New, Improved Obamacare Program Released On 35 Floppy Disks

[Write4U]

Actually we did. Back in the day when the marginal tax rate was 94% in the 50’s the middle class did get rich by taxing the rich and redistributing the wealth.

Before then the rich just took the profits without paying for labor or taxes at all. Remember "slavery" and "indentured service"

We maximize civil liberty by maximizing opportunity and competition (e.g. the 1950’s). Prosperity caused that little thing called the Baby Boom.

It is funny that way. Give a rich person money and they put it in the bank (preferably off-shore so they need not pay taxes); give a poor person money and they buy stuff so that jobs are created.
Which charlatan came up with the idea that rich people create jobs? What a con! They won't create a single job unless they can make a profit from it and if labor expenses get too high they "lay off" people or replace them with machines.
Poor people who spend every penny they earn are the real job creators. Just think volume! Anyone who wants to claim that 10% of all the people provide jobs for the 90% is a fool. It is 90% of the people (consumers) who create wealth for the rich 10% .

And if you do your history, you would know it wasn’t debt that caused them to fail; it was corruption which caused those regimes to fail. But you want to give a pass to corruption. That is just factually incorrect as has been repeatedly proven to you over the course of years.

Rent seeking is a problem. But the solution is not to empower the rent seekers as you seek to do. It is to fix the political system (e.g. election finance reform, ethical standards, well informed voters, etc.) that allows and foments rent seeking behaviors.

Rent-seeking, Wikipedia,
In economics (see public choice theory), rent-seeking is spending wealth on political lobbying to increase one's share of existing wealth without creating wealth. The effects of rent-seeking are reduced economic efficiency through poor allocation of resources, reduced wealth creation, lost government revenue, increased income inequality,[1] and national decline.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_seeking

Unfortunately for you, we have similar Obamacare health models (e.g. Switzerland) that have been in operation for some time. In the case of the Swiss, their healthcare system is very similar to Obamacare and is almost 20 years old. Their healthcare costs are half those of the pre-Obamacare US. Their healthcare outcomes are far better than their counterparts in the pre-Obamacare US. And they are much more efficient than the pre-Obamacare US healthcare system. So observed facts, just doesn’t ideological fantasies.

This is because the US is becoming Oligarchy

Oligarchy (from Greek ὀλιγαρχία (oligarkhía); from ὀλίγος (olígos), meaning "few", and ἄρχω (arkho), meaning "to rule or to command")[1][2][3] is a form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, education, corporate, or military control. Such states are often controlled by a few prominent families who typically pass their influence from one generation to the next, but inheritance is not a necessary condition for the application of this term.

Olygarchy, wiki,
Throughout history, oligarchies have often been tyrannical (relying on public obedience and/or oppression to exist) though others have been seen as relatively benign. Aristotle pioneered the use of the term as a synonym for rule by the rich,[4] for which the exact term is plutocracy. However, oligarchy is not always rule by the wealthy, as oligarchs can simply be a privileged group, and do not have to be connected by either wealth or by bloodlines - as in a monarchy.

 

[Michael]

It is funny that way. Give a rich person money and they put it in the bank (preferably off-shore so they need not pay taxes); give a poor person money and they buy stuff so that jobs are created.Which charlatan came up with the idea that rich people create jobs? What a con! They won't create a single job unless they can make a profit from it and if labor expenses get too high they "lay off" people or replace them with machines.

*GAAASP* how dare you replace digging by hand with the shovel! EVIL! Or the shovel with the cow. EVIL! Or the cow with the tractor. EVIL! Or the tractor with the robot. EVIL! No no no .... we all must return to digging holes by hand - THAT is the way forward men!

LOL

I also like the notion that 'putting money in a bank' is 'bad'. Yes, because banks don't make loans. No, they just sit on people's money and it magically *poof* turns into more money. Well, now that we have Central Planners at our Central Bank giving away 'free' money via QE-infinity to the Banks they own - this isn't that far off the mark. But that means any 'rich' person putting money into a bank is competing with the Federal Reserve and is in fact LOSING money by putting it in a bank, hence they're NOT. And equities are at all time highs while the real economy sinks to part-time lows.

Oh, I also like this notion that 'rich people don't start jobs'. AND? Some rich people open businesses, others don't. So what? But, since you think it's so easy, do yourself a favor and go create value. Do it. You think it's so easy to start a business - why don't you start one? Then you can deal with people like yourself.

AND what business is it of yours if someone decides to put THEIR money in a bank account in another country? What if they have family in Mexico and would like to put THEIR money in a local Mexican bank that will then provide the capital for the poor people to create their own local businesses? What business is that of YOU? None.

You supposedly care about the 'poor' but in reality couldn't give two shits about the poor. How do we know you couldn't give two shits about the poor? By your 'off shoring' comment. Guess what? People in 'poor' counties are human beings too. You may not like the fact they're willing to work for longer hours and for a lot less than you - well tough for you. Chinese bust their god-damn arses off, voluntarily working day and night making the shit you consume, like iPhones, and are slowly becoming a wealthy society for their productive efforts. They have that right. Where do YOU get off thinking YOU have any say in the least?

