybar in order to raise his prestige among his followers, as well as to capture booty to sustain subsequent conquests.[4][5] Furthermore, William Montgomery Watt notes the presence of the Banu Nadir in Khaybar, who were inciting hostilities along with neighboring Arab tribes against Muhammad.[4]

They surrendered on condition of paying tribute to Muhammad and giving up all their land to Muslims. According to Stillman, this agreement did not cover the Banu Nadir tribe, which had sought refuge in Khaybar after their expulsion from Medina, and the Muslims beheaded all the men of Banu Nadir, taking the surviving women and children as slaves.[6][Quotation needed from source] Jews continued to live in the oasis for several more years until they were finally expelled by caliph Umar. The imposition of tribute upon the conquered Jews served as a precedent for provisions in the Islamic law requiring the exaction of tribute known as jizya from non-Muslims under Muslim rule, and confiscation of land belonging to non-Muslims into the collective property of the Muslim community.[4][7][8]



خيبر خيبر يا يهود, جيش محمّد سيعود

remember haibar jews, mhuamad army will return.

 

[S.A.M.]

Of course they would attack immigrants who were pouring into their country with the intention to build a state as well as any collaborators.

Why is this a surprise? Wouldn't Israel attack Palestinians who poured in as well as any Arab Israelis who collaborated with them?

As for the rest, the sources are all unverified.

 

[Mr.Spock]

Of course they would attack immigrants who were pouring into their country with the intention to build a state as well as any collaborators.

Why is this a surprise?

As for the rest, the sources are all unverified.

so the arab solution was to butcher them. poor arabs. but who can blame them? nobody wants jews in their country.

which is why 800000 jews were deported by the arabs to israel, subsequently creating israel and boosting the jewish population by the factor of 2. very clever:wallbang:

 

[Mr.Spock]

and lets not forget the jewish community in hebron that was butchered was there for centuries.

 

[pjdude1219]

i think they remember more 1929 - before Deir Yassin.

The Hebron Massacre refers to the mass murder of sixty-seven Jews on 23 and 24 August 1929 in Hebron, then part of the British Mandate of Palestine, by Arabs incited to violence by false rumors that Jews were massacring Arabs in Jerusalem and seizing control of Muslim holy places.

The carnage had a deep effect on the Jewish community. The survivors were forced to flee Hebron, and their property was seized by Arab residents and occupied until after the Six Day War of 1967.[1] It also led to the re-organization and development of the Jewish defense organization, the Haganah, which later became the nucleus of the Israel Defense Forces.


but what they do remember is haibar:

he Battle of Khaybar was fought in the year 629 between Muhammad and his followers against the Jews living in the oasis of Khaybar, located 150 kilometers (95 miles) from Medina in the north-western part of the Arabian peninsula, in modern-day Saudi Arabia. The Muslims attacked Jews who, having reached agreement with the Muslims and then broken their word, had barricaded themselves in a fort.[3]

Contemporary scholars such as Norman Stillman and Laura Veccia Vaglieri believe that one reason for Muhammad's decision to attack Khaybar in order to raise his prestige among his followers, as well as to capture booty to sustain subsequent conquests.[4][5] Furthermore, William Montgomery Watt notes the presence of the Banu Nadir in Khaybar, who were inciting hostilities along with neighboring Arab tribes against Muhammad.[4]

They surrendered on condition of paying tribute to Muhammad and giving up all their land to Muslims. According to Stillman, this agreement did not cover the Banu Nadir tribe, which had sought refuge in Khaybar after their expulsion from Medina, and the Muslims beheaded all the men of Banu Nadir, taking the surviving women and children as slaves.[6][Quotation needed from source] Jews continued to live in the oasis for several more years until they were finally expelled by caliph Umar. The imposition of tribute upon the conquered Jews served as a precedent for provisions in the Islamic law requiring the exaction of tribute known as jizya from non-Muslims under Muslim rule, and confiscation of land belonging to non-Muslims into the collective property of the Muslim community.[4][7][8]



خيبر خيبر يا يهود, جيش محمّد سيعود

remember haibar jews, mhuamad army will return.

the jews in the area given the same triggers would have done the same thing for the first one

 

[S.A.M.]

I don't think anyone wants foreigners coming to create their nation in your country. Or collaborators who take their side for any reasons.

 

[Mr.Spock]

the jews in the area given the same triggers would have done the same thing for the first one

thats why we have 1.5 million arabs.

 

[S.A.M.]

And 10 million with no right of return

 

[Mr.Spock]

I don't think anyone wants foreigners coming to create their nation in your country. Or collaborators who take their side for any reasons.

1929

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with jobs and shelter
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

2008

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with water, electricity and food
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

 

[pjdude1219]

thats why we have 1.5 million arabs.

the triggers never happened i am just saying in the contexted of what got the arabs riled up if the rumors were false about muslims doing it to jews the jewish people would probably have acted the same way. it probably far more likely that a jewish version of said events would have been more extreme simply because the jewish people are an abused people.

 

[Mr.Spock]

And 10 million with no right of return

10 million? wasnt the number 5? like i said-all of israel.

 

[pjdude1219]

1929

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with jobs and shelter
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

2008

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with water, electricity and food
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

arabs typically used swords and spears

 

[Mr.Spock]

the triggers never happened i am just saying in the contexted of what got the arabs riled up if the rumors were false about muslims doing it to jews the jewish people would probably have acted the same way. it probably far more likely that a jewish version of said events would have been more extreme simply because the jewish people are an abused people.

really? there were jews and arabs living here. the ottomans were the rulers then the british. dont forget many arabs came gere to work.

the irony is that what actually created israel was the actions of the arabs themselves.

 

[Mr.Spock]

arabs typically used swords and spears

ho, bullocks. ill remember that the next time.

 

[pjdude1219]

really? there were jews and arabs living here. the ottomans were the rulers then the british. dont forget many arabs came gere to work.

the irony is that what actually created israel was the actions of the arabs themselves.

true

 

[Kadark]

1929

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with jobs and shelter
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

2008

arab a: you heard?
arab b: heard what?
arab a: the jews are supplying us with water, electricity and food
arab b: what??? jews??? here???
arab a: yes
arab b: damned them, ill go get my axe

The Arabs were doing fine until you bloodsucking leeches flooded their lands. It's amazing how you sugarcoat this brutal and illicit military occupation. The Arabs don't want your "water, electricity, and food"; if you still don't understand by now, they want you to relocate. You know, back to where you parasites came from.