Masturbation is for Losers
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SnakeLord said:
The same way I can tell you that Bill Gates is a wanker. Because I believe the evidence of my own two eyes. Look at this.
Believe your own two eyes. Do both men tilt their head the same way? Do both men have a fat right side of the face and a thin appearing left side of the face? Do both men have a larger right eye and a smaller left eye?
If you would stop giving me grief and work with me, we could finish this in days. I know exactly what I am talking about and I can bury you in photographic evidence of people showing the symptoms. The only thing you can disagree about is the cause of the symptoms.
Why not work on one thing at a time? Convince yourself that I do see the symptoms I say I do. Just like in that photo above. Since you really do seem to be a doctor, I am telling you that if you can get some of your buddies to take my theory and write it up so all the science lemmings will accept it, we can be rich and famous.
http://skepdic.com/personology.html
http://skepdic.com/metoposc.html
In the 18th and 19th centuries, physiognomy was used by some of its proponents as a method of detecting criminal tendencies. Many bigots and racists still use physiognomy to judge character and personality.
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the nazi's of the third reich also used "happeh's theory" to persecute untold numbers of innocent people
http://skepdic.com/metoposc.html
In the 18th and 19th centuries, physiognomy was used by some of its proponents as a method of detecting criminal tendencies. Many bigots and racists still use physiognomy to judge character and personality.
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the nazi's of the third reich also used "happeh's theory" to persecute untold numbers of innocent people
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Ophiolite
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Would this be connected with the fact that 90% of people masturbate and the other 10% are liars?Happeh said:
Have you seen photographs of Bill Gates when he doesn't tilt his head?
Did you know that practically everybody tilts their head from time to time?
Did you know that the left side of the body is almost never a mirror image of the right side of the body?
Now some unrelated questions, I suspect you wont answer, but whose answers would interest me.
When did this theory first occur to you?
Approximately how old are you (to the closest ten years will do)?
How much did it cost you to get the vanity publisher to handle your book?
How many have you sold?
What really is your educational level?
There's no discredit at being honest jack ass!.
Leopold I specially like this from the link:
** They not only ignore all the data from the neurosciences that contradict their beliefs, they do not systematically attempt to test them in ways that might prove them false.**
Read the above slaphappy. Your pseudo scientific bull shit is nothing more than delusions of your warped sense of reality.
Happeh you comfirm your stupidity with each and every post. Keep up the good work!
Godless
I've been reading this thread and trying to keep up.
It seems happeh that you refer to science yet are using concepts and supposed examples which arent scientific at all, the liquid filled cell, the egg is your eye, the tilted head, etc.
Saying that you have to talk to people here patronisingly just isn't true.
Seriously, please explain in the most detailed anatomical/physiological way you can, how masturbation causes blindness, weakness, or homosexuality.
Here is a question I have,
If masturbation causes all of these health problems, does vaginal intercourse also cause all these health problems?
If not, how does the penis know the difference between the hand and the vagina?
Most people would argue their penis gets a lot more sore from excessive sex than from excessive masturbation.
I would also like to hear of any education you might have, or any you plan to do in the future. It seems you have a lot of theories which with time and proper process, could be studied.
For example, you could choose a random sample of 100 or more people aged 20+.
You could then give them a questionaire, asking them how often they masturbate per week/month over the years, and divide them mathematically into groups.
You could also ask a questions about eyesight, whether they have ever been diagnosed with an eyesight condition, what their sexuality is, how physically active they are.
You could then run a series of relatively simple statistical test to find out if there is a RELATIONSHIP between masturbation and any of these factors.
(Hmm I wonder if Kinsey's research would show anything on this topic?)
Of course if you don't have the time or will to do that, or even find any research like that, you could always read this page:
http://www.coolnurse.com/masturbation.htm
It seems happeh that you refer to science yet are using concepts and supposed examples which arent scientific at all, the liquid filled cell, the egg is your eye, the tilted head, etc.
Saying that you have to talk to people here patronisingly just isn't true.
Seriously, please explain in the most detailed anatomical/physiological way you can, how masturbation causes blindness, weakness, or homosexuality.
Here is a question I have,
If masturbation causes all of these health problems, does vaginal intercourse also cause all these health problems?
If not, how does the penis know the difference between the hand and the vagina?
Most people would argue their penis gets a lot more sore from excessive sex than from excessive masturbation.
I would also like to hear of any education you might have, or any you plan to do in the future. It seems you have a lot of theories which with time and proper process, could be studied.
For example, you could choose a random sample of 100 or more people aged 20+.
You could then give them a questionaire, asking them how often they masturbate per week/month over the years, and divide them mathematically into groups.
You could also ask a questions about eyesight, whether they have ever been diagnosed with an eyesight condition, what their sexuality is, how physically active they are.