Poor people who spend every penny they earn are the real job creators. Just think volume! Anyone who wants to claim that 10% of all the people provide jobs for the 90% is a fool. It is 90% of the people (consumers) who create wealth for the rich 10% .

HA!!! HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!

Consuming is NOT creating wealth you dolt. It's consuming wealth other, productive people, created for you. But don't worry. Your economic role of CONSUMER is soon coming to an end. So, you had best hope you have more to offer society then your desire to eat from it like a pig in the trough, because it's fast becoming an unwanted 'service' in the world.

This is because the US is becoming Oligarchy

Yes, and this is exactly how we Amooorikkkans want it.

Less civil freedoms. More regulations.
Sound money is Evil. Fiat currency is Good.
Self ownership is immoral. State ownership/Labor-Tax is moral.

Down with Civil Liberty.
Up with State Fascism.


Government Schooling/Obedience training, while it may not provide society with functional literates or rational "Citizens", it is getting one thing right.
Keep praying to the State.


NOTE: Yes, no one creates a job unless profit can be made from it. Profit is the signal people WANT the good or service. If it's unprofitable, that means people do not want the service at the price point it's offered at. You can prove this to yourself. Go 'WORK' all day raking leaves in the woods. See how much 'profit' you can make from that 'job'. My guess is, not much. Government Schools have destroyed 5 generations of Americans. They're as useless as a bag of single sided door knobs. Well, I say good. Let's grow the State and sink this f*cker already. Give the Write4U's what they want. The ability to do their 'jobs' as 'consumers'. Take from the evil producers and give to the valiant consumers. Like locus across a wheat field, by good God Damn they'll consume this country to prosperity! Onward Consuming Solder! EEEEAAAT!!!

 

[joepistole]

*GAAASP* how dare you replace digging by hand with the shovel! EVIL! Or the shovel with the cow. EVIL! Or the cow with the tractor. EVIL! Or the tractor with the robot. EVIL! No no no .... we all must return to digging holes by hand - THAT is the way forward men!

LOL

I also like the notion that 'putting money in a bank' is 'bad'. Yes, because banks don't make loans. No, they just sit on people's money and it magically *poof* turns into more money. Well, now that we have Central Planners at our Central Bank giving away 'free' money via QE-infinity to the Banks they own - this isn't that far off the mark. But that means any 'rich' person putting money into a bank is competing with the Federal Reserve and is in fact LOSING money by putting it in a bank, hence they're NOT. And equities are at all time highs while the real economy sinks to part-time lows.

Oh, I also like this notion that 'rich people don't start jobs'. AND? Some rich people open businesses, others don't. So what? But, since you think it's so easy, do yourself a favor and go create value. Do it. You think it's so easy to start a business - why don't you start one? Then you can deal with people like yourself.

AND what business is it of yours if someone decides to put THEIR money in a bank account in another country? What if they have family in Mexico and would like to put THEIR money in a local Mexican bank that will then provide the capital for the poor people to create their own local businesses? What business is that of YOU? None.

You supposedly care about the 'poor' but in reality couldn't give two shits about the poor. How do we know you couldn't give two shits about the poor? By your 'off shoring' comment. Guess what? People in 'poor' counties are human beings too. You may not like the fact they're willing to work for longer hours and for a lot less than you - well tough for you. Chinese bust their god-damn arses off, voluntarily working day and night making the shit you consume, like iPhones, and are slowly becoming a wealthy society for their productive efforts. They have that right. Where do YOU get off thinking YOU have any say in the least?

HA!!! HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!

Consuming is NOT creating wealth you dolt. It's consuming wealth other, productive people, created for you. But don't worry. Your economic role of CONSUMER is soon coming to an end. So, you had best hope you have more to offer society then your desire to eat from it like a pig in the trough, because it's fast becoming an unwanted 'service' in the world.

Yes, and this is exactly how we Amooorikkkans want it.

Less civil freedoms. More regulations.
Sound money is Evil. Fiat currency is Good.
Self ownership is immoral. State ownership/Labor-Tax is moral.

Down with Civil Liberty.
Up with State Fascism.


Government Schooling/Obedience training, while it may not provide society with functional literates or rational "Citizens", it is getting one thing right.
Keep praying to the State.


NOTE: Yes, no one creates a job unless profit can be made from it. Profit is the signal people WANT the good or service. If it's unprofitable, that means people do not want the service at the price point it's offered at. You can prove this to yourself. Go 'WORK' all day raking leaves in the woods. See how much 'profit' you can make from that 'job'. My guess is, not much. Government Schools have destroyed 5 generations of Americans. They're as useless as a bag of single sided door knobs. Well, I say good. Let's grow the State and sink this f*cker already. Give the Write4U's what they want. The ability to do their 'jobs' as 'consumers'. Take from the evil producers and give to the valiant consumers. Like locus across a wheat field, by good God Damn they'll consume this country to prosperity! Onward Consuming Solder! EEEEAAAT!!!

