My first out of body experience

Guru said:
Hi Q,
If you have more than one liners to refute then I will be interested in indulging a decent conversation with you. Have you read about Quantum physics and string theory. They have a concept which is called various dimensions how do you explain that ?
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I explain that as mathematical concepts that have yet to be experimentally verified. So what? That has absolutely nothing to do with your empty claims. You are merely presenting a strawman argument.

But, since you brought up those subjects, you must be quite able to show us exactly how quantum physics and string theory support your claims. Please show us all the math, too. Thanks for your indulgence.
 
Guru said:
Hi Dywyddyr

By Various dimensions I mean the String theory proposes that there are more dimensions than the 3 dimension world we live in ..it might range from 6 to 24 dimensions. ..I am sure you will get a comment from Q to get a Quantum Physics 101.
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Not really, I expect Dywyddyr also sees you as the loony tune you are presenting yourself to be.

It is very easy to write off some ideas if you don't wish to research on the same.
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Then, show us your research into quantum physics and your claims. Where is it?
 
guru said:
They have a concept which is called various dimensions how do you explain that ?
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i'll give it a shot....the first dimension is for the money, the second for the show, third to get ready.......wait...wait...wait.... fourth to go man go!

explaining the higher dimensions would require me to be sexually explicit so........no
 
Hi Q / Dywyddyr,
Well let us wait for the LHC to give results on dimensions which will then be proven fact. I am sure more than 20 "Looney Toon" governments spending over 9 Billion Dollars to investigate Higgs Boson and other dimensions which are mathematically proven have their laws of physics in order. I will post the details once I get the same from Fermi lab.

What I am claiming is that we need to think out of our 3 dimension box - when so many people have had NDEs and the reincarnations have been extensively 'documented" by people like Brian Weiss there is bound to be an explanation to the existence of consciousness outside our bodies. what I am suggesting is that there may be a possibility of non locality. The reason why we are discussing this here is that it is not proven and there are people who believe in possibilities just like believers or non believers in String theory.

Hi Gustav - good attempt at humor
 
S.A.M. said:
Why? What makes you suppose that it would require violating physical laws?
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Because that's what would be required for an out of body experience.

What are the physical laws governing consciousness?
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Doesn't matter, what's most important is that it can't leave your body and go traveling around.
 
Guru said:
Hi Q / Dywyddyr,
Well let us wait for the LHC to give results on dimensions which will then be proven fact. I am sure more than 20 "Looney Toon" governments spending over 9 Billion Dollars to investigate Higgs Boson and other dimensions which are mathematically proven have their laws of physics in order. I will post the details once I get the same from Fermi lab.
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And, those results will support your nonsense?

there is bound to be an explanation to the existence of consciousness outside our bodies.
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Yes, it's all in your imagination.
 
(Q) said:
Because that's what would be required for an out of body experience.
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Why? Aren't there any examples in physics of mind over matter?

Does energy have matter? Doesn't it obey the laws of physics? Can't it leave the body, travel around and return?

Don't we store it?

Doesn't matter, what's most important is that it can't leave your body and go traveling around.
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How do you know that?
 
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Guru said:
Hi Q / Dywyddyr,
Well let us wait for the LHC to give results on dimensions which will then be proven fact.
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You are still missing the point. I am NOT disputing the existence of these extra dimensions, I am questioning YOUR understanding of what a dimension is.
I.e. a dimension is not an alternative "reality".

I will post the details once I get the same from Fermi lab.
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I'm more likely to get them before you do. I've had numerous nights at the bar discussing physics with the guy who was head of the Brit contingent at CERN.

What I am claiming is that we need to think out of our 3 dimension box
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No, first of all you have to understand the box itself.

when so many people have had NDEs
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When so many people have claimed they have had NDEs.

and the reincarnations have been extensively 'documented" by people like Brian Weiss there is bound to be an explanation to the existence of consciousness outside our bodies.
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Bound to be? Or maybe it could be explained if we knew more about how the human mind works. You seem to be deciding what the explanation "really" is before you have sufficient data.
 
S.A.M. said:
Why? Aren't there any examples in physics of mind over matter?

Does energy have matter? Doesn't it obey the laws of physics? Can't it leave the body, travel around and return?
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A misunderstanding of physics on your part equates to speculation.

How do you know that?
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It seems we continue to confirm that you never read others posts. Violation of physical laws? Duh.
 
S.A.M. said:
Make that criticism constructive and we'll both learn something.
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I know for a fact you aren't interested in learning anything, Sam. That's why you embrace and hold irrational beliefs. I have learned why out of body experiences are pure bunk, but you have not and probably never will. :)
 
I have no opinion on OOB experiences. I'm merely exploring the possibility that the explanation could be something very simple and self evident.
 
S.A.M. said:
I have no opinion on OOB experiences. I'm merely exploring the possibility that the explanation could be something very simple and self evident.
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It is. Delusion. Very simple and quite evident.
 
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