You could then run a series of relatively simple statistical test to find out if there is a RELATIONSHIP between masturbation and any of these factors.
(Hmm I wonder if Kinsey's research would show anything on this topic?)
Of course if you don't have the time or will to do that, or even find any research like that, you could always read this page:
http://www.coolnurse.com/masturbation.htm
Ophiolite said:
Yes. I collect photos in case you haven't noticed. I have plainly said I have been at this for 5 years at least. Would you care to see some of my other Bill Gates photos? Or would you rather tell us all how you are an expert on the human body and I am clueless?
Ophiolite said:
Yes.
Ophiolite said:
I will answer any question that is reasonable.
Ophiolite said:
About 5 years ago. Maybe 10. It all gets kind of hazy.
Ophiolite said:
You are looking for something to hit me with. If I don't meet your age criteria, I will be a boy making things up is I think how Snakelord put it.
Ophiolite said:
Q says it is against the rules to talk about that.
Ophiolite said:
You want more ammunition to hit me with. The question has no bearing on the subject at hand.
Godless said:
Moving on from "idiot" huh?
Godless said:Read the above slaphappy. Your pseudo scientific bull shit is nothing more than delusions of your warped sense of reality.
Happeh you comfirm your stupidity with each and every post. Keep up the good work!
Godless
You do love the chance to post denigrating adjectives and nothing else.
Huwy said:
It is true. I started about 15 pages ago with a theory. I said I had evidence. By that I meant visual evidence of symptoms with my conclusion as to the cause. I expected scientists to inspect the photos and verify they see the same symptoms. Then I expected scientists to provide reasonable causes for what they saw. Then I was going to try to get them to understand why I was correct and they were not.
15 pages later, I have had about 5 or 10 replies that directly address the pictures I have posted. Most other posts are personal attacks on me, or demands for evidence. I clearly, on multiple occasions, said I am the originator of the theory. There are no other scientists saying what I do, there is no study backing me up. People keep right on demanding scientists and studies, page after page after page.
When I make a point, say I tell them "you are a psychologist or a chemist or an administrator. You are not trained about the body. That is why we have different opinions". Instead of admitting this is true and they are not trained in the area of the human body, they keep insisting they know more than I do.
I am left with no alternative but to conclude I am dealing with stubborn people, people playing dominanace/submission games, people with no imagination, or people who were graduated with a science degree because they paid for it, not because they possess the abilites of scientific observation and deduction.
If all of that is true, for me, the only alternative is childspeak. If I speak in a patronizing and childish way, maybe they will not feel threatened by my confidence and my certainty and they will talk to me.
Huwy said:
You will not understand. You are not arms and legs and torso and head. You are a bowl of spaghetti. By that I mean fibers. You can view your body as being composed of fibers. This fibers connect all over the body. The toes connect to the stomach. The fingers connect to the head. Your entire body is interconnected by all of these fibers.
If these fibers are damaged anywhere along their length, the entire fiber suffers. Sort of like a high tension cable for a bridge. The entire cable must meet specs to hold up the bridge. If a person were to go to a one inch section of the cable and cut it with a saw, the entire cable is now worthless. The entire cable does not meet specs.
If a fiber is damaged at the penis, the entire fiber, all the way up to the eye is also damaged. That is one way to describe how actions on the penis affect other areas of the body that are physically far removed from the penis
Huwy said:
Yes. Excessive sex will cause the same effects in both men and women.
Huwy said:
2 things. The vagina is circular and completely encloses the penis to exert relatively equal pressure around the entire circumference of the penis. The hand will usually only enclose part of the penis. It also applies uneven pressure because the fingers all possess different strengths.
When you masturbate, where is the force on the penis coming from? It comes from you. During sex, where is the force on the penis coming from? The woman.
Huwy said:
Soreness has nothing to do with the symptoms predicted by Happeh Theory.
Huwy said:
They could all be studied very easily. If someone gave me the money and labs, I could set it up tomorrow.
Asking questions about me personally is digging for some way to devalue or disregard my words. I am nobody. I have no status. If you saw me you would not respect me. I did all that on purpose. I want certain people to see that it is possible to learn from anyone. I believe those people need to be broken from their dependence on people in suits to tell them what to think. I am hoping that when they see a nobody that everybody points and laughs at can produce a theory that would change the life of most people on the planet, they will gain the confidence to think on their own. I hope they will think "If that loser can think on his own, I know I can".
Huwy said:
I appreciate your suggestions. I do not need to be convinced. What you are really saying is if I produced a study like this, you would beleive me. Not because you believe me, not because I changed in any way or my words changed in any way. Just because I have this study I wrote up in a few minutes and forged a bunch of scientists names to.