Except none of your notions and allegations are true. And rich men sitting on wealth are not big job creators. And they don't invest in businesses for which there is no demand for their product or services. There would be no production if there were no demand for the product. Demand (consumption) is the foundation upon which the economy is built. It's pretty obvious you are entirely clueless Michael.

 

[Michael]

Except none of your notions and allegations are true. And rich men sitting on wealth are not big job creators. And they don't invest in businesses for which there is no demand for their product or services. There would be no production if there were no demand for the product. Demand (consumption) is the foundation upon which the economy is built. It's pretty obvious you are entirely clueless Michael.

You are BABBLING again Joe.

Rich people do NOT 'sit' on their wealth. No one 'rich' puts their fiat toilet paper under their bed Joe. If they happen to buy a stock - that's an investment. If they put their money in a bank - they don't do so interest free. The bank has to pay them - and the role of a properly functioning bank is investing those savings into society. *GASP* A profit made by the bank, means their loans were good/economical. They gave the right loans, to the right people, who used those loans to invest in and create the right kinds of businesses. Thus, the bank is able to pay interest on the 'loan' they took out from the person's who lent them their money as "savings". But, of course, the banks gave out a bunch of bad loans didn't they. This worked out for a few Slum-Lords, but the rest of society was pretty much f*cked. And when the Banks went bust, the State bailed them, the rich, and the slum-lords out by selling the future productive labor of the unborn.

So, the rich and the despised got to have their cake and eat it too.

Which is exactly how Amoorikkkans like it.

As for consumption - it's an aspect of a prosperous PRODUCTIVE economy. Consuming isn't what results in a society becoming prosperous. How idiotic is that? Producing leads to prosperity. You're like a dolt who blames the wet pavement for the rain because the two happen to occur simultaneously. But don't worry, the States' going to need to tax 'the rich' to pay for the 'consumption' of the Write4's of the world. See, that's their 'Job' - 'Consumers' with a capital "C". Eating is what they do. And get this, there's ALWAYS someone richer than you and you're richer than someone else. Someone who lives in house, is richer than someone who lives in their car. And they in turn? They're richer than someone who lives in a shelter. And they're richer than someone who lives on the street.

As your Central Planning Hero's continue to destroy the economy - try to keep that in mind. Because the State only competently accomplishes one thing Joe: Rape. And it does that quite well.


100 years of Central Banking has never looked better - for the top 0.01%. Just keep paying your Labor Tax like a good little Amoorikkkan. The rich has got to do their jobs - as consumers.

 

[iceaura]

Rich people do NOT 'sit' on their wealth.

Sure they do. Right now there are huge piles of cash sitting in bonds and gold and real estate and very low interest but safe repositories of one kind or another, not being invested because there are no good opportunities.

You may recall your earlier posting where you claimed this was a threat - that when all this cash came flooding back to the US markets, inflation would go through the roof.

Consuming isn't what results in a society becoming prosperous. How idiotic is that? Producing leads to prosperity.

Overproduction, sudden drops in demand for reasons of panic or disaster or economic dislocation, and inequality in income distribution, can, has, and will lead to economic collapse.

 

[joepistole]

BABBLING again Joe.

Ad hominem isn’t rational argument much less factual. I am sure you wish I were babbling.

Rich people do NOT 'sit' on their wealth. No one 'rich' puts their fiat toilet paper under their bed Joe. If they happen to buy a stock - that's an investment. If they put their money in a bank - they don't do so interest free. The bank has to pay them - and the role of a properly functioning bank is investing those savings into society. *GASP* A profit made by the bank, means their loans were good/economical. They gave the right loans, to the right people, who used those loans to invest in and create the right kinds of businesses. Thus, the bank is able to pay interest on the 'loan' they took out from the person's who lent them their money as "savings". But, of course, the banks gave out a bunch of bad loans didn't they. This worked out for a few Slum-Lords, but the rest of society was pretty much f*cked. And when the Banks went bust, the State bailed them, the rich, and the slum-lords out by selling the future productive labor of the unborn.

LOL, your ignorance is showing again Michael. Yeah, wealthy people do put their money into banks. That is why we have negative real interest rates. You were complaining just the other about the ECB implementing a negative interest rate.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...ard-is-bigger-than-the-gdp-of-germany/260006/

https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2316

And none of that changes the fact that wealth people, or anyone with a rational brain for that matter, do not invest in businesses for which there is no DEMAND for their product or service. It’s called stupidity. They don’t hire people to dig holes and fill them up. And that is one reason why you will never be a wealthy person. Unfortunately you are destined to be a perpetually angry man who never understands the real source of his woes is not some fictional "central planner" but himself.

So, the rich and the despised got to have their cake and eat it too.

So why are you carrying their water?

Which is exactly how Amoorikkkans like it.

As for consumption - it's an aspect of a prosperous PRODUCTIVE economy. Consuming isn't what results in a society becoming prosperous. How idiotic is that? Producing leads to prosperity. You're like a dolt who blames the wet pavement for the rain because the two happen to occur simultaneously. But don't worry, the States' going to need to tax 'the rich' to pay for the 'consumption' of the Write4's of the world. See, that's their 'Job' - 'Consumers' with a capital "C". Eating is what they do. And get this, there's ALWAYS someone richer than you and you're richer than someone else. Someone who lives in house, is richer than someone who lives in their car. And they in turn? They're richer than someone who lives in a shelter. And they're richer than someone who lives on the street.

