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Putin did not threaten anyone with nuclear weapons. Meanwhile USA didn't just threaten, but used nuclear weapons on civilians. You, elte, are part of a country that uses propaganda to cover up for slaughtering of millions of people across the world in the name of democracy, freedom, WMD, anything that comes to mind.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember forever.
See behind CNN lies.
If Russia is going to complain about another country killing people, they should probably take their finger off the trigger long enough so people can hear them.
If USA is going to complain about Russia using its army in another country, they should probably stop financing the Ukraine's army and sending CIA officials to Ukraine, so that their lies would be more believable.
elte
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Putin did not threaten anyone with nuclear weapons. Meanwhile USA didn't just threaten, but used nuclear weapons on civilians. You, elte, are part of a country that uses propaganda to cover up for slaughtering of millions of people across the world in the name of democracy, freedom, WMD, anything that comes to mind.
I don't accept two wrongs make a right. What the US does or doesn't do can't justify what Putin is doing. Besides, I voted for Obama who offered an olive branch to Putin long ago.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, remember forever.
See behind CNN lies.
I don't accept two wrongs make a right. What the US does or doesn't do can't justify what Putin is doing. Besides, I voted for Obama who offered an olive branch to Putin long ago.
WW2 was a nasty, ruthless war. You can't legitimately bring that up.
When Russia kills US citizens (or even supplies the weapons to do so) they lose the moral high ground. Putin will reap what he has sown.
What I can bring up however is WMD's in Iraq. Or that was also a nasty ruthless war? An ongoing one, thanks to ISIS.
Obama, did everything to destroy the fragile peace in this world. To make things even worth, his presidency was marked by the worse effects on longterm humanity goals. Never had NASA had to endure so much pain and wait in agony while the budget was approved for world top ace space agency. Obama, is a disgrace to a nation that put a man on the moon.
When you stop fantasizing about the what if scenarios and turn off CNN, and go fight for the truth you claim to know...that is when you will get it.
Putin has so far maintained peace and control of fragile world US has sought to destroy in numerous countries. Financing terrorists in Syria is the least of the US sins.
I don't get CNN.
But OK - let's stop with "what-if" scenarios and go with history. The US kicked the USSR's ass 30 years ago, by doing nothing more than flourishing while a warmongering, corrupt and irrational Soviet government destroyed its own economy. We can do the same again. No matter how many countries Putin invades, and no matter how many people he kills, that won't change the outcome. In fact, history demonstrates it will just hasten it.
elte
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Not much use bringing up Iraq with me. I was against that war all along. Obama is very progressive. That he let commercial industry begin to work with the space program is a policy that can be supported by reasonable argument.
Crimea was Russian land, just because some retard politician gave it away to Ukraine 50 years ago, does not mean it belongs to Ukraine forever.
True USSR experience not the best economical situation in its history, but coming from the country I can tell you that people of USSR led far more happier and fullfilling jobs enjoying free healthcare, quality food (not GMO crap US sells), cheap transportation, and stability (people would hold jobs for 40 years without fearing loss), and family rights. Not everything in this world is about money, in fact the best things in life, money can't buy (a quote that was stolen by AmericanExpress US company).
SpaceX owns itself to its creator mr. Musk, not Obama. And Scaled Composites flourished before Obama. So where's the argument now?
that's a lie.putin just threatened nato with nukes. and threatened poland with them a few years ago.
elte
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Elon Musk and SpaceX are quite okay. Obama lives in the world that exists. I'm sure if he had a magic wand, our world would be successfully socialist.
actually it does. when the USSR ceded it they lost all claim to it. the fact it was a russian conquest earlier is irrelevant. crimean is tartar land
well than USA is Indian tribes land. so maybe the colonists with all their New English rights should GT**. How is that. Oh and Poland was part of Prussia too...if you want to go there.
Well, by that measure, just because Kamchatka currently belongs to Russia, doesn't mean it will belong to them forever, either.
"The line for shoes is over there, Comrade. This is the line for bread."
Well, by that measure, just because Russia sold Alaska to US, does not mean it belongs to US forever. Time to give it back)
you want nice sounding quotes or pictures that speak for themselves? )))
here, i make a nice sounding line for you:
"The line for soup is over there, Stockbroker. This is the line for those who will get their soup tomorrow.
Well, by that measure, just because Russia sold Alaska to US, does not mean it belongs to US forever. Time to give it back)
you want nice sounding quotes or pictures that speak for themselves? )))
here, i make a nice sounding line for you:
"The line for soup is over there, Stockbroker. This is the line for those who will get their soup tomorrow.
LOL you are a riot, I don't know how anyone can take you seriously.