I do not know if you know about people or psychology etc. It is very hard to do a study like you have described. I think all of you forget we are dealing with people. People lie. They do it on purpose, they do it to please, they do it out of embarrassment.
If you were to spend time in the medical field, you will find it is common for patients to tell doctors what the patient thinks the doctor wants to hear. This spoils any real science experiment. People are not chemicals in a test tube that never change. If a patient thinks the doctor wants them to say something, they will, even if it is false.
That is why I disregard these suggestions about studies. If it was possible to perform, you cannot really trust the results because people will lie. That is why I say my faith is the only proof I need. I am the only person I can trust not to lie. If you speak to people in the medical field, they might say the same thing. That they trust no one but themselves because patients lie to please the doctor.
They might not because they have an image to protect. Tell patients you think they are liars and see how many come back. See what I mean about lying? Everyone lies. Even doctors.
About your link. I have 3 opinions.
There are people who have accepted all the lies about masturbation. These people feel they are doing good by going out and spreading the lies. That is because they do not realize they are spreading lies. Western doctors in my opinion do not have a proper view of the body. They really should not be fixing people. Most doctors are good hearted and want to do good. They do not realize their knowledge is incomplete or flawed. That link could be good hearted people doing what they think is right. They may not know the information is incomplete or wrong.
There are people who purposefully promote these lies in order to make people sick and weak. This is done so that these weak people can be used as slaves. The weak never challenge the strong for authority, money, power, or women. That website could be one of their operations.
I feel masturbation occasionally is not a big deal. It is OK to masturbate in moderation. Masturbation period will have an effect on your body. But let's face it, people do bad stuff to themselves all the time as part of life. Smoking, drinking etc. If they masturbate once in awhile, the design specifications of the human body are such that the person can still function even with some masturbation effects to their body.
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I mailed that website telling them they are wrong and they are encouraging thousands of people to become sick in their old age.
There are people who have accepted all the lies about masturbation. These people feel they are doing good by going out and spreading the lies. That is because they do not realize they are spreading lies. Western doctors in my opinion do not have a proper view of the body. They really should not be fixing people. Most doctors are good hearted and want to do good. They do not realize their knowledge is incomplete or flawed. That link could be good hearted people doing what they think is right. They may not know the information is incomplete or wrong.
There are people who purposefully promote these lies in order to make people sick and weak. This is done so that these weak people can be used as slaves. The weak never challenge the strong for authority, money, power, or women. That website could be one of their operations.
I feel masturbation occasionally is not a big deal. It is OK to masturbate in moderation. Masturbation period will have an effect on your body. But let's face it, people do bad stuff to themselves all the time as part of life. Smoking, drinking etc. If they masturbate once in awhile, the design specifications of the human body are such that the person can still function even with some masturbation effects to their body.
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I mailed that website telling them they are wrong and they are encouraging thousands of people to become sick in their old age.
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Even after 20+ pages you still fail to acknowledge that a photograph of a person is 'proof' of nothing in this instance. As I have already told you, it doesn't matter how many photos you have or who those photos are of.
Every human does. Are you claiming that everyone on the planet is a mass-wanker? The angles differ slightly because the men are looking in different directions. As we can see from the Gates photo, he is busy talking to an audience. If someone on his right has asked him a question, and he's responding to the person, then he has no choice but to turn his head in the manner that is seen on the photograph.
The other man is leaning backwards and looking at something or someone to his upper left. Given the angle of viewing, it would be impossible for him not to tilt his head in such manner. You must assume that people are these weird sort of robots that never angle their heads to see things to their sides, but instead turn round rigidly, with head and neck always straight. Spend 5 minutes with some humans and you'll realise you have no case here.
Do you know anything about gravity? If you lean your head to one side, the cheeks will undoubtedly head downwards. Once this happens it will appear that one cheek, (the one not being stopped by your jaw), looks 'fatter' than the other cheek. You also have to take into account the angle at which the photograph is taken.
No. The Gates picture is a very poor quality video capture and the second man is simply doing what is quite natural when you look in the same way that he is, (especially when pulling that kind of face).
If you started to understand the simple basics of life, we could finish this in seconds.
Clearly you do not.
But for the 50 gazillionth time I have already told you how worthless a photo is in this instance. You have already agreed with that statement, so if you have anything other than a photograph then please provide it.
No Happeh, we'd be sitting in a padded room.
Ophiolite
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I felt it was right, at this time, to offer Happeh a brief moment of support. It is clear that he is troubled by one possibility above all others.
Happeh. I just wanted to set your mind at ease on this. Nobody will ever steal your theory. It is quite safe with you. I can assure you, that even under the duress of severe physical torture I for one will deny any association with your theory. It is safe with you.Happeh said:
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