LOL, and that my friend is why you will never be wealthy, building businesses for which there is no demand is a direct road to bankruptcy. The basis for every business is a demand for the services or product produced by that business. If there is no demand, there is no business. It is just that simple, it is Business 101.

As your Central Planning Hero's continue to destroy the economy - try to keep that in mind. Because the State only competently accomplishes one thing Joe: Rape. And it does that quite well.

Except, the only “central planning” going on here is in your head, along with those rape fantasies.

100 years of Central Banking has never looked better - for the top 0.01%. Just keep paying your Labor Tax like a good little Amoorikkkan. The rich has got to do their jobs - as consumers.

Except we don’t have central planners, you continue to misuse words…invent meanings as needed in order to justify your bizarre and debunked ideological notions. As I have said many times before, the US does have a problem with income and wealth inequality. But the problem is not solved by giving all the power and all the keys to the kingdom to those who finance your ideology (i.e. Koch brothers). It is solved by changing the way elect our officials (e.g. publically financed elections and better informed voters) and the standards to which we hold those officials while they serve in office.

 

[Michael]

Sure they do. Right now there are huge piles of cash sitting in bonds and gold and real estate and very low interest but safe repositories of one kind or another, not being invested because there are no good opportunities.

When one person buys gold for cash, or buys real estate, then the cash is now in the hands of someone else. It's not as if the 'cash' has vanished. Thus, their investment, gave someone else capital to invest.

 

[Michael]

WSJ: Territories Free of ObamaCare

On no legal basis, all 4.5 million residents of the five U.S. territories were quietly released from ObamaCare. Where does everybody else apply?

The original House and Senate bills that became the Affordable Care Act included funding for insurance exchanges in these territories, as President Obama promised when as a Senator he campaigned in Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and other 2008 Democratic primaries. But the $14.5 billion in subsidies for the territories were dumped in 2010 as ballast when Democrats needed to claim the law reduced the deficit.

As a consolation, Democrats opened several public-health programs to the territories and bestowed most of ObamaCare's insurance regulations, which liberals euphemize as "consumer protections," such as requiring insurers to accept all comers and charge the same premiums regardless of patient health. "After a careful review of the law," said Health and Human Services in a 2012 letter, HHS granted the territories' request to apply these rules "to the maximum extent permitted by law."

These uneconomic mandates promptly caused insurance rates to soar and many insurers to flee the territorial markets. You can't buy any policy at any price in the Mariana Islands. So the territories have spent the last two years beseeching HHS for a regulatory exemption.

As recently as last year, HHS instructed the territories that they "have enjoyed the benefits of the applicable consumer protections" and HHS "has no legal authority to exclude the territories" from ObamaCare. HHS said the law adopted an explicit definition of "state" that includes the territories for the purpose of the mandates and the public-health programs, and another explicit definition that excludes the territories for the purpose of the subsidies. Thus there is "no statutory authority . . . to selectively exempt the territories from certain provisions, unless specified by law."

Laws are made by Congress, but all of a sudden last week HHS discovered new powers after "a careful review of this situation and the relevant statutory language." For simplicity's sake, the territories will now be governed by the "state" definition that excludes the territories for both the subsidies and now the mandates too. But the old definition will still apply for the public-health spending, so the territories will get their selective exemption after all.

The White House seems to have an elastic definition of states. In the Halbig case in which a decision is expected any day from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, Mr. Obama's lawyers say the phrase "the 50 states" includes the federal government. But most elastic is its definition of statutes, which apparently mean whatever Mr. Obama says they mean at any given moment. His new dispensation is great for the territories, but awful for the Constitution and rule of law.

What a farce Amoorikkka is turning out to be.

 

[Michael]

WSJ: Upholding ObamaCare—as Written

President Obama's penchant for treating laws as unlimited grants of power to his Administration is catching up with him. The irony is that on Tuesday the nation's second highest court ruled that ObamaCare is defined by what Congress enacted, not how his Administration has rewritten it.

Good thing the State allows private groups of Citizens to rent-seek the healthcare markets.

The result?
As modern technology improves healthcare, costs go UP. Not down - UP. Oh, and the outcome? Now being killed off BY your healthcare provider, is the #3 reason you will die.

Healthcare is a perfect example of the Progressive State. Exactly the opposite of everything it claimed.

Oh, and as a little added bonus, thanks to rent-seeking, millions and millions and millions of students are taking on hundreds of billions of dollars in loans, wasting entire lifetimes studying and test-taking, all so that they can flip burgers because they're no accepted into the tightly 'regulated' markets via the limited number of medical school. It's so ridiculous, many students are flying over to Australia, the Philippians, even China, buying an MD and flying back to practice medicine in the USSA where they can turn a nice profit. The rest just take their 'Biology' degree and hope to the Gods they get a "livable wage' at their local fast-food restaurant or china-store. Not only destroying their productive capacity - but also wasting their entire lives in the process.

Progressive Socialism - destroying one society at a time.

 

[joepistole]

WSJ: Upholding ObamaCare—as Written



Good thing the State allows private groups of Citizens to rent-seek the healthcare markets.

The result?
As modern technology improves healthcare, costs go UP. Not down - UP. Oh, and the outcome? Now being killed off BY your healthcare provider, is the #3 reason you will die.

Healthcare is a perfect example of the Progressive State. Exactly the opposite of everything it claimed.

Oh, and as a little added bonus, thanks to rent-seeking, millions and millions and millions of students are taking on hundreds of billions of dollars in loans, wasting entire lifetimes studying and test-taking, all so that they can flip burgers because they're no accepted into the tightly 'regulated' markets via the limited number of medical school. It's so ridiculous, many students are flying over to Australia, the Philippians, even China, buying an MD and flying back to practice medicine in the USSA where they can turn a nice profit. The rest just take their 'Biology' degree and hope to the Gods they get a "livable wage' at their local fast-food restaurant or china-store. Not only destroying their productive capacity - but also wasting their entire lives in the process.

Progressive Socialism - destroying one society at a time.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Maybe one day, if you work real hard and we'll, you might be able to make a cogent and truthful post.

 

[Michael]

WaPo: Did the Supreme Court already tip its hand on Obamacare subsidies?

After Tuesday's split rulings on the legality of Obamacare subsidies in federal-run exchanges, it's hard not to wonder what would happen if these challenges actually did reach the Supreme Court.

As I wrote yesterday, there's still a chance that the entire D.C. Circuit overturns yesterday's 2-1 decision, in which the court found the IRS isn't authorized to administer premium subsidies in the 36 states declining to set up their own insurance exchanges. If that decision gets overturned, then you'd have the D.C. Circuit in agreement with the 4th Circuit in Virginia — that federal exchanges can offer subsidies just like the state-run exchanges. Having similar rulings in the appellate courts could make it more likely that the Supreme Court wouldn't take up these challenges.

It still could, though, and trying to predict how the court will act — especially when it comes to Obamacare —could be tricky. How many people thought that Chief Justice John Roberts two years ago would split with the court's conservative wing to uphold the individual mandate as a taxing power? And how many thought that two liberal justices would side with conservatives to rule against the mandatory Medicaid expansion, which had been thought of Obamacare opponents' weakest argument?

The USA started with the smallest set of laws written in plain, natural language, and a government that was LIMITED by the constitution. No labor tax. No IRS. No central bank. The most contact most Americans had with the Federal government was their local USPO. That was it.

Now we live in a hyper-regulated State, have more laws than any other nation (in the history of the human race) with hundreds of millions, billions, of lines added each year, where we must pay the State a 'transaction tax' in order to work, where we must seek the State's blessing via it's Privately run "Licencing" / permission to work and trade with other so-called *free* adults. A State that is now collecting information on each and every one of us - with the goal of collecting ALL our private personal communications. A State that starts phony wars in Vietnam where it dropped chemical napalm roasting women and children alive or now in Iraq with it's lies of "WMD" it murders women and children (See Obama: "I'm really good at killing people") with radioactive dust. We have the largest prison population per population - in the history of the world. Many of whom live in rape-cages simply for smoking a weed (one the Framer's of the Constitution themselves grew)! The State determines who can legally marry. The State wastes more limited energy supplies compared with any nation or corporation in the history of the world. The Federal Government is the largest polluter in the history of the world.


The Department of Education had the third largest budget of ANY agency in the entire world. The first was the US Federal Government. The second was the Japanese Government. Next came the US Department of Education. To this day it still wastes nearly $100 BILLION each and every year. And just like with Healthcare, the State has ruined education. One in every five Americans are functionally illiterate. Many with Government School diplomas.


Finance and Healthcare and the two most regulated industries in America. Finance is a joke, where the poor are forced to bail out the richest 0.01%. Healthcare itself is your #3 reason to die and thanks to rent-seeking, is ridiculously expensive. This is the end result of Force. Asking the State to 'help' is like asking an ax murdering child molester to babysit your kids. The State ONLY delineates itself from the rest of society by one, and only ONE, difference: The legal obligation to initiate FORCE against innocent people. That'ts what it does. That's what it IS. Immoral by it's very existence. Which is why it was LIMITED.

- It wages "War on Poverty" - we end up with Public Ghetto Slums.
- It wages "War on Drugs" - we end up with Public/Private Fascist prisons filled with non-violent "Citizens" OF the State for the crime of deciding what they want to do with their own bodies - as adults.
- It wages "War on Illiteracy" - we end up with Government Schools that graduate functional illiterates and an unholy Bureaucracy that costs us almost $100 BILLION a year. This f*cked up system will determine what your child learns AND decide whether they're allowed to enter the State's rent-seeking markets. In effect, it has total control over your child's entire lives. And your's as well.
- It wages "War on Terrorism" - we end up with women and children raped and murdered by our solders, entire cities coated in radioactive dust, a POTUS who thinks he's "really good at killing people" (sociopath) and the NSA spying on each and every citizen.


But, dont' worry, we're getting more State. Not less.
More.
Much more.
We're also getting more ObamaCare - not less. More.
And just wait for the Public Healthcare Unions and their "Quotas" (someone's got to hire all those Government Schooled functional illiterates).


#3 reason you will die in the USSA: Healthcare itself - try to remember that when you find yourself in a Government Hospital.

 

[joepistole]

WaPo: Did the Supreme Court already tip its hand on Obamacare subsidies?

The USA started with the smallest set of laws written in plain, natural language, and a government that was LIMITED by the constitution. No labor tax. No IRS. No central bank. The most contact most Americans had with the Federal government was their local USPO. That was it.

Now we live in a hyper-regulated State, have more laws than any other nation (in the history of the human race) with hundreds of millions, billions, of lines added each year, where we must pay the State a 'transaction tax' in order to work, where we must seek the State's blessing via it's Privately run "Licencing" / permission to work and trade with other so-called *free* adults. A State that is now collecting information on each and every one of us - with the goal of collecting ALL our private personal communications. A State that starts phony wars in Vietnam where it dropped chemical napalm roasting women and children alive or now in Iraq with it's lies of "WMD" it murders women and children (See Obama: "I'm really good at killing people") with radioactive dust. We have the largest prison population per population - in the history of the world. Many of whom live in rape-cages simply for smoking a weed (one the Framer's of the Constitution themselves grew)! The State determines who can legally marry. The State wastes more limited energy supplies compared with any nation or corporation in the history of the world. The Federal Government is the largest polluter in the history of the world.


The Department of Education had the third largest budget of ANY agency in the entire world. The first was the US Federal Government. The second was the Japanese Government. Next came the US Department of Education. To this day it still wastes nearly $100 BILLION each and every year. And just like with Healthcare, the State has ruined education. One in every five Americans are functionally illiterate. Many with Government School diplomas.


Finance and Healthcare and the two most regulated industries in America. Finance is a joke, where the poor are forced to bail out the richest 0.01%. Healthcare itself is your #3 reason to die and thanks to rent-seeking, is ridiculously expensive. This is the end result of Force. Asking the State to 'help' is like asking an ax murdering child molester to babysit your kids. The State ONLY delineates itself from the rest of society by one, and only ONE, difference: The legal obligation to initiate FORCE against innocent people. That'ts what it does. That's what it IS. Immoral by it's very existence. Which is why it was LIMITED.

- It wages "War on Poverty" - we end up with Public Ghetto Slums.
- It wages "War on Drugs" - we end up with Public/Private Fascist prisons filled with non-violent "Citizens" OF the State for the crime of deciding what they want to do with their own bodies - as adults.
- It wages "War on Illiteracy" - we end up with Government Schools that graduate functional illiterates and an unholy Bureaucracy that costs us almost $100 BILLION a year. This f*cked up system will determine what your child learns AND decide whether they're allowed to enter the State's rent-seeking markets. In effect, it has total control over your child's entire lives. And your's as well.
- It wages "War on Terrorism" - we end up with women and children raped and murdered by our solders, entire cities coated in radioactive dust, a POTUS who thinks he's "really good at killing people" (sociopath) and the NSA spying on each and every citizen.


But, dont' worry, we're getting more State. Not less.
More.
Much more.
We're also getting more ObamaCare - not less. More.
And just wait for the Public Healthcare Unions and their "Quotas" (someone's got to hire all those Government Schooled functional illiterates).


#3 reason you will die in the USSA: Healthcare itself - try to remember that when you find yourself in a Government Hospital.

Except almost all of that demagoguery isn't even close to being true. It must be a real bitch to have reality keep knocking down your ideological rants.

 

[Michael]

Except almost all of that demagoguery isn't even close to being true. It must be a real bitch to have reality keep knocking down your ideological rants.

and we have more gobbledygook from Joe.

FACT: #3 reason you will die in the USSA is seeking healthcare / diseasecare from our hyper-regulated Fascistic healthcare itself. This means, you will go into the hospital, and you will be killed BY your healthcare. IOWs, you would have been better off staying at home with a knife, iPhone, youtube, some aspirin and DIY. Or at worse - just as worse off, dead.


ALL the bullshit you hear about why we 'need' lots and lots and lots and many more healthcare regulations to keep you 'safe' from some buy who once, one time, in the 1800s pulled a tooth without knowing what he was doing and killed someone is just that - BULLSHIT. The ONLY reason healthcare is hyper-regulated is to pump up costs in a massive regulatory market capture fraud. Thanks to Rx regulations, we have millions and millions of families destroyed and the largest prison population IN HISTORY. And now, thanks to ObamaCare, Big Insurance is going to get it's big pay off.


Don't blame the Free-Market for over-priced dieasecare, blame Progressive Socialists.

 

[Michael]

WaPo: Federal undercover investigation signs up fake applicants for ACA coverage, subsidies

According to testimony to be delivered before a House Ways and Means subcommittee, undercover GAO investigators tried to obtain health plans for a dozen fictitious applicants online or by phone, using invalid or missing Social Security numbers or inaccurate citizenship information.

All but one of the fake applicants ended up getting subsidized coverage — and have kept it. In one instance, an application was denied but then approved on a second try. In six other attempts to sign up fake applicants via in-person assisters, just one assister accurately told an investigator that the applicant’s income was too high for a subsidy.

The GAO’s account of fictitious applicants obtaining subsidized coverage goes beyond a related problem that surfaced this spring and that the investigators also cited: The government may be paying incorrect insurance subsidies to a significant share of the 5.4 million Americans who signed up for health plans for this year through the federal marketplace.

Norther Europe? Switzerland?
Ummmm, no, try more like Greece.


Welcome to the USSA

 

[Michael]

Washington Examiner: Health insurance premiums up 39% to 56% under Obamacare, reach $2,604 a month in California

According to a cost report from eHealthInsurance, a nationwide online private insurance exchange, families are paying an average of $663 a month and singles $274 a month, far more than before Obamacare kicked in. What's more, to save money, most buyers are choosing the lowest level of coverage, the so-called "bronze" plans. The firm provided the costs to Secrets through their new online price index, which gives the averages of what people are paying for insurance sold through their system. In California, for example, some families are paying a high of $2,604 a month and in New York, $1,845.

Hey guess what Millenials? Your Grand-pappy's, they partied hard in the 60s (that was back when mother's stayed home and looked after them - their's did), got subsidized University in the 70-80s (which you and you children will pay for), filpped houses in the 90s (which is why you're a renter and they're an owner), got bailed out after wrecking the economy in the early 2000s (which you and you children will pay for), used their Unions to ensure they took it all (destroying once proud American industry [see: Detroit]) and are now shoveling their healthcare costs onto you.

They're going to suck you f*cking dry. They couldn't give two flying shits that one of you can't afford to stay home (in one you own) and raise a family (if you are lucky enough to even have children - probably have to leave their 'raising' to a day supervision factory). Nope. That's not the way they roll. They ARE the consumer generation. Hyper-regulated fast-food and chain-stores were invented by them for them. Take a good long look at Detroit, that's what they're leaving for you. Desolation.

Or, you can just enjoy paying for their Medical "Care" while tying to raise a family of 3 on four incomes (out of a rental unit).


OR, you may consider a Progressive age Tax. You know, for the Social Good. Let them pay for their own. Does anyone really need to own more than one home, when so many of their own are living out of cardboard boxes? They bailed out the Banks on your dime. The equities they own are at all time unrealistic highs. Simple. Tax them until their dream of 'redistribution' is a reality - for them. It's only fair. One could say, social justice.

 

[joepistole]

Washington Examiner: Health insurance premiums up 39% to 56% under Obamacare, reach $2,604 a month in California

Hey guess what Millenials? Your Grand-pappy's, they partied hard in the 60s (that was back when mother's stayed home and looked after them - their's did), got subsidized University in the 70-80s (which you and you children will pay for), filpped houses in the 90s (which is why you're a renter and they're an owner), got bailed out after wrecking the economy in the early 2000s (which you and you children will pay for) and are now shoveling their healthcare costs onto you.

They're going to suck you f*cking dry. They couldn't give two flying shits that you can't afford to stay home (one you own) and raise a family (if you are lucky enough to have children, probably have to leave their 'raising' to a day supervision factory). Nope. That's not the way they roll. They ARE the consumer generation. Hyper-regulated fast-food and chain-stores were invented by them for them. Take a good long look at Detroit, that's what they're leaving for you.

Enjoy paying for their Medical "Care" while tying to raise a family on 4 incomes out of a rental unit.


OR, you may consider a Progressive age Tax. You know, for the Social Good. Let them pay for their own. Does anyone really need to own more than one home, when so many of their own are living out of cardboard boxes? They bailed out the Banks on your dime. The equities they own are at all time unrealistic highs. Simple. Tax them until their dream of 'redistribution' is a reality - for them. It's only fair. One could say, social justice.

How about using credible sources instead of right wing nut job sources who are known for playing fast and loose (i.e. making stuff up) with the truth?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/california-health-insurance-premiums_n_3328110.html

 

[joepistole]

WaPo: Federal undercover investigation signs up fake applicants for ACA coverage, subsidies



Norther Europe? Switzerland?
Ummmm, no, try more like Greece.


Welcome to the USSA

How many people do you think want to buy two, three or four health insurance policies for themselves?

 

[joepistole]

and we have more gobbledygook from Joe.

FACT: #3 reason you will die in the USSA is seeking healthcare / diseasecare from our hyper-regulated Fascistic healthcare itself. This means, you will go into the hospital, and you will be killed BY your healthcare. IOWs, you would have been better off staying at home with a knife, iPhone, youtube, some aspirin and DIY. Or at worse - just as worse off, dead.


ALL the bullshit you hear about why we 'need' lots and lots and lots and many more healthcare regulations to keep you 'safe' from some buy who once, one time, in the 1800s pulled a tooth without knowing what he was doing and killed someone is just that - BULLSHIT. The ONLY reason healthcare is hyper-regulated is to pump up costs in a massive regulatory market capture fraud. Thanks to Rx regulations, we have millions and millions of families destroyed and the largest prison population IN HISTORY. And now, thanks to ObamaCare, Big Insurance is going to get it's big pay off.


Don't blame the Free-Market for over-priced dieasecare, blame Progressive Socialists.

What does US healthcare have to do with prison populations? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Just because you think access to the US healthcare system is lethal, it doesn't mean it is true. You have a lot of beliefs which are demonstrably untrue. The fact is the pre-Obamacare US healthcare system was incredibly inefficient and increasingly ineffective. Obamacare emulates more successful healthcare systems. And here is the rub, in all the world you can not point to a single successful unregulated healthcare system. So you have to resort to all sorts of illogical arguments (e.g. ad hominem) and falsifications in order to keep your ideology alive.

 

[Michael]

What does US healthcare have to do with prison populations? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Just because you think access to the US healthcare system is lethal, it doesn't mean it is true. You have a lot of beliefs which are demonstrably untrue. The fact is the pre-Obamacare US healthcare system was incredibly inefficient and increasingly ineffective. Obamacare emulates more successful healthcare systems. And here is the rub, in all the world you can not point to a single successful unregulated healthcare system. So you have to resort to all sorts of illogical arguments (e.g. ad hominem) and falsifications in order to keep your ideology alive.

How many times do we have to go over this. It doesn't matter if there are no other 'advanced' nations that have unregulated healthcare. At one time there were no other 'advanced' societies that didn't practice human slavery. At one time there were no other 'advanced' societies that allowed women to vote. At one time there were no other 'advanced' societies that didn't have a majority of people worshiping a sky daddy of some sort. At one time everyone lived under a King and an aristocracy.

In short, saying everyone else is jumping from a bridge, therefor we should too, isn't a logical argument. It's not even an argument. It's a fallacy.

Lastly, the USSA is not Japan, it is not Northern Europe. A much closer example is Greece. If you want to make a comparison, Greece is the one that closest matched the mentality of the average Amoorikkkan.


AND the notion the Government is MORE efficient and LESS wasteful is a f*cking joke! What fricken planet do you live on? It certainly isn't earth. The US Government is the LEAST efficient and the MOST wasteful and worse still - is RIPE with corruption. Which is why O-blah-ma gave his college buddy a multimillion dollar contract to produce the f*cked website we still have.

 

[Michael]

Forbes: Medical errors now claim the spot as the third leading cause of death in the United States

In 1999, Americans learned that 98,000 people were dying every year from preventable errors in hospitals. That came from a widely touted analysis by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) called To Err Is Human. This was the “Silent Spring” of the health care world, grabbing headlines for revealing a serious and deadly problem that required policy and action.

As it turns out, those were the good old days. According to a new study just out from the prestigious Journal of Patient Safety, four times as many people die from preventable medical errors than we thought, as many as 440,000 a year. Back in the old days, the IOM experts had very little concrete information to use in estimating the extent of killer errors in hospitals. But with innovations in research techniques led by Dr. David Classen, the Institute for Healthcare Improvement and others, we now have more tools to tell us where the bodies are buried.

With these latest revelations, medical errors now claim the spot as the third leading cause of death in the United States, dwarfing auto accidents, diabetes and everything else besides Cancer and heart disease. Harvard’s Dr. Lucian Leape, the father of the patient safety movement and one of the experts behind the original IOM report, says the numbers in this new study should supplant the IOM estimates from 1999. That means hospitals are killing off the equivalent of the entire population of Atlanta one year, Miami the next, then moving to Oakland, and on and on.

These people are not dying from the illnesses that caused them to seek hospital care in the first place. They are dying from mishaps that hospitals could have prevented. What do these errors look like? The sponge left inside the surgical patient, prompting weeks of mysterious, agonizing abdominal pain before the infection overcomes bodily functions. The medication injected into a baby’s IV at a dose calculated for a 200 pound man. The excruciating infection from contaminated equipment used at the bedside. Sadly, over a thousand people a day are dying from these kinds of mistakes.

As a comparison, Japan followed by Sweden were ranked the SAFEST place to have healthcare. We are not them, they are not us. It's that simple. In Japan, they have a fat-tax. Everyone has to weigh a certain amount, they are measured by tape around the waste, if they miss the mark - they pay the FAT tax. 99.99% of Americans would be taxed on day one.

If we want cheap high quality healthcare, then we need to deregulate disease-care, eliminate Rx and allow for free-markets to bring in the quality and low cost needed to supply Amoorikkkans with proper healthcare. But, we're not going to do that any time too soon because Amoorikkkans are too scared, functionally illiterate and like to be told what to do and how to do it. They're the "Pragmatic" chattel that "Pragmatically" does what their Political Masters / Farmers tell them. So, expect to pay more, receive less and hear a lot of mooing around the USSA Tax-Ranch. I'd also expect a cull soon enough, followed by Soylent Green on offer at the chain-stores soon enough. The State's War on Healthcare will see to that.